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Offline toycollector10

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Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« on: January 19, 2008, 11:12:01 PM »


Someone in the aircraft goes "Ohhh" then "Oh sh*t", as the bird is injested and obviously the engine fails...

First off, the officer flying converts speed to height which is standard practice.  The pilot then gives a heads up to the other crewman to prepare to abandon the aircraft, in effect saying, this is serious my boy! The horn, I think is the RATS system or Ram Air Turbine System that can be used to re-start an aircraft in flight. I'm willing to be corrected, I'm not a jet pilot.

The senior pilot states that he will fly the plane and the junior is to attempt a re-light. The flying pilot is, I think, attempting to return to the field. After pulling through the horizontal he then completes a nice flat turn, but of course he's bleeding airspeed all the time as he does this. The nose has to go down to maintain flying speed and control. Then it's basically all over rover.

The junior pilot is starting to sweat, "Jeepers!" is what he says, I think. "Are you cool, are you ready to go?"....Then real calm, from the back seat "??....(to the tower)....we're to the north we're ejecting we have an engine failure"...By now the other pilot is really sucking in oxygen. Then he gives another heads' up, "prepare to abondon the aircraft" . A big ups to the pilot flying as the number one thing is to maintain control of the ship. The re-start is either going to happen or it isn't so an aircraft that still has flying speed is essential and the eject was made in pretty good time.

The order to abandon the aircraft is "eject, eject, eject". If I had been flying it my student would only have heard it once though.... :D

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Re: Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2008, 09:45:49 AM »
and people wonder why i refuse to get on an airplane.

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Re: Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 02:18:19 AM »
OK
several human beings, many MANY tonnes of metal glass and plastic and they expect you go up into the sky in it?
if it has the word jet in its name it has the glide capabilities of the humble brick...
sorry i think i`ll walk


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Re: Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2008, 12:23:55 PM »
OK
several human beings, many MANY tonnes of metal glass and plastic and they expect you go up into the sky in it?
if it has the word jet in its name it has the glide capabilities of the humble brick...
sorry i think i`ll walk



Yet, you ride a motorcycle and/or drive a car on city streets? ??? ???

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Re: Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 09:05:31 PM »
One the post maintenance tests we have to do after swapping an engine fuel control in my helicopter is to go to 6000 feet, and pull the good engine back to idle.  The pilot then pulls power until the rotor speed slows from 100% down to 98% and holds it for two minutes.  By this point I am fixed on the gauges and hoping I did everything right.  There are only a few things that will make you pucker more than hearing an engine roll back.....   At least we can autororate ;) 

-The procedure is called a Topping Check.  The purpose for the check is to make sure the maximum N1 (Gas Generator Speed) is set correctly given a specific OAT and TOT (Turbine Outlet Temperature).  If it is not correct we land, I adjust, and we do it again.  Just thought I would share.

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Re: Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 02:40:36 AM »
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Yet, you ride a motorcycle and/or drive a car on city streets? Huh Huh
on the bike and in the car i have a little control over things, i`m not at 10 20 or 30 thousand feet and definately not moving at the imapct speeds planes do

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Re: Jet trainer crash, sucks in a bird. Cool on many levels...
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 04:32:06 AM »

on the bike and in the car i have a little control over things, i`m not at 10 20 or 30 thousand feet and definately not moving at the imapct speeds planes do

Regardless, it's still much more dangerous.