Author Topic: 400f broken exhaust stud  (Read 1026 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

wilson11

  • Guest
400f broken exhaust stud
« on: March 09, 2008, 02:30:16 PM »
So I've broken a stud off(#1 cyl inside) and can not remove it. Drilled it out ,penetrating oil and heat along with the stud extractor and still nothing.Now I figure the head has to come off because the hole  is still in good shape and I don't want to ruin anything further like break the stud extractor off in there or something.Can any forum members in southern Ontario Toronto area recommend a good shop to do this job? My mechanical abilities,tools and shop would be a little stretched doing this so I think I should get a pro to do this Thanks.

Offline Tim.

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,945
  • www.DOTHETON.com
    • DO THE TON
Re: 400f broken exhaust stud
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 04:25:36 PM »
Gord Bush Performance in Etobicoke.  Do you need a valve job?  Might be worth doing at the same time.  I had my XS650 head done there as well as boring/honing on my cylinders.

I had my CB550F work done up at Concepts on Wheels in Markham.  Also a good shop, but I'd strongly recommend Gord Bush.

Whereabouts in the GTA are you?
Roule comme dans les annĂ©es 70...   Roll as in the Seventies...

wilson11

  • Guest
Re: 400f broken exhaust stud
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 06:53:20 PM »
I'm in Toronto, Bloor and Keele . I don 't think I need a valve job as it runs good (13000 mi)but when we get the head off will know better and take it from there but I'll probably do as much as I can while it's apart to save from doing it again down the road aways.

Offline Terry in Australia

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 33,290
  • So, what do ya wanna talk about today?
Re: 400f broken exhaust stud
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 07:24:05 PM »
If you can get at it with an electric drill I'd leave the head on mate, and just carefully drill the remains of the stud out. Use the "small, bigger, bigger again and biggest" drill bit technique, then go buy a helicoil set (8 x 1.25mm?) and a new stud, and Bob's yer uncle.

I did it on my Suzuki GS1000 a few years ago, and was riding it again the same day, it cost way less than a shop would have charged, and I got a helicoil set to add to my collection of tools. Have fun! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

wilson11

  • Guest
Re: 400f broken exhaust stud
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 04:58:22 PM »
I've already drilled it out but it's not perfectly centered so I am already biting into the aluminum and I don't want to lose too much material. What is the max size you could put in the head, 10mm?I only want to remove the head as a last resort but it's not a total loss as I can replace the seal between the cyl head and cyl barrel that feeds oil to the rockers because it's leaking.

Offline mystic_1

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,071
  • 1970 CB750K
Re: 400f broken exhaust stud
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 05:03:35 PM »
At worst you can drill until there's just a thin shell of the stud left, then pick out the remains with a dental pick.  Next, take your now-oblong, oversized hole and drill it out to accept a metric Helicoil.  I'd get the helicoil kit first, so you know how large you can drill without going over.

mystic_1
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."
- John Augustus Shedd

My build thread:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=68952.0

Offline mattcb350f

  • Hardly a
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,625
  • 1974 CB350F
Re: 400f broken exhaust stud
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 05:59:49 PM »
I'd take it to a machine shop and have them look at it. If you brake off a bit in there or worse, an extractor it's all over. If you're already into the aluminum than you are off center and it's really hard to get back. Machinists have a knack for broken studs but they really hate when they've been mangled to death. I know because I've done it myself  ::)

If you don't need to remove the head than take the bike to someone to get it out. It might cost a bit, but not likely more than a top end gasket set, seals, etc....

 Matt.
1974 CB350F,  1980 CB125S,  1981 XL80S
Non Honda's: 86 & 87 Husqvarna 400wr's

My CB350F resto: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=30467.0
Gallery at:
http://gallery.sohc4.net/main.php?g2_itemId=298318