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Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« on: January 20, 2008, 11:39:39 AM »

      Was going to swap stems between the VT750C and my 77' CB550K, to use the VT's forks on my 550. Then, I got to wondering, that since I'm going to pull the sidecar on of the 80' CB750 and put it on the 77'CB750A,the VT's forks just might bolt right on the 80' 750 without modification. What I like about the VT's forks are: Built-in fork brace, 39mm tubes, dual calipers and air assist on the tubes. Anyone know about this? ???

                                      Later on,Bill :) ;)

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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 06:45:08 AM »
Bill, I just swapped an 85 vf700f with a78 cb750. I know this is not a direct answer to your question, BUT pressing the stems out was not too much trouble and made bolting up the donor front end fairly easy. as far as sizes I am not much help but the two I did were the same diameters just different lengths.
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 01:18:24 PM »
Quote from: 71cb750 on January 21, 2008, 06:45:08 AM
Bill, I just swapped an 85 vf700f with a78 cb750. I know this is not a direct answer to your question, BUT pressing the stems out was not too much trouble and made bolting up the donor front end fairly easy. as far as sizes I am not much help but the two I did were the same diameters just different lengths.

        Appreciate your reply. ;) I figure that it should be the same size, like you said. That was the same as the 550 also. The VT's stem was a bit longer than the 550's but I thought that the 80' CB750 might accidentally be the same length. I just hate to pull the forks off of the CB750 just to find out. If there's anybody who knows the length of the stem of the 80' CB750K triple tree, I could then compare that to the VT750C stem length.

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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2008, 04:28:40 AM »
ok..from what i read of that statement...the CB550 and the CB750 have the same diameter stems?
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 05:00:13 AM »
Quote from: OutlawZ24 on January 22, 2008, 04:28:40 AM
ok..from what i read of that statement...the CB550 and the CB750 have the same diameter stems?

       I believe a good number of them are the same diameter, the length is where it is different a lot of times. I can't seem to get the list of fork tubes and bearing sizes on ohiocaferacers.com lately so I can get some info off of that.

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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 05:31:26 AM »
Please do bill...Because as has been pointed out the CB750 and the VF750 have the same size stems...I may look more into the idea of doing a VF front fork swap to reaper yet..Had i known this when i still had the K4 i would have gladly done a VF fork swap then...air forks..dual disks..anti dive? hell yea! Means im either getting a new swing arm fabbed up or im modding the VF swing arm to fit the 550 chassis..eh..machine work either way lol..
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 06:20:04 AM »
z24, the diameters are the same. the lengths are different. the vf is about an inch longer
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 06:34:50 AM »
Quote from: 71cb750 on January 22, 2008, 06:20:04 AM
z24, the diameters are the same. the lengths are different. the vf is about an inch longer
The Diameters are the same between the VF and the CB750...but what about the CB750 and the CB550 anyone know?
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 07:12:41 AM »
Quote from: OutlawZ24 on January 22, 2008, 06:34:50 AM
Quote from: 71cb750 on January 22, 2008, 06:20:04 AM
z24, the diameters are the same. the lengths are different. the vf is about an inch longer
The Diameters are the same between the VF and the CB750...but what about the CB750 and the CB550 anyone know?

           I think the diameter's the same on about everything from the CB450DOHC (maybe even the CB/CL/SL 350s also) to include the 500, 550 & 750 (& maybe the CB900 & CB1000?). Maybe others, not sure. Can anyone get on the ohiocaferacers.com site and get the list to come up? The bearing sizes are listed there and would tell the stem diameter but not the length of the stem.

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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 07:24:56 AM »
Both the CB550 and the CB750 are grouped in the section of the chart marked

Upper 26x48.5x15.2
lower 30x50x14.4...

So with that said..I should theoretically be able to take the VF triple and the CB550 triple and simply swap stems and be able to use the VF forks on the CB550. So i guess i just gotta look into swaping the rear swing arm now as well..

Bill you have a pm in your box either way not linked to this incase the pm notifications arent working lol. Sorry for the Hijack

Unfortunitly going by that chart...No your VT forks will not work on your 750 bill....The VT is in the same listing as the CB550 CB750 K and VF750. So you could use them for your original plan of using them on one of your CB550s. Which twin was it you were thinking of using the VT forks on before bill?
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 07:56:43 AM »


         Thanks for the input Chris. I was going to use the VT front end for the 77' CB550K and then was thinking about the 80' CB750K, if it would work. Kind of puzzling as to why the VT would work on the 550 & 750 and not on the 80' 750 though. The 77' CB750A and the maligned 79' CB750K that I had picked up from my Dad, had had their forks swapped by my Dad. And they seemed to fit okay. Unless the 750A forks are different from the other SOHC750s and that doesn't seem likely (to me, anyway). What were the numbers for the 80' CB750K and the 83' VT750Cs? could be that the outside measurement was different and THAT wouldn't keep me from using the VT forks. I could just use the 80' CB750s bearings. Get what I'm saying?

           Yeah, I got your PM, didn't have time to respond right then. Already taken care of by now though. :)

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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 08:02:58 AM »
The 83 VT750 C is exactly the same as the CB550 and the 78 and older CB750s. Hence why i said you could use them on your 550 with a stem swap if needed. The 1980 CB750 is....Upper 26x47x15 and lower 30x55x17
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008, 08:06:47 AM »
However on the flipside you could always use the forks off of a CBR 600 Hurricane if you wanted bill lol..
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2008, 08:22:49 AM »
Quote from: OutlawZ24 on January 22, 2008, 07:24:56 AM
Both the CB550 and the CB750 are grouped in the section of the chart marked

Upper 26x48.5x15.2
lower 30x50x14.4...

Unfortunitly going by that chart...No your VT forks will not work on your 750 bill....The VT is in the same listing as the CB550 CB750 K and VF750. So you could use them for your original plan of using them on one of your CB550s. Which twin was it you were thinking of using the VT forks on before bill?

Quote from: OutlawZ24 on January 22, 2008, 08:02:58 AM
The 83 VT750 C is exactly the same as the CB550 and the 78 and older CB750s. Hence why i said you could use them on your 550 with a stem swap if needed. The 1980 CB750 is....Upper 26x47x15 and lower 30x55x17

            Okay, what I need to know is, in the case of the numbers:

                     26x47x15, what are the numbers representing? By that I mean 26 indicates what? 47 indicates what? And 15 indicates what? If 26 is the inside diameter of the upper bearing race and if 30 is the inside diameter of the lower bearing race, then I have no problem. I'd be able to use the VT front end on the 80' CB750K and only have to deal with the stem length issue. Do you see what I'm saying? It mainly means that I need to know what each of those numbers (??X??x??) represent.

                             Later on, Bill :) ;)
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2008, 08:30:49 AM »
Logically the 26 would be the inner dia the 47 would be the outer dameter and the 15 would be the total height of the bearing

Thats how im reading it anyways..

So you may have to work with a bearing provider to mix and match some bearings like Fun Jimmy did on his CB550 to swap on his R6 front end.
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2008, 08:54:31 AM »
Truth be told I originally complied the list of bearing sizes and fork diameters that is on the Ohio Cafe Racer site. I have it in excel if that is of use to anyone.




   Japanese Bike Steering Stem Bearing Sizes
   Helpful info when trying to decide if one front end will swap to another. One word of caution. Even though to models may use the same bearings it does not always mean a swap can be made. Steering stem length is also something to keep in mind. For example, the CB750 and CB450 use the same bearing but the CB450 stem is about 1" shorter.

   
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Suzuki   GS1000LN/SN/ST (79-80), GS1000SZ (82), GS1000T/HT/ ET (80)
Suzuki   GS1100E (80-83), GS1100G/GL(82-83), GS1100GK (82-84), GS1100LT (80), GS1100SD (83)
Suzuki   GSX1100E/ES/EF, GSX1100E T/X (80-81)
Suzuki   GSX1100EE/ESF/EFF/EF/ESF/EFF (84), GSX1100F (90-93)
Suzuki   GSX1100FJ-FP (88-93), GSX1100G M/N/P/R (91-94)
Suzuki   GSX1100LT/ST (80), GSX1100 LN/SN (79), GSX1100S Z/D (82-83)
Suzuki   GSXR1100 (90-93), GSXR1100F (88-92), GSXR1100G-M (86-91), GSXR1100WP/WR/ WS/WT/WV (93-98)
Suzuki   GS1150EF/EG (85-86), GS1150ES3/ESE/ ESF (83-85)
Suzuki   GSX1150E (83-86)
Suzuki   GSF1200SV/SAV (97-01)
Suzuki   GV1200GLF/GLG (85-86)
Suzuki   GV1400G (86-89)
Suzuki   VS1400 (87-01)
Suzuki   VS1400GL H/R (87-01)
Suzuki   VL1500 (98-01)
Yamaha   BW80S/T/U/A (86-90)
Yamaha   YZ100J/K (82-83)
Yamaha   YZ125D-S (77-86)
Yamaha   IT175D-K (77-83)
Yamaha   IT200L/N/S (84-86)
Yamaha   IT250D/E/F/G/H/J/K (77-83)
Yamaha   TZ250F/G/H/J (79-82)
Yamaha   TZR250R
Yamaha   XT250L/LC (84)
Yamaha   YZ250D-T (77-87)
Yamaha   TT350S/T (86-87)
Yamaha   XT350N/NC-K/KC (85-98)
Yamaha   IT400D/E/F (77-79),
Yamaha   FZR400 (88-90)
Yamaha   YZ400D/E/F (77-79)
Yamaha   IT425G (80)
Yamaha   IT465H/J (81-82), YZ465G/H (80-81)
Yamaha   IT490K/L (83-84), YZ490J-A (82-90)
Yamaha   RZ500N (85)
Yamaha   XT550J/K (82-83)
Yamaha   FZR600 (89-99)
Yamaha   TT600L/N/S/T/U (83-88)
Yamaha   XT600L/LC-G/GC (84-95)
Yamaha   YZF600 (95-00)
Yamaha   XV650 (98-01)
Yamaha   FZ700T/TC (87), FZX700S/T/TC (86-87)
Yamaha   XJ700N/NC/S/SC/XN/XS/XSC (85-86)
Yamaha   XV700 Virago (84-87)
Yamaha   FZ750N/S/SC (85-86), FZ750U/UC (88)
Yamaha   FZR750RT/RU (87-88), FZR750R (90), FZX750 (87-89)
Yamaha   XS750 ALL (77-79)
Yamaha   XTZ750 (93)
Yamaha   XV750 Virago (88-97)
Yamaha   YZF750 (94-98)
Yamaha   XS850 ALL (80-81)
Yamaha   TDM850 (92-93)
Yamaha   XJ900RK (83), XJ900FN (85)
Yamaha   FZR1000 (87-91), FZR1000 EXUP (83-95)
Yamaha   XV1000 Virago (84-85)
Yamaha   FJ1100 (84-85)
Yamaha   XJ1100J (82)
Yamaha   XS1100ALL (78-81)
Yamaha   XV1100 Virago (86-97)
Yamaha   FJ1200 (86-91)
Yamaha   VMX1200 V-Max (85-97)
Yamaha   XVZ1200 Venture (83-85)
Yamaha   XVZ1300 Venture (86-93)
Yamaha   XVZ13 Royal Star
   Upper: 25 x 48 x 16
   Lower: 27 x 48 x 14   
Suzuki   RM125A/B/C (75-78)
Suzuki   PE175C/N (78-79)
Suzuki   GS250FW (85)
Suzuki   GSX250T/ET (80)
Suzuki   GT250A/B (76-77)
Suzuki   PE250C/N (78-79)
Suzuki   RM250A/B/C/C2
Suzuki   TM250K/L/M (73-75)
Suzuki   TS250 (70-79)
Suzuki   GS300LF/LZ/LD (82-85)
Suzuki   RM370A/B/C (76-77)
Suzuki   SP370 (78-79)
Suzuki   GT380K-B (73-77)
Suzuki   GS400B/C/EC (77-78)
Suzuki   RM400C (78)
Suzuki   SP400T (80)
Suzuki   TM/TS400 (73-77)
Suzuki   GS425N/EN (79)
Suzuki   GT500A/B (76-77)
Suzuki   RE-Rotary (75-76)
Suzuki   GS550B/C/EC (77-79)
Suzuki   GT550J-B (72-75)
Suzuki   GS750B/C/EC/N (77-79), GS750D C/N (78-79), GS750EN/ LN/LT (79-80)
Suzuki   GT750 (72-77)
   Upper: 25 x 48 x 13 
   Lower: 30 x 48 x 13     
Suzuki   RM100N/T/X (79-81)
Suzuki   RM125N/T (79-80)
Suzuki   RM250N/T (79-80)
Suzuki   RM400N/T (79-80)
Yamaha   L5T/L5TA-100 (69-70)
Yamaha   RD125B/C (75-76)
Yamaha   RD125LC
Yamaha   TA125 (Roadrace)
Yamaha   TD2/TD2B125 (70-71)
Yamaha   TR2/TR2B125 (70-71)
Yamaha   TZ125G (Roadrace) (80)
Yamaha   YB125E/F
Yamaha   RD200A/B/C (74-76)
Yamaha   YTM200N/ERN (84)
Yamaha   YTM225DRN/DRS (85-86)
Yamaha   YTM225DXL/DXN (84-85)
Yamaha   FZR250
Yamaha   RD250 /LC (73-82)
Yamaha   RD250YPVS (83-84)
Yamaha   SR250G/H/J/TH (80-82)
Yamaha   SRX250N (85), SRX250T/TC (87)
Yamaha   TD3/TR3-250 (Roadrace) (72)
Yamaha   TZ250 (73), TZ250C/D/E (76-78)
Yamaha   TZR250 (87-91)
Yamaha   XS250
Yamaha   XV250U-W (88-89), XV250A/AC (90), XV250G/GC/H/HC/J/JC (95-99)
Yamaha   R5/B/C (70-72),RD350 (73-79), RD350LC (80-82)
Yamaha   RD350YPVS (83-84), RZ350L/N/NC (84-85)
Yamaha   TZ350C/D/E (74-78)
Yamaha   XS360C/D/2D (76-77)
Yamaha   RD400A/B/C/D (76-79)
Yamaha   XJ400 (80-85)
Yamaha   XS400E/F/2E/2F (77-79), XS400G/H/J/K (80-83), XS400RJ/RK (82-83), XS400SG/SH (80-82)
Yamaha   XV500 (83) XV535 (87-99)
Yamaha   XV535 (91-94), XV535H/N (89-90), XV535SE (88), XV535T/TC/U/A/ AC/EC/F/FC/G/GC/ SFC/SG/SGC/SH/SHC/SJ/SJC (87-97)
Yamaha   XJ550H/J/K/RH/RJ/RK (81-83)
Yamaha   FJ600L/LC/N/NC (84-85)
Yamaha   XJ600 (92-98)
Yamaha   YX600 (86-90)
   Upper: 25 x 43 x 11 
   Lower: 30 x 48 x 12     
Yamaha   DT50B, DT50MX, DT50U/W/A (88-90)
Yamaha   RD50MX (82), RX50K/L/MK (83-84)
Yamaha   YSR50T-E (87-93)
Yamaha   YZ50G (80)
Yamaha   JT1/JT2/JT2MX (71-72)
Yamaha   RD60/A/B (73-75)
Yamaha   YZ60H/J/KM (81-83)
Yamaha   DT80LC H/J/K (81-83), DT80MX
Yamaha   GT80A-G (74-80), GT1/GTMX80 (73), GTMXA/MXB/MXC 80 (77-79), MX80G/H/J (80-82)
Yamaha   RD80LC/MX(82)
Yamaha   TY80A/B Trials (74-75)
Yamaha   YZ80A-K (74-83)
Yamaha   HT1/HT1B/HT1BM90 (70-71)
Yamaha   AG100B
Yamaha   DT100A-K (74-83)
Yamaha   LT2/LT2M/LT2MX/LT3100 (72-73)
Yamaha   MX100A/B (74-75)
Yamaha   MX100F/H/J/K (79-83)
Yamaha   RS100B/C (75-76)
Yamaha   RT100A (90)
Yamaha   YZ100C/D/E/F/G/H (76-81)
Yamaha   AT1/AT1B/AT1C/ AT1E/AT1M/AT1MBAT1MX/AT2/AT2M/AT2MX/AT3/ 125 All (69-73)
Yamaha   DT125 All (74-81), DT125LC (82)
Yamaha   IT125G/H (80-81)
Yamaha   MX125A/B/C (74-76)
Yamaha   XT125J/K/KC (82-83)
Yamaha   YT125N (85)
Yamaha   YZ125A/B/C/X (74-76)
Yamaha   AG175B
Yamaha   CT1/CT2/CT3 175 All (69-73)
Yamaha   DT175A-H (74-81)
Yamaha   MX175A/B (74-75)
Yamaha   MX175G/H/J (79-81)
Yamaha   TY175B/C (75-76)
Yamaha   YT175J/K Atv(82-83)
Yamaha   YZ175C (76)
Yamaha   SR185H/J (81-82)
Yamaha   AG200
Yamaha   BW200N/S/ES/ET/ EU (85-88)
Yamaha   TW200 (87-92)
Yamaha   TYM200EX/EL (83-84)
Yamaha   XT200J/K/KC (82-83)
Yamaha   YTM200K/EK (83), YTM200K/L (83-84)
Yamaha   YTM225DXK (83)
Yamaha   DT1/DT1B/DT1CMX/DT1MX/DT1S/ DT1C/DT1E/DT2/ DT2MX/DT250A-F/DT3 250 (68-79)
Yamaha   MX250A/B (73-75)
Yamaha   TT/XT250G/H/J (80-82)
Yamaha   TY250A/C/D (74-77)
Yamaha   XT250G/H/J/K/KC (80-83)
Yamaha   XT250W (89)
Yamaha   YZ250A/B/C (74-87)
Yamaha   DT360A/B (74-75),
Yamaha   MX360/A (73-74)
Yamaha   RT1/RT1B/RTM/RT1MX360 (70-71)
Yamaha   RT2/RT3/RT2MX360 (72-73)
Yamaha   YZ360A/B (74-75)
Yamaha   DT400B/C/D/E (75-78)
Yamaha   IT400C (76)
Yamaha   MX400B/C (75-76)
Yamaha   YZ400B/C (75-76)
Yamaha   SC500/A (73-74)
Yamaha   SR500E/F/G/H (78-81)
Yamaha   TT/XT500C-H (76-81)
   Upper: 25 x 47 x 15   
   Lower: 28 x 52 x 16.5 
Kawasaki   KL250D2-D8 (85-91), KLR250 (-98)
Kawasaki   ZX400K1/K2/K3
Kawasaki   EN450A1-A7 (85-91), EN450N
Kawasaki   EN500A1-A6 (90-96), EN500C1/C2 Vulcan Ltd (96-97)
Kawasaki   GPZ550H1
Kawasaki   KZ550F1/F2/M1 (83-84), KZ550H1/H2 (82-83)
Kawasaki   Z550G6, Z550M1 Ltd (83)
Kawasaki   ZR550B1-B5 (90-94)
Kawasaki   ZX550A1/A2 (84-85)
Kawasaki   GPX600R
Kawasaki   KL600A1/B1/B3 (84-86)
Kawasaki   ZX600 Ninja (85-97)
Kawasaki   KLR650/B2 Tengai (89)
Kawasaki   KL650A1-A11/B2/ KLR (87-97)
Kawasaki   KZ700A1 (84)
Kawasaki   ZN700A1/A2 (84-85)
Kawasaki   GP750R, GPZ750R/R1
Kawasaki   KZ750F1, KZ750L3 (83)
Kawasaki   KZ750N1/N2 (82-83), KZ750R1 (82)
Kawasaki   VN750A2 (86)
Kawasaki   ZR750C1-C4 (91-94), ZR750 Zephyr
Kawasaki   ZX750A1-A3/E1/E2/ F1-F4/H1/H2
Kawasaki   GPZ900R
Kawasaki   ZL900A1/A2 (85-86)
Kawasaki   ZX900A1-A3 (84-86)
Kawasaki   KZ1000J1-J3/K1/K2/ M1/M2 (81-82), KZ1000P1-P17 (82-98), KZ1000R1/R2 (82-83)
Kawasaki   Z1000K1 LTD (82)
Kawasaki   ZG1000A1-A9 (86-94)
Kawasaki   ZL1000A1 (87)
Kawasaki   ZX1000A1/A2 (86-87), ZX1000B1-B3 (88-90)
Kawasaki   GPZ1100A/S, B/S (81-82)
Kawasaki   KZ1100A1-A3 (81-83), KZ1100B1/B2 (81-82), KZ1100D1/D2 (82-83), KZ1100L1 (83)
Kawasaki   Z1100J/J2/Z
Kawasaki   ZN1100B1/B2 (84-85)
Kawasaki   ZR1100A1/A2 (92-93)
Kawasaki   ZX1100A1-A2 (83-84)
Kawasaki   VN15SE
Kawasaki   VN1500A1-A9 (87-95)
Kawasaki   VN1500B1-B5 (87-91)
Kawasaki   VN1500A10/A11/C3/C4/D1/D2 (96-97)
   Upper: 26 x 48.5 x 15.2   
   Lower: 30 x 50 x 14.4   
Honda   C250N (79)
Honda   CB250 (Early Models)
Honda   CB250RS (80-84)
Honda   CBX250RS
Honda   CM250T Rebel (82-84)
Honda   GB250F/F2
Honda   MVX250 (83-84)
Honda   VT250F (83-86), VTR250 (88)
Honda   CB350F/F1 (73-74), CB350G (73), CB350/ K2-K4 (69-72)
Honda   SL350 /K2/K3 (69-73)
Honda   CB360 (74-76), CB360GT (76), CB360T (74-77)
Honda   CJ360T (76-77), CL360 (74-75)
Honda   CB400A (74-75), CB400F (75-77), CB400TI/TII (78-79), CB400T (80-81)
Honda   CBX400F
Honda   CM400A/C/E/T (79-81)
Honda   GB400
Honda   CB450/K1-K7 (65-74), CB450T (82), CB450SC (82-86)
Honda   CL450 /K2-K6 (68-74)
Honda   CM450A/C/E (82-83)
Honda   CB500/K1/K2 (71-73), CB500T (75-76)
Honda   CX500 C/D (78-81)
Honda   FT500 Ascot (82-83)
Honda   GB500F/F2
Honda   GL500/I (81-82)
Honda   VT500 Ascot (83-84), VT500ED, VT500C/FT (83-84)
Honda   CB550K/K1 (74-78), CB550F (75-77), CB550SC (83)
Honda   CBX550F (82-83)
Honda   CB650 (79-82), CB650C (80-81), CB650SC (82-85), CBX650ED/SCD
Honda   CX650C (83), CX650ED
Honda   GL650/I (83)
Honda   VT700C (84-85)
Honda   CB750K (69-78), CB750A (76-78), CB750F (75-78)
Honda   VFR750C (83)
Honda   VT750C (83)
Honda   GL1000 (75-76)
Honda   GL1000L (76)
   Upper: 30 x 48 x 14   
   Lower: 30 x 48 x 14   
Kawasaki   KH250A5 (76)
Kawasaki   KZ250A
Kawasaki   EX350B1 (83)
Kawasaki   KZ350A1/A2/B1 (81-82), KZ350B2/B3 (87-88)
Kawasaki   KH400A3-A5 (76-78)
Kawasaki   KZ400A1/A2 (77-78), KZ400B1/B2/C1 (78-79)
Kawasaki   KZ400D/D3/D4 (74-77), KZ400H1 (79), KZ400S/S2/S3 (75-77)
Kawasaki   ZX400D1-D5 (80-83)
Kawasaki   KZ440A1-A4/D1-D5 (80-83), KZ440B1/B2 (80-81)
Kawasaki   H1 500 C/D/E/F (69-75), KH 500A8 (76)
Kawasaki   KZ500 (69-73)
Kawasaki   H2 750 A/B/C (72-75)
   Upper: 30 x 48 x 14   
   Lower: 30 x 52 x 17     
Kawasaki   EL250B2/B3 (88-89), EL250E1/E2 (91-92), EL250D4/D5 (93-94)
Kawasaki   EX250E/E2/F2-F4 (86-90), EX250 F6/F7/F8/F9,F10/ F11 Ninja250R (92-97), EX250 H1-H5 (90-94)
Kawasaki   ZX400H1/H2, ZXR400R
Kawasaki   EX500A1-A7 (87-93), EX500D1-D4 (94-97)
Kawasaki   KZ550A1-A4/C1-C4 (80-83), KZ550D1 (81)
Kawasaki   KZ650B1-B3/C1-C4/D1/D2/E1/F1/H/ H1-H3
Kawasaki   KZ750B1-B4 (76-79), KZ750E1-E3 (80-82)
Kawasaki   KZ750G1 (80), KZ750H1-H4(80-83), KZ750K1/K2 (83-84), KZ750M1 (82), KZ750T
Kawasaki   KZ900A4/B1 (76)
Kawasaki   Z1 900A/B (73-75)
Kawasaki   Z1R Series (78-80)
Kawasaki   KZ1000A1-A4/B1-B4 (77-80), KZ1000D1 (78), KZ1000D3/G1 (80)
   Upper: 25 x 48 x 15.2     
   Lower: 30 x 48 x 15       
Yamaha   FZR400R
Yamaha   SXR400
Yamaha   SX500B/C/D/E (75-78), TX500/A (73-74)
Yamaha   XS550RK/RJ (82-83), XZ550RK/RJ (82-83)
Yamaha   FZ600 (86-88)
Yamaha   SRX600S/SC (86), SRX600T
Yamaha   TX650/A (73-74)
Yamaha   XJ650G/H//J/K (80-83), XJ650LH (81), XJ650LJ/LK/RJ (82-83)
Yamaha   XS6501/1B/XS2 (70-72), XS650B-H/2F (75-81), XS650SE-SH (78-81), XS650SJ/SK (82-83)
Yamaha   TX750 (73-74)
Yamaha   XJ750J/K/MK/RH/RJ/RK (81-83)
Yamaha   XV750H/J/K/MK (81-83), XV750SE (82)
Yamaha   XV920J/K/MK (82-83), XV920RH/RJ (81-83)
Yamaha   XV1000K/L Virago (83-84)
   Upper: 26 x 47 x 15   
   Lower: 30 x 55 x 17       
Honda   NSR250R/F
Honda   VTR250 (89-91)
Honda   CBR400R (87)
Honda   CBR400 R/R
Honda   NS400RF/RG (85-86)
Honda   VFR400ZG/RG
Honda   CMX450C (86-87)
Honda   CX500TC (82)
Honda   VF500C (84-85), VF500F (84-86), VF500FE/FIIE/FF
Honda   VT500C (85-86)
Honda   CBR600 (89-90)
Honda   CBR600F (87-90), CBR600 FM-FR (91-97), CBR600H
Honda   VT600CJ (87), VT600C N-R (92-94)
Honda   VT600C/CD Shadow VLX (88-97
Honda   CX650T (83)
Honda   NT650 (88-89)
Honda   NT650J Revere
Honda   CB700SC (84-86)
Honda   VF700C (84-87)
Honda   VF700F/S (84-85)
Honda   VFR700F/F2
Honda   CB750C/F/K (80-82)
Honda   CB750F N-S (92-95)
Honda   CB750FA/FB/FC/ F2C
Honda   CB750SC (84-85)
Honda   CBX750FE/F2F (84-86)
Honda   VF750C (82-83)(88)
Honda   VF750CC/CD/CE/SC/SD
Honda   VF750F (83-84)
Honda   VF750 F D/E/F (83-85)
Honda   VF750FD
Honda   VF750S (82-83)
Honda   VFR750 (90-93)
Honda   VFR750F/F2 (82-87), VFR750F L-S (90-95)
Honda   VFR750FG/FH/FJ/FK/ FL
Honda   VT800 (88-89)
Honda   VT800C Shadow(88)
Honda   PC800 Pacific Coast (89-98)
Honda   CB900C (80-82), CB900F A/B/2B/C/2C (80-82), CB900FS(94)
Honda   CBR900RR (93-98)
Honda   CB1000C (83), CB1000F S (95)
Honda   CBR1000 (87-93)
Honda   CBR1000F (87-88)(90-96)
Honda   CBX B/C (81-82)
Honda   VF1000F (84-85), VF1000FE/FF/F2F, VF1000R (85-86)
Honda   GL1100 (80-83), GL1100C/AC/DC/IC, GL1100D2D/AD/A/IA/DA, GL1100RB/RC/D/ID/DD
Honda   VF1100C (83-86), VF1100S (84-85)
Honda   VT1100C (85-89), VT1100C R-S (94-95)
Honda   GL1200 (84-87)
Honda   GL1500 (88-91)
Honda   GL1500 AP-AR (93-94)
Honda   VTX1800C (02)
   Upper: 26 x 47 x 15   
   Lower: 26 x 47 x 15         
Honda   CR80RL-RR (90-94 )
Honda   CR125R (82-89)
Honda   NX125 (88-90)
Honda   XL200R (83-84)
Honda   XR200R (81-87), XR200RE/RF/RG/RH/RJ
Honda   ATC250R (83-86)
Honda   CR250R (82-89), CR250RE/RF/RG/RH/RJ/RK
Honda   XL250R (82-87), XL250R E/F (84-85), XL250R J/K/L (88-90)
Honda   XR250RE/RF/RG/RH/RJ/RK, XR250R N-R (92-94)
Honda   XL/XR350R (83-85)
Honda   XR350RD/RE/RF/RG/RH/RJ/RK
Honda   XR400R (97-98)
Honda   CR450R (81)
Honda   CR480R (82-83)
Honda   CR500R (84-89)
Honda   XL500R (82)
Honda   XR500R (81-84)
Honda   XL600R (83-87), XL600RC/RF (85)
Honda   XL600RD/LD/RE/RF/RG/V-VH(Transalp)
Honda   XR600R (85-89), XR600RH/RJ/RK
Honda   CB750F/K/L (79)
Honda   CBX1000 (79)
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2008, 09:01:52 AM »
Stem length can also be easily fixed. Cut the stem in the middle, away from any bearing surface. Make, find, fab, whatever, a slug that will fit into the inner diameter with a nice fit. If you need to shorten the stem just figure out how much it needs to be and hack that length out. If it needs to be longer you will need to find something, maybe a chunk of another stem you have sitting around to take up the gap. Drill a few holes in the stem for welds and fit everything together. Measure, weld, and grind.

Does that make sense?
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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM »


        You know Kevin, now that I think about it, I knew you did that because it's come up before since I've been here. ::) I had completely forgotten. I appreciate your posting that list. On thing though, if the only problem might be the length of the stem, why couldn't you just grind the weld off, push the stem down as far as needed, cut off the excess on the lower side and weld it in place? Seems to me that it would be less work, less complicated and accomplish what you need.

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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2008, 12:57:11 PM »
If you did that you would probably lose your lower bearing surface. The bearing surface does not usually run all the way to the top even if both the top and bottom have the same size. It usually necks down to a smaller size.


Look at this one from a 750 for example. If you were to push it down further you would not have a spot for the bearing.



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Re: Triple Tree Stem Length, 80' CB750K vs 83' VT750C?
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 02:43:22 PM »


        Kevin, I see what you are talking about. I guess that's why Greg (ohiocaferacer) swapped stems when he put the GSXR forks on a CB350 that he did. Now I better understand why Greg does it that way and why you came up with your way. I guess it's all a matter of preference. ;) Thanks for that explaination.

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