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Bakelite
« on: January 21, 2008, 09:04:50 AM »
Leo Hendrik Baekeland
He invented Bakelite in 1907, a synthetic substitute for the shellac used in electronic insulation.
Bakelite was made by mixing Carbolic Acid with Formaldehyde, it is considered the first plastic.

A few examples:

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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 09:47:44 AM »
It also have wood particles in it. That is why to get the shine back into a Bakelite case you really have to be careful. It has a different look that plastic. Warmer I feel.
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 09:52:03 AM »
I miss my VIEW-MASTER !!

 maybe we could make some viewmaster discs from the babe thread. :o. that wood be cool!!.. :o
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 10:01:48 AM »
Actually, cellulose acetate was one of the first plastics. The first application for it was for making billiard balls in the later 1800's.

Was a bear to mold though.. very reactive stuff that could explode if it wasn't handled properly!
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2008, 04:37:12 PM »
grips on my CZ-52 pistol are bakelite i think, certainly looks and feels like it.

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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2008, 06:06:18 PM »
Actually, cellulose acetate was one of the first plastics. The first application for it was for making billiard balls in the later 1800's.

Was a bear to mold though.. very reactive stuff that could explode if it wasn't handled properly!
I sold some frames for a guy. They were made of some mixture of shellac and ashes.  It was called  gutta percha or it sounded like that. It was popular since it molded cleanly. There were all kind of mixtures back in the day. 
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2008, 08:42:26 PM »
Ger, you always have the coolest stuff!  Can I come over and hang out sometime?

On a serious note, are you going to the auto show this weekend?
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 06:38:18 AM »
Ger, you always have the coolest stuff!  Can I come over and hang out sometime?

On a serious note, are you going to the auto show this weekend?

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Not going, I'm afraid.
In recent years I've felt the D.C. show was at the "fuzzy end of the lollypop".
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 07:21:45 AM »
Good one.  Fuzzy end...  I'll be stealing that and using it soon.

So, is that bakelite stuff yours?  The reason I ask is one of my other hobbies is Ham radio.  And at swap meets (Hamfests) there is always a lot of bakelite stuff.  The next one will be Feb.24 at the Annandale campus of NoVa.
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 09:44:28 AM »
Good one.  Fuzzy end...  I'll be stealing that and using it soon.

So, is that bakelite stuff yours?  The reason I ask is one of my other hobbies is Ham radio.  And at swap meets (Hamfests) there is always a lot of bakelite stuff.  The next one will be Feb.24 at the Annandale campus of NoVa.

Bakelite stuff is mine--I have a lot more.
Annandale hamfest sounds like fun.--please remind me again.
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 10:46:15 AM »
I was chairman of the Orlando Hamfest for two years back in the 70's. Now it has evolved into the "computerfest". Some of the new rigs must come with a really thick manual.  :o

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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 01:28:24 PM »
It has been much worse.  When I first got into it (late 90s) there was one that had Beanie Babies and other toys.

And while my latest Yaesu had a nice manual, my last cell phone had a CD!?!  And my wife got an IPod for Christmas.  It didn't even have a CD!  I had to download the manual from Apple.  40 some pages.

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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008, 02:30:52 PM »
I spent quite a few Sunday dinners with Baekeland Roll, the grandson of the inventor, down in Connecticut back in the early '80's. I hope he's still around.

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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2008, 02:24:45 AM »
I was chairman of the Orlando Hamfest for two years back in the 70's. Now it has evolved into the "computerfest".

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So would you say it used to be really good, but it's now "at the fuzzy end of the lollypop", Jim? Ha ha, sorry, Stan! ;D
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2008, 07:33:31 AM »
I was chairman of the Orlando Hamfest for two years back in the 70's. Now it has evolved into the "computerfest".

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So would you say it used to be really good, but it's now "at the fuzzy end of the lollypop", Jim? Ha ha, sorry, Stan! ;D

When I was 16, I heard Marilyn Monroe mention "the fuzzy end........." in the movie
"Some Like It Hot".
For some reason it stuck with me.
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2008, 08:20:44 AM »
Now that I know the original source, it somehow means something else.
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2008, 12:11:43 PM »
Geez mate, now you're showing your age, I think I was only two or three when she died!

Here's an interesting thing though, the butt plate on my old shotgun that I inherited from my Grand-Dad looks like it's bakelite, but that gun was built around 1860, so I guess it's probably horn, or some other hard, brittle, material. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2008, 01:28:46 PM »
"Some Like it Hot"
Sugar (Marilyn Monroe): (giggling) But you're a girl thank goodness. That's why I joined this band: Safety first. Anything to get away from those bums. You don't know what they're like! You fall for 'em. You really love 'em, you think "This is going to be the biggest thing since the Graf Zeppelin." The next thing you know, they're borrowing money from you, they're spending it on other dames, and betting on horses. Then one morning, you wake up -- the guy's gone, the saxophone's gone. All that's left behind is a pair of old socks and a tube of toothpaste all squeezed out. So you pull yourself together, you go on to the next job, the next saxophone player...it's the same thing all over again! See what I mean not very bright...I can tell you one thing, it's not going to happen to me again. Ever. I'm tired of getting the fuzzy end of the lollipop!

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2008, 01:32:10 PM »
Ahh, this made it clear!

"I'm not a native speaker, but it seems to me that 'the fuzzy end of the lollipop' is a playful variation of 'the wrong end of the stick', probably used for the first time by Marilyn in Some like it hot. If you get the fuzzy/wrong end of the lollipop, someone else gets all the good stuff (the lollipop) while you end up with nothing."

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Re: Bakelite
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2008, 01:47:21 PM »
How about that dress !
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