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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #425 on: June 17, 2009, 06:45:16 pm »
Thanks Havoc, let's hope the weather is good. ;)

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #426 on: June 17, 2009, 10:10:52 pm »
good luck Sam, try and keep the motor together this time please.
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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #427 on: June 18, 2009, 03:24:28 am »
good luck Sam, try and keep the motor together this time please.

Wouldn't that require him to take his hands off the bars to hold it together?

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #428 on: June 18, 2009, 02:15:46 pm »
It don't fall apart.......it just melts.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers guys.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #429 on: June 18, 2009, 02:28:50 pm »
Well guys, things are back on track. The bike is back together with a new piston with ceramic coating and the stock ignition.
The bike runs and we test at a drag meeting this Sunday at Elvington near York.
We have just had an atempt date confirmed on the 12th July at Woodbridge in Suffolk so let's hope all goes well on Sunday.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #430 on: June 18, 2009, 08:34:34 pm »
Does the nitrous system require the ignition timing to be retarded when you use it?

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #431 on: June 18, 2009, 08:42:31 pm »
It would if I started to load it up Steph. The problem has been getting the ignition system to fire the nitrous.
The stock system wouldn't fire a small shot under load, but it did work static.
When we fitted a stronger ignition, it just melts pistons.
I think I have the problem sussed but I'm waiting on some extra data from Ernie Bransden who is out of the country for a few months.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #432 on: June 18, 2009, 08:54:24 pm »
OK.  So these next couple of runs with stock ignition will be just on the motor - no NOS?  It sounds like you could probably pull a record either way.

We have a similar problem on some large natural gas engines when we lean them out to reduce emissions.  Can't get the ignition to light off.  They switch to what's called "multistrike" mode on the ignition controller which gives about a dozen quick zaps of the plug at each firing event.  I guess at the speeds the RS spins it would affect your timing too much.  These are big slow 250-300 rpm machines we're messing with.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #433 on: June 18, 2009, 09:21:31 pm »
That's what the new system I had on it was. It fired twice per revolution, the second spark occurring a fraction of a nano second after the first one, effectively giving a double dose of spark. The only thing wrong was that the tacho could see both sparks and was reading double. If I had a 25k tacho, it would be OK. :D :D :D
I think the problem is in the ignition curve when it goes to full advance, I think it is going much to far, so until I can speak to Ernie, I'll just have to go with the stock system and hope for the best.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #434 on: June 19, 2009, 05:30:44 am »
Good look Sam - where'd you get the piston coated, Camcoat?
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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #435 on: June 20, 2009, 06:11:05 am »
Good look Sam - where'd you get the piston coated, Camcoat?
Replying on sams behalf;  yes the piston was coated there.
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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #436 on: June 22, 2009, 01:56:31 am »
How did it go yesterday? Sam? Ben?
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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #437 on: June 22, 2009, 01:12:44 pm »
How did it go yesterday? Sam? Ben?
we didnt go sam hurt his hip. :-[ :'(
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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #438 on: June 22, 2009, 01:14:36 pm »
Didn't go Mick. In the two days leading up to it , I had a lot of pain in my lower back and hip.
I've had it before but never continuous for two days, needless to say, after sacking the idea and losing the transport, it was fine all day Sunday >:(

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #439 on: June 22, 2009, 01:15:27 pm »
Damn Benny, you're quick. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #440 on: June 22, 2009, 01:17:50 pm »
Damn Benny, you're quick. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #441 on: June 22, 2009, 01:25:54 pm »
Did you get that Dodge Viper engine you went for yesterday, your dad aint phoned me yet.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #442 on: June 22, 2009, 01:27:52 pm »
Did you get that Dodge Viper engine you went for yesterday, your dad aint phoned me yet.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #443 on: June 22, 2009, 03:01:37 pm »
Did you get that Dodge Viper engine you went for yesterday, your dad aint phoned me yet.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #444 on: June 22, 2009, 03:24:59 pm »
It's going in an AC Cobra HT, spoke to Chris earlier, he IS grinning ear to ear ;D ;D ;D

If I understood what Chris was saying, when they picked it up, it was set up on an engine brake/dyno and they have video footage.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #445 on: June 22, 2009, 09:45:02 pm »
Sorry to hear about missing the run.  Old bike injury acting up?  Or just old acting up? ;) 

I'll be lucky if I can still swing a leg over a bike in 30 years.

Heal up and give them hell next time.

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #446 on: June 22, 2009, 10:04:54 pm »
Why are we born broke with no time. 

Ya hit a certain age when you have all the time and the money and now we get sore and fear starts keeping in as well. ::)

Sleep well Sam ;D

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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #447 on: June 23, 2009, 02:27:33 am »
Sorry to hear that Sam hope you get better soon and get another bash at it soon  ;), cheers Mick.
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Re: land speed record bike
« Reply #449 on: June 23, 2009, 02:51:55 pm »
Sorry to hear about missing the run.  Old bike injury acting up?  Or just old acting up? ;) 

I'll be lucky if I can still swing a leg over a bike in 30 years.

Heal up and give them hell next time.

Need pics of the kit car too.

Just old acting up Steph. :( :( :( :( :(

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