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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2008, 07:22:51 AM »
Hi Phil,
I polished my rear brake plate because that's how they were originally.  Can't wait to see the finished product.   Attached is a photo of my last project (if I succeed in attaching the photo that is!)
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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2008, 10:27:39 PM »
Hi all ... will I did not quite get her finished today, but it is able to sit on her rubber again. Went as follows:
Battery put on charge
New engine oil installed
Rear wheel and chain fitted
Mufflers installed, they were clever have the side stand go between the pipes !! Confused me at the start.
Found my chain guard had been missed out and required painting and first coat is on that
Leaky hydraulic connection fixed

Still need to tackle the wiring behind the headlamp, put fuel in the tank, test the rebuilt fuel tap, connect fuel pipe and carb overflow pipes. Find a rubber buffer for the lower left muffler. Add the ATF oil to the front forks. Start her up.

Decided there is enough for another couplke of nights or a day, so rather than rush it, back off and took some photos. Here they are:

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2008, 04:03:35 AM »
Oh man she looks purty Phil, just managed to poke all the wiring back into the head light bucket on my 650 and I would advise you put aside at least a few days to get that right.
In the end I unravelled as much as possible and taped it to the top of the bucket then made a hole in the rest of the birds nest and pushed the headlight back in.
It all fitted some how and amazingly still works, you'd think after all the clever things Honda did that they would have come up with a better way to store/hide/accomodate all that surplus wiring eh.
Anyhow your wee baby looks great and when I figure out what to do about my engine I will get onto you for some tips on cleaning and painting, that's when I get sick of riding just cos it's fun.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2008, 12:39:08 AM »
You are right Rick, rather than all those bullet connectors, some multipin plugs would have been better, as the cables change colour at times. Just popped out in the garage and connected up the battery to see what I have got at present.
Tail light, speedo/tach lights, ignition light, front brake light, horn, starter motor. Not going are the: rear brake light switch (maybe adjustment), front indicators (could be bad earth or no earth for them), neutral light (paint on connectors maybe). Head light not tested as did not wish to have it swinging in case it dropped. Check it all out tomorrow night. Fitted a rubber door stop to the lower left muffler for the centre stand to come back and rest against with out risk denting the muffler (was the only part I was missing). Cheers ... Phil in NZ
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand
« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2008, 04:30:05 PM »
Looks great Phil!!!!

I too had an issue with the headlight/indicators not working. Both the headlight and the indicators have to ground to the fork ears in order to work.

The indicators ground to the fork ear, which is grounded to the bolt on the headlight and the nut on that bolt is connected to the ground  >:(

Took me a while to get it right, in hindsight I should have made a jumper from the indicator straight to ground to save the hassle.

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Hi all ... well the wiring is now all sorted. The bulbs coming from the dash panel were in the wrong order throwing a little confusion into it all. I took Matt's advice and added earth wires direct from the indic ator storks to avoid scratching into the paint on the fork ears. My indicator bulbs were extra bright and blowing, this being my NOS units I put on had 6v bulbs. They now sport 12v21w units.
And ... when I turned on the gas, applied full choke, key on, press of the starter button, and after a few seconds of the starter, varoom. She was going. She sounds good and seems to be really smooth with her new carb kit.
The NOS 4 into 4 sounds good, even though I like the way she used to snarl from the 4 into 1. It may make me ride her a little more gently and respect her instead of thrashing the daylights out of it.
The clutch must have dried out and she would not engage a gear, so I started her up in gear and then applied the rear brake. That fixed that.
Tomorrow I hope the sun is shining and I will get her to pose for you all. She may or may not sport her chain guard as this evening it is still not quite ready for her.
After the photo shoot she will be given a the temporary use of a number plate off my CBX400F so she can try the tar seal out without attracting too much attention from the law. This part I am really looking forward to.
Cheers ... catch you tomorrow ... Phil in NZ
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Take a bow Phil, well done.
They sure are pretty little things them 350f's, shame they are so hard to come by as one would suit my partner (Jaffa) perfectly.

You seem to have a lot of toys for one person, can't you get her in doors to ride? ;)
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2008, 04:54:13 PM »
The sun did not come out for the photo shoot, but the pics still show her off pretty well. Had to take a gear change lever off another 350F I have that looked like it had been modified so that I could change down to 1st gear, else it would strike the lower left muffler and prevent a change, so it is on there temp until I sort something out. Also rear axle will need turning around.
Put some plates on after the photo shoot and took her out on the road, and I am really impressed with her performance. She is smoother and seems quicker than before. Either the carb and or the 4 into 4 has given her new life. She never ran this well before. Good low down grunt appears to have come into her as well.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« Reply #58 on: June 13, 2008, 05:03:09 PM »
WAY TO GO PHIL!!!!!

She's gorgeous mate  8)

That is the definition of clean. makes mine look filthy  :D

 Congratulations on a job well done  ;)

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« Reply #59 on: June 13, 2008, 05:34:37 PM »
Absolutely stunning. The chrome and engine condition makes mine look like an old shed too!!

Well done on restoring easily the prettiest of the Honda SOHC 4's.


Just a couple of questions.. is the seat a pattern one? It looks good!! Also I think the bars are a different shape to those on mine, are they OEM or from a different bike?
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2008, 07:29:38 PM »
All girls go better when they have a bit of war paint on mate, would explain the better performance. ;)
Did you say you put the back axle in round wrong way? nah that's more my style ha ha.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2008, 08:51:43 PM »
The seat is a pattern one, but missing the chrome from around the base. Has a clip on border that is commonly used around some car door frames, etc. The handlebars are not original, as when I had them off they had a NZ manuifactures sticker on them which is hidden by the console lights/clamp. The axle has now been turned around to the way it works best for the 4 into 4 mufflers. I initially put it in the way it was running previously with a right exit 4 into 1 which was okay, but not now.
She has just been for another little run around our town and I am still impressed with her.
Here is one of the places we visited in the following photo:
1972 Honda CB350F (2); 1975 CB400F; 1983 CBX400F (1); 1962 Suzuki MA50 (1); Suzuki M15 (3); Suzuki M15Mk2 (2); Suzuki M31 (2); 1936 James H12 (2); 1948 Triumph Speed Twin 500; 1989 Suzuki GSXR250F; Yamaha Chappy (2); alot of work yet to be done.

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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2008, 04:19:45 AM »
Hoi keep her away from the sea!
Pretty li'l things like her liable to go rusty.
Just how many 350f's have you got anyway?
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2008, 12:56:31 PM »
Hi Rick ... The sea. Yes. After taking the photo it dawned on me once more why chrome in NZ does not last long. She will be kept away from there in the future and confined to our Classic Bike Club country runs, rallies and shows.
I have 3 in total. A 2nd is pretty complete and I will be looking at turning it into a runner for the road, as it has it's rego on hold and easy to make road legal. It will not be restored fully, but made very presentatable in it's original candy matador red with the tank stripes. It will sport a 4 into 1 system more than likely, but if I saw a chance to put a 4 into 2 on it I would. The 3rd is a bike someone had started to make up a cafe out of and did not get very far. To the best of my knowledge that engine was all set up and only time will tell when I get to her.
About 6 or 7 years ago I secured heaps of engine parts with the 2nd bike putrchase. I actually have 11 spare crankshafts, and just about as many of each of the other internal pieces. There was also a cylinder that had been bored .25 thou over and came with new shells, pistons and rings, which I am saving for the future if and when required in one of these engines. There is another complete engine. Here in NZ it is the bodywork and cosmetics that fail on the bikes, and for me I have had to source these from the States at times where rust appears to elude them.
If you are looking for a real good 350F in NZ, the TradeMe seller NUTSONFS had one for sale last week. I have his email address and he lives in Taupo.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
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Re: CB350F Project in New Zealand ... HERE SHE IS ...
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2008, 03:41:03 PM »
i have to get me one of those 350's.  they are the prettiest darn things.  excellent work

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« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2008, 05:55:25 PM »
Nice job, Phil.

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« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2008, 10:04:24 PM »
That bike is swank as hell. I dig it - nice work!!!
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« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2008, 11:37:42 PM »
Hi all ... thank you all for the good comments. I am really pleased with the result and she feels to run better than ever.
But a real big thankyou to all the forum members for the information you provide within it. One does not always have to ask questions. Just using the search facility digs up some answers to problems or questions.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
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« Reply #68 on: June 17, 2008, 12:03:25 AM »
Missed this thread ???

Good read and a very nice job on the bike  8)

Yeah, the ocean and the aluminium / chrome don't go well together ;D

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« Reply #69 on: June 17, 2008, 12:39:16 AM »
fishman_Phil:  Congrats on a job well done! ;D

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But a real big thankyou to all the forum members for the information you provide within it. One does not always have to ask questions. Just using the search facility digs up some answers to problems or questions.
You are entirely correct, this forum and its members are invaluable.

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It will sport a 4 into 1 system more than likely, but if I saw a chance to put a 4 into 2 on it I would.
Curiously, why would you choose a 4 into 2 over 4 into 1?
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« Reply #70 on: June 17, 2008, 01:38:43 AM »
Hi frappy ... purely for looks. I have seen some nice sets for sale on Ebay and also on bikes pictured on the web. It is also very likely I would need to purchase these from the States. Of the 2 next 350F's to put back on the road, I would consider very seriously at using a 4 into 2 for the first of them, but for the 3rd bike it would definitely have my old 4 into 1. In the very near future my CBX400F which has a 4 into 1, will be given a new muffler I purchased a couple of months back. I am interested to see how that muffler performs as it has some sort of adjustable baffle or diverter inside it. One apparently can alter the sound with a screw and lock nut half way down one side of the muffler.
Cheers ... Phil in NZ
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« Reply #71 on: June 17, 2008, 03:10:17 AM »
Best of luck getting them from the states Phil, my enquiries indicate that used engine parts like exhausts are counted as "dangerous goods" and cannot be flown over here.
But you figure some way and I'm right there behind you.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2008, 03:21:44 AM »
theres always the old fashioned way, send it by boat.
Takes longer but they arent worried about oil and fuel fumes.

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« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2008, 03:25:00 AM »
Yeah but you need a connection from the other end, it's hopeless trying to arrange it from this end, believe me I've tried.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2008, 03:28:27 AM »
you could always connect with someone here and go the whole hog....................
Import a whole bike ;D ;D