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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #550 on: May 08, 2009, 04:15:04 PM »
yeah, I'm thinking maybe I should, too...

...but my charging hasn't been *terrible* lately.  At the end of my ride home today the battery read 12.5v.  Almost fully charged.
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« Reply #551 on: May 08, 2009, 04:18:14 PM »
maybe just more road time Kit, some of the cobwebs in the charging system could be dormant, ride it till it dies........then we'll figure why it died at the postmortum. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #552 on: May 08, 2009, 04:40:51 PM »
You're a morbid dude.  I like that. :D
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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #553 on: May 08, 2009, 09:28:33 PM »
hey you know that DIELECTRIC GREASE we were all playing with a few weeks back, you warned me to wear gloves when using it.
Do you know why you aren't supposed to get it on your fingers?
Just asking cos my left index finger has lost feeling from the tip to the first knuckle!
Used gloves when doing all the bikes terminals but had to remove battery days later and redid the grease on the battery terminals without gloves.
I don't remember injuring it either so I was wondering if that stuff is more potent than I realised. ???
Oh yeah and just to stay on track, any chance of swapping Samsons' rotor for Delilahs' just to satisfy my curiosity, I don't know why because my rotor tested OK but the borrowed one seems to have nailed the battery charging issue on my bike (which also seemed like a hot start issue at first).
It's an easy swap apart from the fact taht you would need to remove Samsons' rear axle to use as a turnout tool, you just remove the bolt on the end of the rotor and turn the axle in and the rotor just pops off.
Maybe if your charging issue returns to haunt you then you could try this.....ah just keep riding girl. :)
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #554 on: May 09, 2009, 06:10:02 AM »
...I used my bare fingers putting dielectric grease on Delilah's light bulb sockets...?

Samson's rotor is deader than a doornail. We were actually going to take it off and send it and his stator in as the cores for rewinds, so I could still ride while waiting for the new rotor/stator. ...then take Delilah's and redo hers for Samson.
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« Reply #555 on: May 09, 2009, 03:22:17 PM »
OK must be some other reason my finger died? ;D
Reminds me I gotta pick up a rptor from wreckers this week for my bro-in-law to replace the one in my bike...heck I ain't diggin it out now, the damn thing works too well. :D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #556 on: May 09, 2009, 09:48:23 PM »
Went on my first longer ride today. :D
X and I went on a 65 mile round-trip out to the lake. :D It was great! :D  Still turned the starter a little slow when hot, but each time, I gave her a little wrist of throttle and it started real quick.  Good times! :D
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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #557 on: May 09, 2009, 11:27:54 PM »
Glad to hear it. I put about 125 nervous miles on the deuce today, and she started every time with no problems!  :D ;D :D ;D Aint life grand (knocks loudly on wood)
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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #558 on: May 09, 2009, 11:46:10 PM »
Took my advancer (forgot we had these old things) apart after Scunny advised me to check it, all cleaned and greased made the bike a lot torquier, damn it was dry and rusty! :-[
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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #559 on: May 13, 2009, 07:59:35 AM »
I'm anxiously debating the advancer thing, but since I dont' know #$%* about timing, I might just leave it 'til I can see MLinder again. ...oh and that nut that holds all that stuff on is shot, like rounded off badly.

Still researching the prospect of our trip to Eugene (more aptly, Veneta) by motorcycle for the Oregon Country Fair.  Looks to be 116 mi. one way.  I think my ol' bike's got that and much more in her.  ...just worried about the pilot.  :D Then again, I did 70 mi in just stupid traffic this Saturday, so it shouldn't be so bad.  I plotted a route that would make Pirsig proud.  About 3mi from our place, we hop on a country highway that winds around south roughly the same mileage but more directly to our destination.  The plus side is it's not all freeway, like the interstate is.  It's country road that'll take us down along the fern ridge reservoir and only through a couple towns.  I'm excited about it. So excited I clicked through a lot of it on Google Maps. :D

I feel like I got a lot done yesterday.  I swapped the plugs for iridium... 1 and 2 look a little sooty and 3 and 4 are maybe a touch lean, but they're newish plugs so it's hard to tell.  I need to sync the carbs when my tool comes in.

It may have been my imagination, but I think the bike started warming up faster with the iridium plugs.  The idle was definitely smoother.

I also fixed my mirror with some JB weld, just holding the bugger in place but still adjustable because whatever holds it tight to wherever it's adjusted had broken, so it was flopping around a lot.

Touched up rusty bolts here and there all over with Rustoleum silver, touched up that jbweld mirror fix, too, to make it more or less invisible unless you REALLY look for it...

Finally got around to painting the business end of my 4-4.  It looked ok already, but after having to plug up the holes its PO drilled in, it wasn't looking the way it ought to.  Used my trick of popping a hole in the bottom of a plastic bag, stretching the hole over the end of the pipe and spraying that way to paint all 4.  It worked really well. Overspray cleaned right up with Nevrdull. I now have super-bright chrome and very flat, very black silencer insides. :D

Beyond that I just cleaned up all the chrome and picked off all the bug guts from our lake ride.  I almost didn't want to, b/c I've been working so long on the bike, and for so long there was no chance of bug splatter b/c the damn thing wasn't working at all.  ...but my desire for a nice clean bike won out.  This is also why I took a toothbrush and some WD-40 to the 'oil leak' that had begun creeping down the side of my cyl. head.  Apparently, when the valve adjustment rubber gaskets started weeping/leaking, and let oil seep out, I kept forgetting to really clean it off well, so after my last 70 mi ride, (er, halfway into it) I saw brown oil pooling near my head gasket.  I about sh*t my chaps.  Turned out the oil that had seeped from my valve covers had just seriously thinned and started getting blown down that way (I traced it, to be sure) and started burning on the fins.  With WD-40, everything's clean now. :D  No new oil anywhere and it LOOKS to be oil tight so far.   That WD-40 sure smells nice, too, when you're burning it off a nice, warm, clean engine. ;D

I'm going to run to the store today and pick up some 1/4" ID fuel line.  The motion pro stuff I have is 5/16" but was just big enough to leak unless I clamped the hell out of it, and it's so flimsy it just kinks and bends everywhere.  The stuff I crammed on yesterday because I was tired of the leaks is 3/16" but needs violent cramming to go on and I can't fit the fuel filter.  Major no-no, because I need backup.  Also, if nothing else, I like being able to have the visual of turning on the gas and watching the filter fill up and the bubbles get pushed out, so I KNOW fuel is flowing.

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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #560 on: May 13, 2009, 03:06:19 PM »
You go girl, great that the bike is finally a reliable ride.
I want trip reports after your ride so take pictures OK. :D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #561 on: May 15, 2009, 09:55:40 AM »
I rode my bike to work again today! :3

Need to get gas on my way home... 'bout through my first full tank of gas myself. ;D

'nuther 22 miles on the clock for me, then, today. 

It's doing some weird crap on startup, needs the throttle played with to get it going/keep it going, and doesn't always want to start/run for a bit on 4, but I'm thinking that might go away after I resync the carbs (?) 

Other than that, I don't care.  She runs and she HOWLS and I'm happy.
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« Reply #562 on: May 15, 2009, 11:40:19 AM »
I'm so pleased for you Kit, it's been a long time coming and you have learned so much along the way (and I've stolen half of it too ;)) so enjoy your riding, I'd pretty much ignore the way it runs until you have it synced again as the problems you describe could be just part of the tune up, if not they will be evident afterwards.
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« Reply #563 on: May 15, 2009, 01:16:54 PM »
Kit,

I am really pleased/surprised that you went in depth as you did with not only your build/fixes, but you posted them as well.

I'll bet 650 owners for years will be able to get theirs fixed due to your diligence with your bike!
(and I've stolen a few tips as well!)

Glad to gear that (mostly) everything is doing well.
And as to those carbs.... I'm at a loss, sorry.

The best fix I have seen so far is selling them, or target practice.  :o :o
CB750 carbs are much more rebuild friendly, run better(IMO) and no more choke problems.
But thats me. I care not for stock, I just want a bike that runs good and reliable.




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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #564 on: May 15, 2009, 02:01:33 PM »
LOL Soos...

I'm gonna keep dreaming about new carbs, even as I run these.  They're just so expensive (now) I can't afford to replace them! ;)

Thanks on the complement, too.  I figure it'll only run better the more I run it... It seems that way, anyway.
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« Reply #565 on: May 15, 2009, 04:35:39 PM »

  QUOTE:I figure it'll only run better the more I run it... It seems that way, anyway.


You'll find it's the same for the rider Kit, after 30 years of very sporadic riding, having a bike at my disposal every day again is a new joy I have rediscovered.

                   "GO HARD THE 650 CREW HOORAAH" ;D ;D ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #566 on: May 15, 2009, 09:06:24 PM »
I was out in the garage while MickeyX was havin' a good fiddle with her hawg, so I decided to do a nice bike pr0n session.  ;D

I figure everyone needs to see my new 4-4 and stuff even if you can't hear her run.


first just a regular shot from the side...

Here're the new 4-4 and the backs of the bags in daylight. :D

 ...and here with the flash, or at night in headlights. ;D  that reflective stuff is high caliber. ;D


yes I AM proud of my polishing abilities...



;D ;D ;D AND it was a great ride to work today. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #567 on: May 15, 2009, 09:30:50 PM »
On the flip side, my piglet got rained and hailed on the other day coming home from work so it's still pretty filthy.  8)  ;D
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« Reply #568 on: May 15, 2009, 09:35:46 PM »
yeah but you're a hardcore rider.  I'd probably #$%* myself if I got caught out in that.
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« Reply #569 on: May 15, 2009, 10:23:52 PM »
Just like riding on marbles my dear. ;D cold wet slippery marbles.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #570 on: May 15, 2009, 10:57:38 PM »
looking good Kit, I dream of 4 pipes on my 650, which is strange since most of my fours I've had 4 into 1's made for them.
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Re: 1980 CB650c Rest-o by a total newbie
« Reply #571 on: May 15, 2009, 11:43:23 PM »
Kit,

I am really pleased/surprised that you went in depth as you did with not only your build/fixes, but you posted them as well.

I'll bet 650 owners for years will be able to get theirs fixed due to your diligence with your bike!
(and I've stolen a few tips as well!)

couldn't agree more with that  :D :D
I found most of my electrical problems after reading through yours and Hush's posts after getting my bike
and it saved me alot of time, knowing were to start looking for the prob.

Bikes looking GOOD Kit very nice job and Thanks for this build thread
Hope it never dies 

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« Reply #572 on: May 16, 2009, 04:58:12 AM »

yes I AM proud of my polishing abilities...


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« Reply #573 on: May 16, 2009, 08:33:24 PM »
*tap, tap, testing... one, two, three*


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« Reply #574 on: May 16, 2009, 08:45:23 PM »
It was almost in the 80s and sunny today so we decided to spend as much of it on the bikes as our butts could handle. We went to breakfast, stopped by the HD dealer to pick up a part for me... we were both so glad she started right up in front of all those guys.  ::) (I let slip to the shop guys that Kit did the rebuild while inquiring on my switch) Quite a few of them were checking out Delilah and asking Kit questions as we were trying to leave. A few reminices of days gone by, by one guy... The shop guy was floored that Kit learned to do all of this especially when he asked how fast she goes and Kit replied that she is a brand new rider so she hasn't cranked her out yet. You could tell he was impressed with both bike and rider.  ;D After the HD stop, we headed out through the town and jumped on the highway. Kit's 1st time on the highway. Delilah has been very stable and dependable, so we thought it was about time Kit got some highway miles under her belt. We eventually pulled off and had some beautiful, meandering country roads to eat up. We ended up at a great restaurant for lunch on the way to the lake. More looks...  ::) All told, we were out there about 5-6 hrs. A great day was had by all.  8)
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