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How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« on: February 15, 2008, 07:13:26 PM »
I gave my parts to be painted to a reputable body shop. I gave him Dons paint kit. He said oh 2 weeks. Well that was dec 27th. I regret not trying to learn how to paint now.Im sure he'll do a great job but as I've told some other friends they all have a similar story. Not with this guy but body shops in general. I stripped all the parts to bare metal before i gave him the project.Last week he told me that he was making sure he followed the instructions so I wouldnt have to order another kit. I just bit my lip and said oh ok just dont rush it ...I know it will be done and done well but anyone else know how long ''two weeks" can be?
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 07:16:57 PM »
you used those fatal words "dont rush it"
did you get a set price when you took them in?
ring him and see what he has done, tell him your sick of waiting and want them done or back along with the kit

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 07:19:33 PM »
I gave my parts to be painted to a reputable body shop. I gave him Dons paint kit. He said oh 2 weeks. Well that was dec 27th. I regret not trying to learn how to paint now.Im sure he'll do a great job but as I've told some other friends they all have a similar story. Not with this guy but body shops in general. I stripped all the parts to bare metal before i gave him the project.Last week he told me that he was making sure he followed the instructions so I wouldnt have to order another kit. I just bit my lip and said oh ok just dont rush it ...I know it will be done and done well but anyone else know how long ''two weeks" can be?
That's typical and unfortunately it has happened to me as a supplier of services. 95% of the time it is due to me waiting on machining. It is VERY typical in regard to bodywork. They are taught that line in trade school. ;) ;D
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 07:24:51 PM »
Ahhh,lets see,,, Two weeks means... I have few jobs in the shop right now,but I'll work yours in between some of those. Until...."We've had some bad weather and the big jobs are coming in now,the insurance company wants me to get them out fast. I can't piss them off,so I 'll set yours aside until they're done (you don't need it now anyhow). I was going to start it this morning,but my painter called off sick,but I'll stay over tonight and paint it,but I think my paint booth just went on the fritz. If I don't get another big job in before next monday, I'll get started on yours. How long will it take?? About 2 weeks. ;D

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 07:33:06 PM »
Yes we set a price..3 -400$ def. not more than 400. So 300 right Paul?? Please more excuses!! examples...
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 07:35:06 PM »
This experience is one of the best reasons to head down to Harbor Freight (or whatever works for cheap tools in your area) and buy an inexpensive paint gun. It's not too tough to get some proficiency, and like anything worth doing, the results turn out better with practice.

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 07:53:27 PM »
Yeah,yeah....3-400 bucks,BUT. When you sanded it,you gouged it it so we're going have to do a little fill work,and that paint kit you got....well the primer isn't as good as the stuff we use. After we shot the primer we saw  little ding right by the petcock,so we had to sand it back down and fill it. And you know what....that paint you got,well it it kinda blushed when we shot it over our primer,so we're going to have to sand it down again and use your primer after all. But you know what,I think you'll have enough paint,so don't worry....I'll have it for you in 2 weeks. Oh yeah...it might be a little higher then what I said,but not that much.

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 07:54:10 PM »
Having a Brother who works in the trade I know what goes on around those shops. Their big money is in collision repair, especially insurance jobs. when a little job like yours comes in and you say no hurry, they put it to the side and forget about it until you call asking. I'd give them a ring and ask if they can have them done by next week.... And when they say that you said no hurry, and they will, say that was a almost a month ago... Be polite, they hate when people get impatient but tell them something like the rest of the bike is done now and I'm waiting on these parts to finish it.

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 08:08:19 PM »
Thursday I got the "this project is so special that I want it to be perfect"..Does that mean two weeks? Ive been very polite. Thanks.
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 08:16:31 PM »
I also work in a body shop and if my painter took took two #$%*ing months to paint my parts I would take it to another shop have them paint the parts and let them air brush there name on it just to be a prick about it.  Go in there and pull your parts out before they go missing or get damaged, I'm assuming you live in a town with more than one body shop.  Yes insurance work is the bread and butter of body shops but $400.00 is $400.00 if they don't want the money someone else does.  Any painter that couldn't turn out an entire bike inside of a week is jerking you around.  
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 08:21:47 PM »
I also work in a body shop and if my painter took took two #$%*ing months to paint my parts I would take it to another shop have them paint the parts and let them air brush there name on it just to be a prick about it.  Go in there and pull your parts out before they go missing or get damaged, I'm assuming you live in a town with more than one body shop.  Yes insurance work is the bread and butter of body shops but $400.00 is $400.00 if they don't want the money someone else does.  Any painter that couldn't turn out an entire bike inside of a week is jerking you around.  

That's what I meant with less sugar coating  ::)

...They may have lost your parts already and are holding you off till the replacements arrive.  :D

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 08:37:03 PM »
These guys have Concours de elegance and muscle cars all about. The guy is swamped. Yes there are Insurance only places and some non english speaking spots.. so Ill suck it up and post pics if such a thing still exists when i get my parts back. ...
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 08:39:59 PM »
I aggree...times up! Play with their ego. Call em up and tell them you entered the bike in a show. You know how good their work is and can't wait to show it off. Tell em you have some friends waiting to see how good yours look so they can get theirs painted.
If that doesn't work... pull em out. Three hundred bucks should buy you good paint job anywhere.

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 01:29:33 AM »
I gave my parts to be painted to a reputable body shop. I gave him Dons paint kit. He said oh 2 weeks. Well that was dec 27th. I regret not trying to learn how to paint now.Im sure he'll do a great job but as I've told some other friends they all have a similar story. Not with this guy but body shops in general. I stripped all the parts to bare metal before i gave him the project.Last week he told me that he was making sure he followed the instructions so I wouldnt have to order another kit. I just bit my lip and said oh ok just dont rush it ...I know it will be done and done well but anyone else know how long ''two weeks" can be?
Ever see the movie "Money pit" with Tom Hanks?  The contractor's famous line throughout the movie was "two weeks".   :D  I cringe whenever someone uses that phrase.

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2008, 07:13:51 AM »
I don't know about body shops so much... I waited about 2 months for a tank paint job once though. Like you, I said "no rush" and they waited until they painted a car the same colour and then did the tank. Not too many black cars around?
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2008, 07:22:21 AM »
i love what i`ve read here...
thats why i always agree on price and pickup date from the word go, even with mates. and if the finished product isnt up to scratch i will always say so and kick up a stink about it.
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2008, 08:48:43 AM »
while i'm a painter, i normally stick to residential as opposed to the wheeled type.  i have painted my own bikes though.
when doing estimates for a new project i write down all the times needed for each individual task.  (what? you thought there was only one step to painting?)
then i double the estimated time.


so, hopefully, he thought he could do it in a week then told you 2... but, he may have thought he could do it in 2 weeks and should have told you 4... see where i'm going?

if he has a shop full of "two weeks"...
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2008, 09:04:57 AM »
If you can't get a finished product, try to find someone who is in that
profession that will do it on the side rather than during regular work
hours. You may have to ask around. Guys like that usually take their time, take pride in their work, and have a genuine interest in your stuff. Small jobs almost always get
pushed to the back burner in body shops. They can make the same
money on a car in one hour as they can on your bike parts in three hours. A car fender is a lot easier to paint than a bike tank, without the special
effort /methods/paint necessary for intricate small parts. That fact alone can
make some of these guys who work on flat rate resentful. And when presented with a job like that, they #$%*/whine, even throw tantrums
in extreme cases (seen it). Name of the game obviously, the least amount of work for the most amount of money. Sounds good, but the
little guy on the other end gets forgotten about. I'd bet that guy
will be glad if you come and get your stuff. Not to stereotype body shops or body techs, but it's pretty much the norm. jmho from what i've seen.

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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2008, 09:32:46 AM »
2 weeks.. :D hahaha  :D

September: Took my tank and side covers to the "painter man".  I said - must be original paint, decals and trim.  I'll supply.  You strip, smooth, plastic weld side cover damage and paint.  How much time and $? :)  He said - should take me about six hours over the next month and cost about $250 - $300. I hunted down the original paints and he picked them up two weeks later. :)

October: He said - come over and take a look to see if the repair is "smooth enough". :)  I said - you haven't taken out the dings. ???

November: I said - when can I see the finished work? :-X  He said - I lost my paint shop, but will be moving to a new site in a few weeks, let me call you back. :'(

December: I said - you didn't call back.  When can I see the finished work? :-X  He said - haven't moved into my new place yet.  I'll call you back. :'(

January: I said - you didn't call me back.  When can I see the finished work? :-\  He said - I did the plastic weld, and put a primer coat on.  Should be done in two weeks. :-[

February:  I said - I'm coming over to pick it up next week. :-\  He said - should be ready by then. :-[

March: I said - Even if its not ready, I'll be there Saturday to get the tank and covers. :(  He said - It'll be ready. :-X

April: He said - I can't finish the job, but I know someone else who can. :-[ I said - What about the cost? >:(  He said - it'll be about $500. ;D  He didn't get paid.

May: Gave new guy unfinished tank and replacement decals.  Two weeks later new guy said - Come and take a look at the paint job.  I don't think the colour came out as expected. :-\  I said: What the hell kind of colour is that? ??? >:(  He said - old primer doesn't work, multiple layers is too hard to do, paint is too thick, have to re-mix colours......blah blah. :'(

June:  He said - well its not the original paint, I had to use a modern single coat, and it isn't the same colour, but its close, and the decal lady did the best she could but its not perfect. ;D ::)  I said - give me the tank and covers. I'm out of patience. >:(
He said - $600.  I paid. >:( :( :'(



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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2008, 09:51:01 AM »
WOW. Hope thats not my case. But actually the guy is painting the parts on the side on his free time so the dough will go in His pocket. Guess moneys not too tight at his house. Glad to here some one elses woes.
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2008, 04:19:36 PM »
SIGN IN A PAINT SHOP:
"We do 3 kinds of work here, Quick, Cheap and Good.  You can have any Two.
"Good and Cheap-Won't be Quick"
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2008, 10:31:50 PM »
2/20/08 Caught up with painter..In person, was told "so busy but will get to it by the weekend."
 2/25/08 .monday on the phone." so busy but im going to do it sat 3/1/08 pick the parts up monday the 3rd. Called 3 times today to pick up parts.. Finally got on the phone @ noon. said Im painting them right now. said should be ready tuesday afternoon.3/4/08. I called back @ 6pm and he said one coat of paint to go. We agreed that ill pick the parts up wed 3/5/08!!! Anyone taking bets?
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Re: How long is "two weeks" in body shop lingo?
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2008, 04:46:09 AM »
I thiknk you'll have it...good luck.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2008, 06:30:31 AM »
i'm more interested in this gold plating that you're having put on  ;)

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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2008, 03:07:11 PM »
Well Ive picked up some parts. fork ears and covers. one side cover. other side cover had a clear run and the tank was all peeled on one side. Said he could sand that stuff out and be ready this afternoon... took the good parts and assembled them on the bike.Now hes called me and says hes not happy with the tank. He sanded through the clear into the paint. He wants the tank and covers back in @ 30 days to repaint them. Im supposed to pick up tommorrow. I guess the paint needs 30 days to harden up so he can do it over? He says he can match this paint kit no problem. Im worried. I did  give him half the dough. I hope he doesnt expect the rest tommorow. I will never do this again. I will learn how to paint next time. Heres some pics
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I think I'll be busy going for a ride.

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