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Offline wannabridin

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Ikon 7614'
« on: January 28, 2008, 04:56:33 PM »
Hey guys, I was wondering if the Ikon 7614's would fit on a 76 750K?  The bottom mounts are different on the bike than in the pics here:

http://www.newbonneville.com/html/ikon_7614_shocks.html

also, all the pictures on ikon's website have the bushing bottom mount instead of the U bracket.  let me know if anyone is running these, as i really want to put them on!!!  thanks guys!
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 12:10:06 AM »
If you dig a bit deeper into Ikon's site, you'll find an application list here which lists the Ikon model for each bike.

The part number for a CB750 is 7610-1296
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 05:45:15 AM »
You might want to email Ikon with this question as they might not have completely updated their application list for the aluminum 7614s.  Basically, do they make this shock with a Honda sized clevis or "fork" on the bottom?  My guess is that they don't but who knows?  Maybe if we send them enough emails they might expand their lineup!

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 05:05:13 PM »
I have found a listing for the 750 in recent history, Steve knows what he's talking about, look it up by his part number. 
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 07:24:14 PM »
Huh?  His part number is for a steel 7610 model shock.  Yes, Ikon sells 7610 shocks for the 750.  The question is do they offer the alloy 7614 version.  They do not list a 7614-1296 part number on their website so most likely this particular model shock is not available with the Honda clevis. . . .  .

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 09:11:53 PM »
I emailed IKON and received this reply in minutes:-

Hi
Thanks for your enquiry.
Yes we make a 7614 equivalent of 7610-1296.  A pair including freight is $655.00.
This quote is valid for 2 weeks.
If you wish to order email back and I will attach our fax back credit card order form.
Regards
Sales
Ikon Suspension
PO Box 3008
Albury NSW 2640
Phone 02 6040-9955
Fax 02 6040-9911

I am located in Sydney Australia, so the freight is from Albury to Sydney (about 300miles) and the price is in Australian Dollars. I believe the standard 7610 shocks are about AUS$500. 
I am not sure whether it is a stock item or a "special" order.

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2008, 07:00:03 AM »
Kind of overly pricey no?  Wonder why the ones for the Bonnie are so much less?  The 7610s for the 750 are about $320us on the US website so hopefully you could get them for a good bit less the $500aud!   Ship them from the US if not . . . .I personally wouldn't plunk down almost $600us for a pair of only mildly adjustable alloy shocks without considering other options. 

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 02:10:05 PM »
Just a FYI for everyone, but I just check with newbonneville (I buy my Bonnie parts from them) and the owner, Brent, can order the shocks - said the 7614-1296 shocks are $390 a pair + shipping.

Has anyone checked with YSS to see if they offer a comparible shock?

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 03:15:04 PM »
bonafide,

that's awesome man!!!  thanks for the call, that's pretty good news, cuz those shocks are kick ass!!!

what else do you order from them anyways?
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 03:47:54 PM »

I got the following email from YSS USA when I inquired about what would fit the 750..The website has  picture but the 302 looks very similar to the IKON 7610.. JIM

Thank you for your interest in our YSS shocks.
| Your email to YSS Thailand was forwarded to us, the US distributor.
|
| Yes, we can supply you with shocks for your bike. Please see the detailed
| quote below.
| In the event of your order we need to compare eye to eye length, eye dia.
| and width and whether eye of clevis at the bottom mount.
|
| The YSS shocks are usually in stock at our place and will be sprung to
your
| weight.
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| The following is some general information on the product with pricing and
| pictures.
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| There are different shocks that would fit depending what you like and how
| much money you want to spend.
| All the following shocks are gas shocks with the exception of the BRAVO
| model.
| Some are emulsion, others have a reservoir for the separation of gas and
| oil.
| All shocks are rebuildable and come with a 2 year  - no questions asked -
| warranty.
| The shocks can be ordered in different length beginning at 260 mm with 10
mm
| increments.
| The spring will be selected to your weight.
| The eye bushings will be installed to suit your bikes mount in diameter
and
| width.
| The shocks are available with black or chrome spring.
| The prices quoted below are with black spring, chrome springs are $ 20.00
| more.
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| Model BRAVO = $ 169.00
| this is a hydraulic shock with stepped pre-load adjustment.
| It looks very vintage and can be equipped with different length chromed
| shrouds.
|
| Model  RE 302 T = $ 269.00
| shocks have adjustable , threaded pre-load only
|
| Model RZ 302 TRL = $ 399.00
| the shocks have adjustable rebound damping, threaded pre-load and length
| adjustment of + 10 mm
|
| Model RG 302 TRCL =  $ 659.00
| these shocks have a reservoir to separate oil and gas, adjustable rebound
| damping, adjustable compression damping, length adjustment of + 10 mm
| and threaded pre-load.
|
| Model RZ 366 TRL = $ 589.00
| these shocks have adjustable rebound damping, length adjustment of + 10 mm
| and threaded pre-load
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| Model RG 366  TRCL = $ 849.00
| these shocks have a reservoir for separation of gas and oil, adjustable
| rebound damping, adjustable compression damping,
| length adjustment of + 10 mm and threaded pre-load.
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| The 302 shocks have a 30 mm dia. body with a 12 mm shaft, the 366 models a
| 36 mm dia. body with a 16 mm shaft.
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| The attached pictures (generic) show the different models and installed
| options.
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| S&H in the US is $ 25.00 per pair.
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| If you have any questions or want to talk to me about it, call me
| at the shop between 10 am and 5 PM EST at  877-786-6543.
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 04:14:53 PM »
Nice work on the 7614s.  Got to wonder why Ikon came up with about $550 US vs $390 from a third party??   For similar money the YSS alloy 302 Z series shocks are a more modern gas emulsion design.  They offer a wide range of preload (threaded body) adjustment and something like 80 clicks of rebound.  For better or for worse, I do believe they are made in Taiwan.  Here's a couple of pics of the 302s that I owned briefly before I decided that they looked too modern for my project bike.  US website is www.yssusa.com.   Very good craftsmanship btw. . . .

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 05:19:16 PM »
wannabridin - I couldnt tell you all the stuff I've ordered from newbonneville, but I have 3 Triumphs in the garage (2 are mine - 1 is the Mrs.) and I pretty much order all my stuff for those bikes from him (he has me on his xmas list). When saw newbonnie was linked here, figured I'd drop Brent a note and ask. I'm needing shocks for my bike and I already have experience with IKONs (have the 7614s on two of my bikes) and love the performance I get for the money.

I ordered a set of the 7614s for my CB. Brent just advised me IKON said it would be 2 weeks for them to build the shocks. Suppose they are not items kept in inventory.

YSS is a new shock-kid-on-the-block being distrubted here in the US. They hit the US market last year and the Triumph guys started opting for them as a less expensive alternative. I havent heard one foul word about them. That's why I brought them up. I have Ohlins on one of my bikes, but paying a price that's equal to 50-100% of what most SOHCs are costing people ... doubt anyone would be interested. Yes, they are extremely nice shocks, but you really dont need that performance level on the street.

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 05:21:02 PM »
I will email back to IKON and let them know I can get them cheaper in the US than Australia and see what their response is.
I guess it would cost about US$60 to air freight to Sydney, so they would be about US$450 landed in Oz (=A$510). A long way short of A$655!!!!
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 07:53:04 PM »
damn guys, this thread became SOOO helpful!!!!  thanks for all the information, i can't wait to get some more money to start putting the bike back together!!!

i really like those YSS shocks, they look awesome!
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 09:06:21 PM »
wannabridin - It's probably been covered here before, but if you want to take the time to drop some emails or make some phone calls .. there are other companies making shocks to fit our bikes. It all depends on the style and performance you want.

http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/Main.htm - CB750K1/K2/K3/K6/K7 part #33501
you can get Hagons thru Dave Quinn - http://www.davequinnmotorcycles.com/
Works Shocks - http://www.worksperformance.com/html/home.html
Progressive shocks - http://www.progressivesuspension.com/index.html

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2008, 03:43:18 PM »
Can you guys who ordered IKON's let me know if you got them OK.
I am having an email war with IKON at the moment over their pricing in OZ.
They insist that it cannot be sold at the US390 pricing.
If you guys get them OK, I would like to buy a set, but not at Australian pricing.
Could you let me know if your dealer will ship to Sydney?
Thanks
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2008, 07:05:56 AM »
My correspondence from IKON USA:

Which models are you interested in?  7614-1302 ?  I beleive that would be no problem.
Tell me which models you want and I'll check with the factory.
Dave.

On Feb 2, 2008 4:48 PM, mr x wrote:
Hi Dave--
There's been quite a discussion about whether your 7614's could be had for our earlier, mid-'70's Honda's on one of the Honda specialist forums. It's been suggested that despite the 7610's being the "right" shock for our bikes, the 7614 might just be available.
The discussion is here-- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=30292.15  .
So the question is---are these available??

Thanks, Jim

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2008, 03:22:14 PM »
Clyde - I ordered my from www.newbonneville.com. Yes, he mainly caters to Triumphs, but said he could order any IKON they offer. He checked with factory rep and said the 7614-1296 is available. email Brent at sales-at-newbonneville.com for more questions, but I'm pretty sure he ships to aus - he has quite a few aussie triumph customers.

ralt12 - seeing how I have mine order from an IKON distributor, obviously they're available.

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008, 05:49:41 AM »
Hopefully there won't be a showdown between Ikon and the Triumph fellow mucking up your order!  Ikon's price for the 7614 is simply too high when compared to their competition.

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2008, 05:07:00 PM »
Hopefully there won't be a showdown between Ikon and the Triumph fellow mucking up your order!  Ikon's price for the 7614 is simply too high when compared to their competition.

I hope so too. Maybe I will wait and see what happens before ordering a set for Oz (via the US). The possibility of this happening seemed to upset IKON a bit.

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2008, 07:06:02 PM »
G'Day Clyde, I rang Ikon for a price for some 7610-1296's for Greg Waits, a week or two ago, here is part of the message I sent him once I got off the phone to Ikon: (I've adjusted the US price slightly to take in the current exchange rate)

"Thanks Greg, I got the info re: the Ikon shocks, the guy I spoke to, (Jeff) told me that it's better if they send them straight to you in the US, as you don't have to pay Australian sales tax. (GST)

The retail price to me in Melbourne (with sales tax and shipping) is $475.00 AUD, (about $426.00 US) plus shipping to you. (I just sent a "new old stock" pair of Boge shocks to "Hondaman" and that cost $90.00 US as they're quite heavy)

Jeff said he can send a pair straight to you in the US including air freight thru TNT for $490.00 AUD, or $441.00 US.

From this, it looks like either us Aussies are getting screwed buying direct from the factory, or the US Ikon distributor is running some kinda charity, because he can't be making a profit.....................  :P
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2008, 05:08:24 PM »
7614's for the CB550F:

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2008, 06:25:08 PM »
They look nice!!
Are they the 7614-1296 model ,as for the 750?
Did you get them from the Triumph shop mentioned previously or direct from IKON?
How much?
Thanks Clyde
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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2008, 08:05:46 PM »
These are 7614-1302, valved for the 550. Direct from IKON. $390.

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Re: Ikon 7614'
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2008, 09:33:37 PM »
Thanks, I will now put some more pressure on IKON in Oz.
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