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Offline fishman_Phil

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CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« on: February 12, 2008, 10:01:37 PM »
Started work on the project 2 weeks ago after collecting some replacement parts over 7 years, but was running the bike in the meantime in club runs. Now it is all go. The bike is now completely stripped. New rims/spokes laced to rebuilt donor hubs to allow my old wheels to go to a second project later. Also any other parts I replace will be used on the second project bike, which wll be just a basic tidy up to get a good looking runner for general road use and save the first project for club runs and shows.
NOS 4 into 4 muffler system will be internally treated with fishoil priot to be mounted. That will then cook onto the inner surfaces and prevent any rusting. Just a case of then looking after the outside of the mufflers.
Pics as I go are being posted in My Album showing progress.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2008, 04:45:38 PM by fishman_Phil »
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 04:24:58 PM »
Sounds good fishman  :)

Must be nice to have a good set of OEM pipes  :D
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Non Honda's: 86 & 87 Husqvarna 400wr's

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 07:01:18 PM »
Hi Matt ... I was really lucky to get them, especially the lower left. I purchased the bike at a swap meet and at the same swap meet I managed to get a NOS #2 and 3 muffler and a used #1 and 4 muffler. These 4 cost me $250 NZ. When I went looking for NOS 1 and 4 mufflers a short time after on the web, I found out how hard the #2 was to get. I then decided it was worth get a set of 3 new mufflers from Holland. Since then it has been a gradual use the bike on club runs, and collect good parts for her for the restoration that is now taking place after 7 years wait.
Cheers ... Phil
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 11:18:08 PM »
The frame has had it's first coat of black over the primer, but the top coat will have to wait for a few days as the weather looks to be turning to showers. With the temperature at 24 deg Cel it is good to be able to get some painting does outside as there is not room at present in the garage.
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 09:57:34 PM »
The frame has now got it's final top coat and the engine has now been painted. Let everything harden for a few days and then fit the engine into the frame. Looking at another members handy hint on how to install the engine. I think I will be giving that a go. He sits the engine on it's side, raised a little, than lowers the frame down over it. Far lighter work and must be easier to control and manipulate.
I am leaving the sump off, as I am sure there is room anough to install it later when the engine is mounted. Also intend to remove the exhaust studs so that the front section of the frame gives less trouble. If there is a problem with fitting the sump later, please let me know before I go too far later this week. I am getting really keen to see the engine fitted, so that some of the other restored or replaced nicities can be fitted.
I was intending to use VHT aluminium engine enamel but it appears it may no longer be available. I have now used an Australian product that at this stage looks real good to be and alongside some original it was a very good match. Check there website for details on it.
http://www.septone.com.au/detail.asp?item_cat=5&item_number=184&page_num=1
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 10:01:54 PM »
Some pics of the engine
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 10:05:12 PM »
got there at last.
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 10:07:41 PM »
looking bloody good phil

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2008, 09:42:44 AM »
Hey phil,
That motor looks pretty. I just started work on 350f (picked up from mikedialect) which I'm planning on making a cafe with.
You've got the right idea for installing the engine in the frame. I'd pull that breather cover off too for a little bit more room to spare.
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2008, 02:16:04 PM »
Geeze fish, you're going to be ahead of me shortly in the resto process  :D
...actually you are, I'm just starting to put my engine together.

Lookin' real good!!

I got another idea on installing the engine; On one thread, I saw that a member took some pipe insulation foam, commonly used for plumbing and put it around the pipes of the frame to protect them when installing the engine. I plan to do this, won't have to worry so much about nicking the newly painted frame.

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1974 CB350F,  1980 CB125S,  1981 XL80S
Non Honda's: 86 & 87 Husqvarna 400wr's

My CB350F resto: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=30467.0
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2008, 04:30:17 PM »
Looks great so far! I love to see all of the 350Fs running around here. Makes me feel at home.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2008, 11:50:21 PM »
Nice work Phil, what city or town are you in?
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2008, 11:54:47 PM »
Hi ... Waitara. Just north of New Plymouth.
Cheers ... Phil
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 05:06:52 AM »
Phil- It is pretty easy to install a 350f motor. With the sump and breather cover off there is quite a bit of clearance. I installed mine with the bike upright, if you do it that way an extra pair of hands helps a lot.
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2008, 05:31:04 AM »
Hello,

anybody used those mufflers replicas?

http://www.motostoricheitaliane.com/Eng_Menu.html

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 09:00:27 PM »
Jay B ... I can see with the sump off it is going to be a lot easier. I followed the manual I have for removal and it left the sump on which made it really awkward to get out. That sump is one big box. With the breather cover off, at least it's screws won't catch up on the top of the frame.
Matt ... it may look like I am getting ahead of you, but I did not strip the engine down, as I have ridden it off and on over the past 7 years on club runs and very happy with the way the bike sounded and performed. apart from the snarl the 4 into 1 gave when I wound her up at times, she runs so smooth. I gave myself until May to finish the project, but I think I am dreaming a little. In May would be our club's annual best presented and best restored day. The bikes need to be presented on the day and taken on a club run after initial judging. If I can't quite do it, it will be presented May 2009 and used in club runs and shows until then. It would give me the added time to improve on some more areas of it. You take the time and get it right. We will both have a couple of very nice CB350F models at the end of it all.
Straight after this project I will start on my little 1962 Suzuki MA50. All the replacement parts hav e been gathered and the most expensive thing she will need is her tank rechroming, then masking off a section of it and painting it.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2008, 09:14:49 PM »
Good stuff Phil, I am taking my time.... pretty much all of it actually  :D
If you keep pluging away at it, I bet you'll make it to the club's restored day. Got a nearly a month and a half.

I'm spending most of my time on prep work. Painting and cleaning every part as well as engine work. This way, I'm hoping assembly will go a little quicker  ;)

Cheers, Matt.
1974 CB350F,  1980 CB125S,  1981 XL80S
Non Honda's: 86 & 87 Husqvarna 400wr's

My CB350F resto: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=30467.0
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2008, 09:14:46 PM »
Took the breather cover off, still had the exhaust studs in place and laid the engine on it's side propped up on some blocks of wood and some rag. Being on my own I found it really easy to slide the frame, which I protected in bubble wrap for safety, down over the engine and position in place. Could not find a 2nd set of engine mounting bolts among my spares so have decided that I will have to delay a little and get all the parts that could do with a zinc plating sent off this coming week. I had painted the bolts but decided it is not worth it in the long run when so much time and expense is poured into these things, to scrimp on the bolts.
This takes me to another issue: Many parts are sold on Ebay, but very few sellers offer the bolts and screws with them, let alone sell a set of engine mount bolts etc on their own. If have only ever come across one seller on TradeMe and Ebay that has supplied the screws with the part I have purchased. And that one was a rear fender and to get the chrome screws in great condition was a big bonus.
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2008, 01:15:45 AM »
Hi all ... well the engine is in the frame, the airbox installed, most of the electrics reattached to the airbox, shocks and rear fender attached. Next will be to send away some parts for rechroming, along with a few parts from other bikes that are waiting their turn on the operating table. While they are away, I am going to have a look at the box of guages I have and see what can be pieced together to make some nice units up. Also, I still have some engine parts to polish and strip the carbs down and put in new kits and polish. Good to see it coming together again as I always found her to be a good bike to ride.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2008, 01:21:25 AM »
Another pic from another angle
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2008, 05:48:05 AM »
Another pic from another angle

Are the rear shocks stock, as well? Everything is very neatly polished and looks great. Did I see that you had painted over the front sprocket? If so, any concerns about this? Keep up the excellent work.
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2008, 06:44:06 PM »
Lookin' good Phil!!

I like the name on the boat too... Phil-it  ;D

 Cheers, Matt.
1974 CB350F,  1980 CB125S,  1981 XL80S
Non Honda's: 86 & 87 Husqvarna 400wr's

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2008, 08:59:48 PM »
Aha ... you spotted the boat Matt. The name was fitting in many ways for her. Unfortunately, with the bike project at present and my golf, she is not getting to the sea as often as I would like.
Yes painted over the front sprocket and should be okay. Have got another that I had been thinking about putting on but there is no visible wear that I can see on the present one.
The shocks were meant to be 350F that I purchased from Ebay, and in the weekend when I went to fit them, they turned out to be wrong. They will suffice initially until I get my originals rechromed or replaced. The ones from Ebay that I fitted had a smaller sized bush at the top, and slightly smaller in diameter all over. I pressed out the bushes and then fitted the rubber bush from an old rough set of shocks I had to get something in place.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2008, 12:42:10 AM »
A few more pics. Making sure I have the full set of NOS mufflers. Been in storage for 7 years waiting. Tank undergoing a fitting.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2008, 07:04:03 PM »
A few more pics. Making sure I have the full set of NOS mufflers. Been in storage for 7 years waiting. Tank undergoing a fitting.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ


Looks smashing. The pictures tell the whole story. Really very nice...
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