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Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« on: February 26, 2008, 10:05:06 PM »

Anyone else suffer from this? Numbness in fingers? Hands hurting? Makes it really hard to grip a throttle...especially one with a strong return spring.

I seem to have developed this over the last three weeks or so....at least to the point that the classic symptoms appeared. Sounds like the fix is to have your wrists slit!  :o

Linky to a description.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome

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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 10:46:25 PM »
"CTS is more common in women than it is in men, although there have been occasional cases reported, apparently  due to excessive masturbation"  ::)
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 11:35:20 PM »
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is associated with the small "tunnel" in the wrist that the nerves pass through. The nerves get irritated and cause pain. Another cause of this "symptom" of wrist pain can actually be caused by problems in your neck. I also thought I had Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Pain in my hands/fingers. Numbness. Tingling. Coldness in a few fingers. Turns out that it was caused by a compression injury in my spinal column from a car rollover when I landed on my head. I initially ruled this out considering I am very hard headed, that is until I had some pictures taken at a later date which revealed some neck injury. Same scenario. The nerves that run through the Carpal Tunnel originate in the neck so anything along the pathway can cause problems at the ending (hands). Something to think about.     
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 11:36:29 PM »
"CTS is more common in women than it is in men, although there have been occasional cases reported, apparently  due to excessive masturbation"  ::)

Terry,

Does this cause you problems when you switch hands?  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 12:13:03 AM »
"CTS is more common in women than it is in men, although there have been occasional cases reported, apparently  due to excessive masturbation"  ::)

Terry,

Does this cause you problems when you switch hands?  ;)

Nah Jerry, you should be alright mate!  ;D
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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 11:27:37 AM »
"CTS is more common in women than it is in men, although there have been occasional cases reported, apparently  due to excessive masturbation"  ::)

When I was young, I had it bad.

Seriously, I did have it when I was younger.  My first occupation was a car stereo installer, back when there were no power screwdrivers.  When I got out of that, it eventually got better all on its own.  But before that I wore the braces on my wrists.  My mistake was to try to work with the braces on.  That caused tendinitis.  Then I had to wear a brace for that!
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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 11:32:37 AM »
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is associated with the small "tunnel" in the wrist that the nerves pass through. The nerves get irritated and cause pain. Another cause of this "symptom" of wrist pain can actually be caused by problems in your neck.

The nerves that run through the Carpal Tunnel originate in the neck so anything along the pathway can cause problems at the ending (hands). Something to think about.     

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 02:25:08 PM »
"CTS is more common in women than it is in men, although there have been occasional cases reported, apparently  due to excessive masturbation"  ::)

Terry,

Does this cause you problems when you switch hands?  ;)

Nah Jerry, you should be alright mate!  ;D

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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2008, 02:47:44 PM »
Is this thread related to the Babe Thread???

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2008, 03:11:38 PM »
I thought I had CTS a few months ago, after all my right hand is always squeezing a chainsaw trigger it seems like.
But, numb fingers (index and thumb mostly) wasn't the only thing I noticed. My neck also hurt and I could feel
it all the way down to those fingers. I went on a different regiment of workout routines, mostly changed from
bench press which pushes on the neck a bit to push ups. The pain went away and the numbness too.

That is till this past Monday when, I decided to return to some of my gymnastics exercises.
I went into a head stand and felt a twinge on my neck and now I can feel it part the way down
my arm but not all the way to my fingers. I finally figured out that head stands probably aren't to good for the neck ; :(
so from now on its hand stands which put no pressure on the spine. I wrote all this to second
RXman's observations. I've been hit hard on the head/shoulders by limbs more than once and
I figure that is my cause for CTS along with my behavioral problems.  ;D ;D
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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2008, 03:50:15 PM »
Well, I did make a hasty departure from the CBR last year, but that caused no back or neck issues/pain. It did move stuff around in my right shoulder which still is touchy so there may be something there. I had a little of this before the get off so I doubt is the cause.

And Terry...the problem is in the other hand!  ;D ;D

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2008, 05:06:32 PM »

And Terry...the problem is in the other hand!  ;D ;D

Jim


Jim,

I have a feeling that Terry's problem is switching hands and missing a stroke  ;D
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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2008, 06:18:49 PM »

Anyone else suffer from this? Numbness in fingers? Hands hurting? Makes it really hard to grip a throttle...especially one with a strong return spring.

I seem to have developed this over the last three weeks or so....at least to the point that the classic symptoms appeared. Sounds like the fix is to have your wrists slit!  :o

Linky to a description.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome

Jim

 
Yes I suffered from exactly what you are talking about. It was not isolated to riding the bike but it did make it almost impossible for me to ride. It also got worse so it intruded into non riding activities. There were times I would take double doses of Advil AND Motrin since my pain was unbearable and my hands burned.
I went to a Physical Medicine Physician not a Chiropractor or a Surgeon. If fact it was a Surgeon who suggested I go this route. This is how they diagnosed the problem properly.

1. They perform a test using sensors attached to each finger. They take a fine needle, very thin and it barely pierces the skin. They put a tiny voltage so small you cannot feel into the needle. This is routed through a Laptop Computer.  What they are doing is measuring the amount of voltage it takes to get to your fingers and how fast it gets there. This is done from various locations along the nerve pathways. Takes like 15 minutes and no discomfort. In classic Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, the time is below normal and the number of milliamps. I had touch of it, but I was in the acceptable range.

2. I was sent for an MRI of my neck based what he saw in tests. I found an open  sit down MRI so it was in no way creepy. That showed a very slight bulge in one neck disc but nothing to worry about. Once it was established no big deal
l was given wrist  range of motion test. Bingo.

There is a sheathing called a Fascia surrounding your muscles. It has been long overlooked but when people who have had surgery and it failed to help, the Fascia was the actual problem. A tight Fascia squeezes the muscles which in turn squeezes the nerves. Holding you hands in one position while driving can bring on the numbness.

I was given very simple exercises to stretch the Fascia and increase the range of motion. I also wear wrist braces when I SLEEP. It turns out many of us put our wrists in odd positions and hold then there when we sleep. The braces prevent that from happening.

It has been two years and I am using my wrists and riding. On the bike I put some vibration dampening stuff in the handlebars and went to gel grips. The gel grip rubber "sticks" to my fingers so I don't need to squeeze the grips as much .

   
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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2008, 07:35:50 PM »
On a return ride from a visit two weeks ago, I wound up taking my right glove off as the bare hand had a better grip then the slick palm of the glove. I don't like riding without gloves, but the alternative was to let go of the throttle every ten seconds and shake my hand....a classic symptom of CTS BTW! As it was 55 degrees by the time I got home the hand was frozen so I couldn't feel anything anyway.  :o

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Re: Ouch! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 07:47:17 PM »
Well if you really feel you have CTS and want to get slit, call Surgeon they will be more than happy to cut you. What you describe is also tight Fascia, the two conditions can be mistaken for each other.
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2008, 07:53:07 PM »
I appreciate the heads up Bobby. Next week I have an appointment with a sports physician....will see what he says. My doc also spotted a really low vitamin B12 count. That can also affect the nerves and a lot more such as low red blood count. Affects a lot of us as we get older.  ::)

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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2008, 09:09:33 AM »
BobbyR,

You mentioned you took double doses of Advil AND Motrin. Those are both Ibuprofen 200mg. If you took 2 of each, which wasn't necessary since they are the same, you took 800mg which is prescription strength. No problem with this unless it bothers your stomach. Best to take it immediately after a meal so the pills sit on top of the food and not your bare stomach lining.

Also, the tip you gave about wearing your wrist braces during sleep couldn't be any more true! I think the guys that are having this problem would benefit from doing this. More so than wearing them during the day when they are doing things that actually cause pain. Try it, you'll like it!

Jim,

If you're going to take a vitamin B supplement you might as well take a B complex such as B 100 or B 150. That way you'll not only get the B12 but also all the other B vitamins too. Not only for nerve function but energy as well. B vitamins are water soluble so they will not build up in your body like vitamin D or E. Any excess that is not utilized will be eliminated through your urine by the kidneys and you'll have the brighest yellow whiz. Plus it's been rumoured that B6 is a mosquito repellant if you so happen to live in an area with that endemic issue. However your doctor might want to give you a B12 shot once a month. That helps your B12 level and his bottom line with your monthly copay and insurance payment.   
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2008, 05:08:10 PM »
Actually i made a mistake, I meant to say Motrin and Alleve. Probably was not too bright. I was considering Oxycodone whch I used for a Kidney stone, but I do not like narcotics.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2008, 09:51:01 PM »
I understand where you are coming from. I actually settled into my favorite chair yesterday morning with a Percocet (oxycodone and acetaminophen) and a heating pad which resulted in a 2.66mm kidney stone by 3pm. Thank goodness for the Percocet and my digital calipers  :D  They both come in handy when necessary. 
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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2008, 05:55:48 AM »
I understand where you are coming from. I actually settled into my favorite chair yesterday morning with a Percocet (oxycodone and acetaminophen) and a heating pad which resulted in a 2.66mm kidney stone by 3pm. Thank goodness for the Percocet and my digital calipers  :D  They both come in handy when necessary. 
You are blessed popping that bid boy out. I had 5 of them over a 2 year period and then went 25 years without one. Then one day BANG that same old feeling.
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2008, 10:12:32 PM »
Adding to the discussion: [BTW Jerry: welcome back..how was Japan..et al?]..

Found 2-3 things that help the most..don't tap out the pocket book.  Chiropractic (yeah I know Jerry..not conventional)..Acupuncture (probably one of best long term approaches I've found to many health issues)..more recently Deep Tissue Massage with Shiatsu pressure point release.   The "massage" just about lifts me off the table sometimes..when they go in to loosen adhesions and do "nerve gliding" (finding..then massaging/stimulating nerve pathways) on neck, shoulders, arms, hands. Have to "breathe through" that stuff..easier said than done.   But..it works..better than any of the other methods (though with meds..don't care anyway it seems)..and sure beats heck out of invasive procedures I feel.

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2008, 10:29:26 PM »
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Japan was just the beginning and ending of a fantastic voyage, thanks! Very clean and quiet place from what I saw. MANY beautiful women. I saw maybe 3 over weight people the whole time! Amazing compared to our "western" standards. Spent the better part of a week around a group of Japanese divers on Carp Island, Palau. AND, believe this seriously, I was declared Ichiban for my videos of Manta Rays and Whale Sharks. Very comical and humbling at the same time.

You know, I've been wanting to  try that "non-conventional medicine" as you call it. I call it an oriental massage  ;). Just don't think I could handle the needles however.

 
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