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Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« on: March 06, 2008, 07:47:10 AM »
Well I spent half the day yesterday in the hospital to find out I passed a kidney stone!  Holy hell that was the worst pain I have ever had.  The doctor said it could have been caused by drinking alot of tea.  We got an Iced tea maker a month ago and I have been drinking like a pitcher a day.  So if you drink alot of tea make sure and follow up with some water.

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Re: Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 07:54:12 AM »
Note to self... tea is evil!  I will give up tea forever just on the outside chance it'll cause that.  I've heard the horror stories.  Glad you've got it over with.  They give you anything to make the pain go away?
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Re: Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 08:01:52 AM »
I work in this area of research.....here is something that you may find useful (see below for possible causes - not its usually not just one thing) - we are currently investigating the role of oxalate transport in the kidney - oxalate is endogenously produced but also comes in the diet - things like tea, green vegetables etc....so if you are susceptible (for whatever reason) you may want to watch what you eat....

In most people the underlying cause isn't known. Some people with kidney stones have lower levels of citrate in their urine, which usually stops the stones forming.

Different kinds of kidney stones form from different salts in the urine.

Calcium stones are the most common type of kidney stone. They are either spiky or large and smooth, and are made up of calcium oxalate or calcium phosphate.

Calcium stones are more common in people who have excess levels of vitamin D or who have an overactive parathyroid gland. People who have medical conditions such as cancer, some kidney diseases, or a disease called sarcoidosis are also more likely to develop calcium stones.

Uric acid stones are smooth, brown and soft. Excess amounts of uric acid can be caused by eating a lot of meat. Conditions such as gout and treatments such as chemotherapy can also increase the risk of getting uric acid stones.

Struvite stones (infection stones) are usually large and have a horn-like shape. They develop when there is too much ammonia in the urine. This can happen if you have a urinary tract infection (UTI), because the bacteria that cause these infections can generate ammonia. This kind of kidney stone is most often found in women.

Cystine stones are yellow and crystalline. They develop if you have high levels of cystine in your urine, which happens if you have a hereditary disorder called cystinuria. Only one in a hundred kidney stones are caused by this condition. Cystine stones tend to develop earlier in life than other kidney stones, usually between the ages of 10 and 30 years.


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Re: Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 08:02:26 AM »
No they didnt give me anything.  I was an hour and a half away from home by my self getting ready to paint our new store and started getting what felt like a cramp and went to the bathroom and about passed out.  I sat there for probably 20 minutes and then decided to call an emt.  Guess I am glad I got my bike about done before I get this bill.  The pain passed after an hour or so.  But I went to the hospital anyways.

Andy -  I am only 27 so hopefully its not the last one!  I have never had anything like this and they did a cat scan and said there were no more, so that is good.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 08:40:35 AM »
Been there, but got lucky.  After playing basketball with some friends, noticed blood in the urine.  Guess it was bouncing around causing trouble.

Anyway, they found two in me - one 12 mm!   :o   Went in for lithotripsy (knocked me out - used sound waves to break them up).  Big one was so big, they couldn't break it up all the way.  Had to go back later...

Good news?  Broke them up enough I was just passing sand.  :-\
Better news?  On so much pain medicine that I didn't care.  8)
Bad news?  Cost more to have a kidney stone than a baby!  :'(


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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 08:58:24 AM »
years ago i used to get kidney stones couple of times a year, docs told me it was because of the very high mineral content in my well water. got so i could tell when one was about to pass. no damned fun at all.

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 09:04:50 AM »
I was a stoic child.  When I told her I was in a lot of pain I think it was the first time my mom had heard me say those words- i was twelve- so she took me to the ER.  More than the pain I remember my young mind;s first encounter with demerol.  One or Two in pill form (can't rightliy remember) and a shot in the butt later, I would spend the following decade trying to make more kidney stones in an effort to get that sort of treatment again.  

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Re: Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 09:07:22 AM »
I was a stoic child.  When I told her I was in a lot of pain I think it was the first time my mom had heard me say those words- i was twelve- so she took me to the ER.  More than the pain I remember my young mind;s first encounter with demerol.  One or Two in pill form (can't rightliy remember) and a shot in the butt later, I would spend the following decade trying to make more kidney stones in an effort to get that sort of treatment again.  

Off to get an iced tea machine
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LOL  Ya i kind of wished they had given me something.  But I had a little something in my car to "ease the pain" on the way home.

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 09:35:11 AM »
I have had six of them. #1 thru 5 started at 25 the last one at 29. 25 years later I got that magic feeling again. 4mm which was right on the cusp. It popped out on it's own after a few days. There is some kind of test where you have to pee in different small containers for 24 hours to see if what you are eating contriobutes to the formation. Not sure if it is valid. Passing the stone does not hurt it is up to that point that hurts.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 11:02:46 AM »
i drink a boat load of tea,perhaps its because its decaf,i dont as of yet have any stone issues.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 11:08:46 AM »
had one at about 18yo and along around age 30. the second round was I believe due to a high protein diet. End result was excruciating pain until they give you the morphine. Have not had any since then but a stone will make you a believer in straight water and lots of it.

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 12:24:49 PM »
had one at about 18yo and along around age 30. the second round was I believe due to a high protein diet. End result was excruciating pain until they give you the morphine. Have not had any since then but a stone will make you a believer in straight water and lots of it.
It made me a beliver in Morphine. ;D I also drink lots of water.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2008, 05:54:27 PM »
I'm sure glad yours passed fairly quickly.  I've treated many patients with stones, and had them myself.  Although we (the docs and nurses) don't think of them as particularly dangerous (on the scale of what comes into the ED), kidney stones are among the most painful ailments one can get.  More than one woman has told me that stones were far worse than any labour pains.

I had my stones about age 24.  I literally crawled on hands and knees into the ED at Shaarei Tzedek Hospital.  The doc who treated me was an old guy from a little town in Germany.  He told me when he had stones as a young man the treatment was to drink a lot of beer, run up and down the tallest building in the village, then go sit in a bathtub and drink more beer.  Eventually he peed them out.

Fortunately, he gave me narcotics to pass the time instead.   ::)  After they discharged me, I crawled back in there later in the day.  It took about two days to pass the stones.

Whenever we think patients have stones, they get pain meds fast.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2008, 06:02:19 PM »
FOOK KIDNEY STONES!!!  I would rather slam my junk in the car door again than to reenact that two hours of my life. (shiver and shudder)
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2008, 06:36:01 PM »
FOOK KIDNEY STONES!!!  I would rather slam my junk in the car door again than to reenact that two hours of my life. (shiver and shudder)


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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2008, 06:42:56 PM »
" Guess I am glad I got my bike about done before I get this bill"

What..............no National Medical coverage ;D   Us communists up North get all the breaks ;D
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P.S. cbass*gxc, I can't say I feel your pain, but I will stay clear of massive amounts of Tea and stick with beer ;D
I do hope you feel better.






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Re: Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2008, 07:47:09 PM »
" Guess I am glad I got my bike about done before I get this bill"

What..............no National Medical coverage ;D   Us communists up North get all the breaks ;D
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P.S. cbass*gxc, I can't say I feel your pain, but I will stay clear of massive amounts of Tea and stick with beer ;D
I do hope you feel better.







Yeah yeah rub it in.  At least we have corporate welfare because you know free market economies only work best if masses of people are left without basic needs. (yes regular medical care is a basic need)
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Re: Kidney Stones....Who's had them?
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2008, 08:10:55 PM »
I'm sure glad yours passed fairly quickly.  I've treated many patients with stones, and had them myself.  Although we (the docs and nurses) don't think of them as particularly dangerous (on the scale of what comes into the ED), kidney stones are among the most painful ailments one can get.  More than one woman has told me that stones were far worse than any labour pains.

I had my stones about age 24.  I literally crawled on hands and knees into the ED at Shaarei Tzedek Hospital.  The doc who treated me was an old guy from a little town in Germany.  He told me when he had stones as a young man the treatment was to drink a lot of beer, run up and down the tallest building in the village, then go sit in a bathtub and drink more beer.  Eventually he peed them out.

Fortunately, he gave me narcotics to pass the time instead.   ::)  After they discharged me, I crawled back in there later in the day.  It took about two days to pass the stones.

Whenever we think patients have stones, they get pain meds fast.
Actually that is the best way to pass a stone. Lots of up and down movement and plenty of fluids. They had me flat on my back for a week and wanted to a go get the stone since it seemed stuck. When I declined, they threw me out on a Friday. That night I hit the Gin Mill with an young lady and we got busy later. Saturday Night back at the Gin Mill and more activity. Sunday morning at 3am out popped the stone. Monday I brought the stone in for testing. The Doc asked how I got a stone that stuck out. I told him F***in. I am not sure he wrote that down or not.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2008, 08:20:41 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2008, 07:11:53 AM »
Luckily I do have insurance but my deductible is $1500 so I am sure I will be paying at least that.  Which is alright because I have to get surgery on my wrist as well.  I have a ganglion cyst that looks like a big freaking bump on the back of my wrist so at least with these 2 combined I should have my deductible covered.

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2008, 08:51:10 AM »
9:48 am... too early for beer? 

stones sound like a pisser...
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2008, 08:58:31 AM »
It's after 5:00 PM in Rome, so make like your Italian. ;)
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2008, 09:01:06 AM »
I went to school with a Rodney Stone..... probably not the same thing though some of the symptoms sound familiar.


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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2008, 11:57:51 AM »
Yes, I've had 3.  Last one required lithotrypsy.  Percocet is your friend.
I'm uniformed services so I had mine done at a Walter Reed Army Medical Center.  Nothing like getting prepped for anesthesia with a bunch of young guys back from Iraq to make you feel lucky you've only got stones.

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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2008, 02:24:37 PM »
Yes, I've had 3.  Last one required lithotrypsy.  Percocet is your friend.
I'm uniformed services so I had mine done at a Walter Reed Army Medical Center.  Nothing like getting prepped for anesthesia with a bunch of young guys back from Iraq to make you feel lucky you've only got stones.

And MrBlasty- I laughed for 10 minutes on that one.

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By the way, the spell check thinks that lithotrypsy should be changed to "deathtraps", Percocet should be "perkiest" and MrBlasty, well you're "Moralist".  I love these things.

And the moralist of the story is? Be careful slamming the car door when you have kidney stones.
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