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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2008, 11:46:46 AM »
Book and raffle ticket here.  Soon!    ;)

What about the book on CD-ROM, instead of paying printing/shipping costs?  It would lower your costs and I can buy my own three-hole punch and binder.  Just a thought.

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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2008, 11:50:34 AM »
Book and raffle ticket here.  Soon!    ;)

What about the book on CD-ROM, instead of paying printing/shipping costs?  It would lower your costs and I can buy my own three-hole punch and binder.  Just a thought.



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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2008, 01:41:31 PM »
Book and raffle ticket here.  Soon!    ;)

What about the book on CD-ROM, instead of paying printing/shipping costs?  It would lower your costs and I can buy my own three-hole punch and binder.  Just a thought.


Better yet put the book in a .pdf and we can download it. Saves you money on printing and makes it more afforadble for us.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2008, 02:00:38 PM »
I would be down for the book and the raffle, depending on the price of the ticket.  Also, if you did the raffle it would have to be something that could easily be deemed fair by all.  It's not that I don't trust the people of the board, it's just this is the internet and all.

To give an example of something easily deemed fair by all.  Say you have 56 people in on it, their money, and all their contact info.  Then you assign everyone a number 1-56, in a raffle ticket thread.  Then you tell everyone to check the results for some lottery with a powerball on a given date, such as the mega millions, which has a powerball of 1-56.  Whomever's number assigned is the powerball for that drawing wins.  If a number is picked that is not assigned, just wait for the next drawing of the lottery, until someone's number is picked.

Not saying that is what you should do, just throwing an idea out there.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2008, 02:34:20 PM »
I love hondamans take on a rebuilt cb750!  It seems he should get the lions share of the profit no matter how it is pieced together.  I mean he already does so much for us... swingarms, ignitions, and now custom steering bearings.  It would be really cool if you could stop looking for a new job and just build 'hondaman specials'.

I'll contribure whatever I can but I don't think I'll have much of intrest

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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2008, 05:10:17 PM »
I would be down for the book and the raffle, depending on the price of the ticket.  Also, if you did the raffle it would have to be something that could easily be deemed fair by all.  It's not that I don't trust the people of the board, it's just this is the internet and all.

To give an example of something easily deemed fair by all.  Say you have 56 people in on it, their money, and all their contact info.  Then you assign everyone a number 1-56, in a raffle ticket thread.  Then you tell everyone to check the results for some lottery with a powerball on a given date, such as the mega millions, which has a powerball of 1-56.  Whomever's number assigned is the powerball for that drawing wins.  If a number is picked that is not assigned, just wait for the next drawing of the lottery, until someone's number is picked.

Not saying that is what you should do, just throwing an idea out there.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2008, 06:11:39 PM »
Yeah, but where's the fun in "the richest guy gets the bike"?

Perhaps you could do this one for a buyer, then another for a raffle.  The beautiful thing about raffling is that you can set the price at whatever you like(within reason I would hope), so you could make some more money off the build.  And someone that buys one chance could win.  It could be anyone.  You could also make it for this forum's members only and only members that are here for the long haul(that might be getting elitist).
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2008, 07:16:51 PM »
Yeah, but where's the fun in "the richest guy gets the bike"?

Perhaps you could do this one for a buyer, then another for a raffle.  The beautiful thing about raffling is that you can set the price at whatever you like(within reason I would hope), so you could make some more money off the build.  And someone that buys one chance could win.  It could be anyone.  You could also make it for this forum's members only and only members that are here for the long haul(that might be getting elitist).
We are talking about a man who just faced a job loss in a lousy job market. I faced several layoffs, and I was lucky to cross the finish line and retire. Many of my friends were laid off and I saw the strain on their lives. In my scenario the richest guy pays the guy who could use the money. When you are out of a job through no fault of your own, fun is what you used to have. I really understand your point and where you are coming from. I just want people to understand Hondaman's situation.
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« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2008, 07:41:40 PM »
like I said before if you did it in a form where it becomes a magazine feature, then you could sell it on ebay.. the site gets a bit and the contributors get paid fairly...

 It could be a comparison to another bike like a bone stocker of the same year or a super refined final model  best of the series..like a 78K as a comparison..
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2008, 07:46:32 PM »
I understand what you're saying.  I threw the raffle idea out almost as a lark, but it would provide an alternative if the buyer didn't like the price.  I think the $2500 price is pretty low for a bike that's been gone through and upgraded by someone with Hondaman's experience. 

I know I wouldn't have a chance at winning an auction for one, but I'd throw $100 at a chance(however many chances that would work out to depending on ticket price).  I wonder how many of the 4000 or so members here would throw the same at it.  I'm not suggesting that it would be a $400,000 total, but I think there would be enough interest to push it beyond what someone's highest auction bid would be.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2008, 08:09:15 PM »
I understand what you're saying.  I threw the raffle idea out almost as a lark, but it would provide an alternative if the buyer didn't like the price.  I think the $2500 price is pretty low for a bike that's been gone through and upgraded by someone with Hondaman's experience. 

I know I wouldn't have a chance at winning an auction for one, but I'd throw $100 at a chance(however many chances that would work out to depending on ticket price).  I wonder how many of the 4000 or so members here would throw the same at it.  I'm not suggesting that it would be a $400,000 total, but I think there would be enough interest to push it beyond what someone's highest auction bid would be.

I'm up for it, and if everyone paid up in advance, Mark wouldn't need no steenking job, he could build these things full time and there'd be enough left over for a few more winners! What about this:
a. First Prize - Hondaman Special K0
b. Second Prize - Hondaman Special K1
c. Third Prize - Hondaman Special K8..............  ;D
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2008, 08:12:18 PM »
Is that Aussie math Terry?  Try again.  Sorry had to bust your balls.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2008, 08:14:00 PM »
Getting back to the technical aspect of the thread.... ::)

In regard to the Timken ball bearings, the guy at the local bearing supply place told be that Timken no longer makes radial ball bearings anymore, as they mainly do tapered roller bearings now. I found this out when rebuilding my rear wheel last year. I went with the NTN "electric motor" grade sealed ball bearings as they are supposed to have the highest tolerances.

I have a set of used HM341 mufflers with the earlier 5-baffle setup (as best I can tell from the rows of spot welds on the back side). I know a buddy that has an immaculate K3 that only needs HM pipes to make it complete, but I could put them to the cause if HM300's can't be obtained (Sorry, Mark.. you can't have my brand-new HM300's!)

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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2008, 08:33:34 PM »
Is that Aussie math Terry?  Try again.  Sorry had to bust your balls.

Fark! You're right mate, sorry! ;D
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2008, 08:42:08 PM »
Hey Tell, shouldn't the K8 be the booby prize ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D






























sorry Eldy  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2008, 08:57:14 PM »
Eldy's got Booby's? ;D
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2008, 09:41:41 PM »
Well I read the post all the way thru...and I'm still not sure what you need....

Lets start with the basics.

If you need a frame....

I have and could donate.....

The followings frames by build date on the tag....

6/74 ...has a texas title
10/74.....title in the works
10/72....title in the works has been repaired in the top tubes.

All the above being K's obviously.

I do have a lonely orphan 12/76 F model frame with no title.

I think I have about 6 spare engines but I'd have to go dig them out of boxes to check the numbers...shipping from Texas would be a bit much.

I seem to have a bunch of other assorted bits and pieces that might come in handy.....

Let us know what you need.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2008, 09:43:50 PM »
well distance is a problem for me, donating or winning lol
but i would sure as hell be interested in a book like that

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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2008, 09:45:31 PM »
Man, there's a dozen good ideas here!
(I like the $400,000 one, myself...  ;D ).
 Jonesy: I may take you up on those pipes. The HM300 set is hard to come by within a $2500 budget, when I hope to start with a stuck K2 engine. I'm REAL sorry to hear about Timken getting out of the ball bearings: now, I'll have to be branded as an "unobtainium supporter" until I can prove out some other bearings. The next best choice might be the German ones, if I can remember that brand (and get some samples). Or, there's a possibility that those new, deep-race spec, ball units may work, too. They were developed for the long-life motors first brought out by Baldor in 1992: they are so durable that some of those motors I implemented back then (10 HP units) have over 15 years of continuous runtime on them with no worn bearings yet. Pretty impressive!

I might have to do more than 1 bike, it seems. I've committed first choice for the first unit to my local customer at $2500 estimated price, but it will be for a "basic" streeter, not a built-up hotrod (except maybe the cam, pistons, and porting bits). It will, however, blitz.

Then maybe another version? Say, a cafe "K", followed by an "F", so I can learn from the "F" gurus here? I love learning and kitbashing bike parts together. And, isn't the K7-K8 the "K" look with the "F" engine and different carbs? (Eldar, where are you?) This one really does need some chain lightening, though...  ::)

CD-ROM, PDF, Tree-chips, or stone tablets notwithstanding: I lean toward the printed package idea right now, but the book isn't here yet. We'll figure that one out as we go...

If I raffle one of these bikes off at $200,000 or more, I promise to return all the proceeds above my mortgage back to the buyers of the tickets....  ;) :D
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2008, 09:50:00 PM »
Well I read the post all the way thru...and I'm still not sure what you need....

Lets start with the basics.

If you need a frame....

I have and could donate.....

The followings frames by build date on the tag....

6/74 ...has a texas title
10/74.....title in the works
10/72....title in the works has been repaired in the top tubes.

All the above being K's obviously.

I do have a lonely orphan 12/76 F model frame with no title.

I think I have about 6 spare engines but I'd have to go dig them out of boxes to check the numbers...shipping from Texas would be a bit much.

I seem to have a bunch of other assorted bits and pieces that might come in handy.....

Let us know what you need.

Thanks, I will, Kghost! If I can get that frozen K2 engine (page 1) here somehow, and if Colorado will let me title the frame I have under the "builder's title" rule, I'll be in business for the basics of #1. But, I already feel a hankerin' for #2 and/or #3, because once the first is done, the rest are easier. So, when you get a chance, please "inventory" those extra engines/frames, and I'll keep you updated on what we're doing.

I REALLY appreciate the help!
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2008, 09:59:30 PM »
I vote for more K's :)
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« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2008, 10:00:14 PM »
Yup. Will do.

The 6/74 frame with the Texas title is not in my name...its just a signed Title. I could scan it and send it if it helps.

The others I just need to follow up on to get the titles...been swamped the last few month.

Couple of the engines I'll have to dig out of crates.

I know I definitely have the engine for the 10/72 K. Its still in the frame...condition unknown

I also have the engine for the 12/76 F.

Lord I guess I have no idea what I actually have laying around...I just go hunt when I need something.

I know I don't have a decent front fender....I have a bunch with dents.

If you can be specific on what ya need I can prolly dig it out.
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Re: Let's help create the "HONDAMAN SPECIAL"
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2008, 01:35:15 AM »
I found a guy in ephrata, WA who has about 8 motors K's and F's, various years.  I'm gonna see what he will take for all of them.  Maybe I can send you one or two if we can find some cheap shipping from WA to CO.

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« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2008, 11:28:27 AM »
might be the German ones.
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« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2008, 05:57:56 PM »
Here's the 17-tooth sproket I've been using. I had a heckuva time finding it, so here it is with all the part numbers, etc.:

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