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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2008, 07:27:50 PM »
Yeah, it makes me laugh Andy, everyone's worrying about the "Obesity Epidemic" and yet, the US has been catering for fat bastards for 50 years with obese cars! (but I do like them so......................)  ;D
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2008, 12:12:24 AM »
Y'know, I'm reading this, and as a European, which i feel very much, and I've worked a lot serving US people (cruise ships) I will tell you this - The problem with US is consumption. Of everything. Why, oh why, you MUST have everything bigger, heavier, "there's no replacement for displacement" etc... And you have what you have - a whole big contient of MAX-consumers. And then you are setting fantastic world trends, i.e. sueing for EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY - which is plain stupid (once, on disembarkation day I've seen an elderly lady being killed by her suitcases - she couldn't handle them, So I wnet to help. The moment I touched the suitcase, I heard "DROP IT NOW!!!!" from a supervisor. As it turns, the only ones authorized were the luggage carriers union or something. Doesn't matter, that the lady was dying, and so on -eh.... no comments)
And then you have the other, very small, but very vocal group of eco-terrorists, and so on, concentrating on few, easy-to-target things, missing the whole point, which is - RIDICULOUSLY high consumption.
A motorcoach. US one and european one (I worked at excursions, so that was my job to be around). the US one is SOOOOO heavily overengineered! You don't need double axle at the end. You don't need huge, iron cast wheel rims. And, above all, when capacity of the bus is 40, you could AT LEAST load it to 35. And saying that cars should do at least 20mpg.... heck, I could never afford such a guzzler here! You must stick to thefigure of around 40, unless you have REALLY good income here..... Or use LPG in a car, which is very popular here. And no, cars aren't blowing up.
And it goes to everything. Look at your car adverts - "it's so strong it can pull a bunch of oliphaunts" - who the heck needs to do that?
Then, your houses made from cardboard and few sticks - you definitely need to heat them up a lot, where it would be enough to build them properly for a start. Then it goes the same for air-conditioning....
Consumption of everything, like there's no tomorrow.......
But, I think I know where it comes from (you history, mainly) so methinks that it will take much bigger energy crisis than in 70's for you to realize the need to change.

And having said that - Europeans have a VERY LONG way to reach the level of friendliness and openness to the others, that is displayed by your average Joe. He may be not the most educated man ( ;) ) but sure he is honest and friendly.
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2008, 01:45:46 AM »
Popcorn, anyone?  ;D
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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2008, 04:51:34 AM »
So Bubber, to paraphrase you:

"Americans are a really nice bunch of big fat consumers."
You can't make too much popcorn, but you can definately eat too much popcorn.

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« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2008, 04:55:40 AM »
Popcorn, anyone?  ;D
A big bucket please. And a Supersize Soda. This is gonna be fun!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2008, 06:27:07 AM »
Sorry Raul, you can't have the large or supersized!!! Seeing as how you are from over seas you are relegated to the small size! We are saving the Large and supersized for us pigs of the West!

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« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2008, 12:56:14 PM »
   Who wouldn't want everything bigger and better? The sour grape crowd.

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« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2008, 02:06:19 PM »


Im guessing the girl on the left is European  ;)

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« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2008, 02:19:25 PM »
  Probably French too  ;)

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« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2008, 02:36:13 PM »
Do they have any fat chicks in France? I didn't see any when I was there, so maybe they deport them to Britain? Do sour grapes make the best whine? ;D
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« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2008, 05:19:37 PM »
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2008, 10:32:25 PM »
   Who wouldn't want everything bigger and better? The sour grape crowd.
And here is the point. Ask ANY girl you want, and if she is going to answer it honestly, she will tell you that it's not quantity, but quality that matters....  ;D
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« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2008, 10:52:30 PM »
   Who wouldn't want everything bigger and better? The sour grape crowd.
And here is the point. Ask ANY girl you want, and if she is going to answer it honestly, she will tell you that it's not quantity, but quality that matters....  ;D
Maybe they just tell you that cause they don't want to hurt your feelings?

Or, get a reduction in tip?


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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #64 on: February 22, 2008, 06:37:32 AM »
   Who wouldn't want everything bigger and better? The sour grape crowd.
And here is the point. Ask ANY girl you want, and if she is going to answer it honestly, she will tell you that it's not quantity, but quality that matters....  ;D
Well I rarely have hit the bottom, but I raise hell with the sides. ::)
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2008, 08:40:39 AM »
I want to applaud this thread's ability to go from USA bashing to sex in a mere five pages.

imho, if it's much more than 4" you're not gonna need all of it anyway.  If it's more than 6" you're probably gonna hurt someone.  ::) :D
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2008, 08:57:24 AM »
I want to applaud this thread's ability to go from USA bashing to sex in a mere five pages.

imho, if it's much more than 4" you're not gonna need all of it anyway.  If it's more than 6" you're probably gonna hurt someone.  ::) :D

Wow, a definitive report from a woman with no special interest in sparing, or hurting, feelings!  Holy Cow you sure get a lot of useful information from these forums!

BTW, what're you doing on Saturday night?   ;D
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2008, 09:56:11 AM »
Feelings? What're those? ::) ;)
Naw, I'm just playing devil's advocate.  Helpin' the world go to hell one spin of the wrench at a time. 8)

I'm gonna be in the shop gettin' my bike running, then marinating myself in Gojo and havin' a beer.  If the planets align tonight, I should have my cylinder head on, have returned the carbs and airbox to their rightful positions, and will hear my baby running once again.  It's been two years since I've heard it running, and never heard her running 'right' (on all 4, valves in their right places, etc etc).  Money sure does influence bike projects a lot...  ::)

Play your cards right, and be in OR and I might buy ya a beer, though.  ;D

Returning to the topic: Y'know what's sending the US to hell in a shortbus?  Emo kids.  "Back in the day" (I'm counting the start of decline being after the '80s) you had the beginning of goths, the creepy, pale kids in black, and you had punk rockers.  Sure they were as f*cked up as you could be, but they were *tough*.  It was nothing to see a punk kid with a crusty mohawk, bleeding from a rough mosh, calmly lighting a cigarette with one hand and flicking the bird at the world with the other.

'Emo' kids depress the bejezzus out of everyone around them.  I can appreciate showing one's emotions (what I'm assuming to be the 'emo' in 'emo'... but to be so white and middle class that you *have* nothing to really worry about, then turn around and be a whiny azz about everything in the world that you can find... It drives me up a wall.  Their dads didn't grow up rough and don't work hard hours to have their kids b*tch and complain about how "life isn't fair". 

You know what else bothers me?  Motorcycle dealerships.  If I could find a single one that was in a dirty little shop with greasy old bikers both smoking outside and manning the counters inside, I'd call it my home.  No.  The Honda dealership (well, honda/suzuki/kawi/yami) is populated by these clean-cut pansies who have never had an oil-fouled gash on their hands from wrenching in their lives.  I go in and start looking at bikes and they have no idea what bikes were *like* before the late '90s.  If it's not 90% plastic, they don't understand it.  I *HATE* that shyt. 

Same with the Harley dealership.  (I keep saying my ideal bike would have a harley frame and a honda motor.  Comfortable as hell and it'd keep working, too)  A damn fashion boutique inside.  A guy tried to sell me on an 883 sportster.  I said "The one I'd eyed awhile ago had a hugger package."  he says "Hugger package? What's that?"
..."It was lowered." I say.  "We call that a 'low'."  he says, giving me the "you don't know #$%*" look.
"No" I advise him, "It was called a 'hugger package' up until two years ago (you ironed and starched waste of meat)."  He had no idea.  :(  I'm sure he can sell a name to a lawyer or doctor, though, even if he doesn't know #$%* about the bikes he's peddling. 

Forget USA bashing.  People let the things they love most go to hell because they don't speak up when big business figures they can change the look of something to make more money.  I have never had a biker flip me off before when I said something to them on their bike... it happened the other day when I was telling a guy (with his gf on the back) that his tire was flat.  He said "#$%* you" and rode off. His buddies pull up next to me and say "You got a problem? All threatening like.  I'm a freakin' 5'5, 120# woman.  Am I intimidating?! Am I scary?! Am I *obviously* picking a fight?!  I said "Yeah, your friend's tire's flat. And he's an ass."

They go "Oh #$%*!" and ride off after him, catch him just before he leaves the onramp onto the highway.  He must've felt it- he was riding on the rim.  Things like that just bother the hell out of me.  No old biker would be like that, I dont' think. 




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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2008, 10:23:02 AM »
Feelings? What're those? ::) ;)
Naw, I'm just playing devil's advocate.  Helpin' the world go to hell one spin of the wrench at a time. 8)

I'm gonna be in the shop gettin' my bike running, then marinating myself in Gojo and havin' a beer.  If the planets align tonight, I should have my cylinder head on, have returned the carbs and airbox to their rightful positions, and will hear my baby running once again.  It's been two years since I've heard it running, and never heard her running 'right' (on all 4, valves in their right places, etc etc).  Money sure does influence bike projects a lot...  ::)

Play your cards right, and be in OR and I might buy ya a beer, though.  ;D

Returning to the topic: Y'know what's sending the US to hell in a shortbus?  Emo kids.  "Back in the day" (I'm counting the start of decline being after the '80s) you had the beginning of goths, the creepy, pale kids in black, and you had punk rockers.  Sure they were as f*cked up as you could be, but they were *tough*.  It was nothing to see a punk kid with a crusty mohawk, bleeding from a rough mosh, calmly lighting a cigarette with one hand and flicking the bird at the world with the other.

'Emo' kids depress the bejezzus out of everyone around them.  I can appreciate showing one's emotions (what I'm assuming to be the 'emo' in 'emo'... but to be so white and middle class that you *have* nothing to really worry about, then turn around and be a whiny azz about everything in the world that you can find... It drives me up a wall.  Their dads didn't grow up rough and don't work hard hours to have their kids b*tch and complain about how "life isn't fair". 

You know what else bothers me?  Motorcycle dealerships.  If I could find a single one that was in a dirty little shop with greasy old bikers both smoking outside and manning the counters inside, I'd call it my home.  No.  The Honda dealership (well, honda/suzuki/kawi/yami) is populated by these clean-cut pansies who have never had an oil-fouled gash on their hands from wrenching in their lives.  I go in and start looking at bikes and they have no idea what bikes were *like* before the late '90s.  If it's not 90% plastic, they don't understand it.  I *HATE* that shyt. 

Same with the Harley dealership.  (I keep saying my ideal bike would have a harley frame and a honda motor.  Comfortable as hell and it'd keep working, too)  A damn fashion boutique inside.  A guy tried to sell me on an 883 sportster.  I said "The one I'd eyed awhile ago had a hugger package."  he says "Hugger package? What's that?"
..."It was lowered." I say.  "We call that a 'low'."  he says, giving me the "you don't know #$%*" look.
"No" I advise him, "It was called a 'hugger package' up until two years ago (you ironed and starched waste of meat)."  He had no idea.  :(  I'm sure he can sell a name to a lawyer or doctor, though, even if he doesn't know #$%* about the bikes he's peddling. 

Forget USA bashing.  People let the things they love most go to hell because they don't speak up when big business figures they can change the look of something to make more money.  I have never had a biker flip me off before when I said something to them on their bike... it happened the other day when I was telling a guy (with his gf on the back) that his tire was flat.  He said "#$%* you" and rode off. His buddies pull up next to me and say "You got a problem? All threatening like.  I'm a freakin' 5'5, 120# woman.  Am I intimidating?! Am I scary?! Am I *obviously* picking a fight?!  I said "Yeah, your friend's tire's flat. And he's an ass."

They go "Oh #$%*!" and ride off after him, catch him just before he leaves the onramp onto the highway.  He must've felt it- he was riding on the rim.  Things like that just bother the hell out of me.  No old biker would be like that, I dont' think. 

Now I'm truly sorry that I'm not planning to be in OR anytime soon!  I'd gladly take you up on that beer.  I'm way the hell and gone (near NYC).  Any plans to visit?

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« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2008, 10:46:41 AM »
This sounds like the start of a promising romance  ;D.........

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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2008, 11:18:09 AM »
This sounds like the start of a promising romance  ;D.........



Hey Andy, if you've got a nice @$$, maybe I'll let you buy me a beer, too.   ;D
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« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2008, 11:29:14 AM »

Ah sorry Ed Im strictly for women  ;)  ;D.....Im sure you can make it to OR for your Spring vacation.... ;)


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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2008, 12:02:55 PM »

Ah sorry Ed Im strictly for women  ;)  ;D.....Im sure you can make it to OR for your Spring vacation.... ;)


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Yeah, Andy.  No joke.  I don't really care how nice your @$$ is, I likes mine female, too.

I do like the idea of a woman who's good with a wrench, isn't afraid to speak her mind, and is kinda hard-core.  Unfortunately for me, most women like that seem to be 'playing for the pink team'.

Find a woman like that who also likes to wear the occasional lipstick, perfume and heels for a night out on the town, then we just might be talkin'.  If not, then what the hell, another beer buddy can't hurt, right?

I guess I just want it all.   ;D
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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2008, 05:02:27 PM »

Ah sorry Ed Im strictly for women  ;)  ;D.....Im sure you can make it to OR for your Spring vacation.... ;)


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Re: Politics: For All Those into USA Bashing
« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2008, 10:35:24 PM »
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Ah sorry Ed Im strictly for women   ;) :D.....Im sure you can make it to OR for your Spring vacation....  ;)

Not sure about the romance thing, but hey, keep dreamin'.  :D
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