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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2008, 11:41:28 AM »
i have set of really garish side covers and fender... when i collect the shipping dough i may send them your way.   ;) :D

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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2008, 11:54:44 AM »
Perfect man, looks perfect, now my only question is how much Makers Mark do i need to drink between coats?

Yep, i have issues with this sort of stuff.

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2008, 02:57:55 PM »
Thanks guys, well in my (pisss weak) efforts to lose a few pounds I've been off the booze for a few days, so I couldn't tell you how many MM's between coats, but it's probably best if you wait until it's finished before you open the bottle, ha ha!

Offy, the paint I used is an acrylic laquer, and once cleared, will stand up to fuel spills as well as the OEM finish, but you'd need to leave it in a warm place for a week or so before gassing it up for the first time. The 2 pack clear is a lot more fuel resistant, but if I wasn't using decals I'd be happy enough to just use the rattle can clear though. I've often thought about a spray booth, particularly when I was painting cars, but I don't think I'd ever get my money back.

John, let me know what the "pro" is charging for your K0 stuff, I saw an article in a mag here and the crooks were charging over $1000.00 for paint, plus decals! Good work if you can get it, ha ha! ;D
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2008, 03:56:12 PM »
Terry...I took the pro my dondirtbiker paint, new decals and tank trim.  He guessed somewhere between $400 - $600.  I will let you know the exact cost when I get everything back.  This guy comes with many references of doing custom work and vintage stuff.  I have seen his work and it is awesome.  I had another shop tell me $300, but just was not comfortable with the stuff I have seen from him. 
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2008, 03:10:32 AM »
Well make sure you post some pics John! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2008, 03:32:08 AM »
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You need to get some polsh on all that chrome now Terry, it's kinda letting the side down don't you think ;)
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2008, 03:46:43 AM »
Ha ha, it's got three years worth of dust covering it Crispy, but as soon as I've got the carbs and the pipe back on it, it's gonna get the mother of all washes! I was admiring the brake pedal yesterday, I paid 80 bucks to get it re-chromed 3 years ago, and so once I washed the shiite off it, it came up like jewellery! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2008, 03:52:13 AM »
oooooooooo gotta love the shiny bits ;)

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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2008, 08:23:14 AM »
i have set of really garish side covers and fender... when i collect the shipping dough i may send them your way.   ;) :D

that is perfection terry, obviously aided by a few beers. 

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2008, 08:26:14 AM »
Geez Terry, it's about time you got a decent bike!  ;)

Thanks Lloyd, well as far as "overspray dispersal" goes, you're pretty much spot on, I normally spray that stuff outside the garage, I only risked spraying it inside yesterday as it was pisssing down with rain.

I've heard about California's laws regarding paint, and to be honest, I think it's a good thing, and I'd be much happier to use water based paint, when and if we ever get it over here. I already have a HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) gun like you guys use, and I actually like it, it takes a few more passes to lay the same amount of product on, but the overspray is minimal, and you don't waste as much paint, either.

I attached the badges and trap door this morning, then spent the rest of the day re-installing the engine. It's really nice just having the engine back in the frame, and even though there's still a bit of work to do before I can fire it up and tear up some miles, I'm happy that it's looking like a bike again. All going well, next weekend will see it finished and ready for the road! Cheers, Terry. ;D





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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2008, 07:37:32 PM »
i have set of really garish side covers and fender... when i collect the shipping dough i may send them your way.   ;) :D

that is perfection terry, obviously aided by a few beers. 

Heffay,

Shipping 2 side covers to OZ is $18. Or in Terry's case it was NC (a favor to a friend).

RX... you out of the loop, man... oh wait, you were never in on the INSIDE joke!  haha... cheers, geoff  ;D
how was that terrypersonation?   :D
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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2008, 10:27:04 PM »
You gotta watch how he pokes  ;) I was kinda hoping now that he is F2 Man of the Year and he's learned how to paint that he might repaint that paisley/pansy tank of his.  ::) I can't wait to see what he does to his Suzi side covers. Guess I missed your carbon fiber. I think Terry uses Metamucil fiber. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2008, 02:09:15 AM »
Geez I go away for a few hours and you two turkeys are trying to run down this magnificent technical piece with yer pokin' and your jabbin', ha ha!

Now that "Paisley" piece on my K1 "Power Kruiser" is genuine 1970's "Psychedelic Art", painted in the good old US of A by someone called Wojowizc, in 1974.

No idea what he was ingesting as he went about his business, but Jerry's a pharmacist, so he could probably work it out, ha ha! One of the members here, Chris in Boston, entrusted it to me and it's way too good to paint over, that'd be sacriledge after 34 years.

Even when I change the K1's look and style quite radically in a few months time, I won't paint that tank, I'll just pull another one down from my garage wall, and let that "Paisley" one have a well deserved rest.

The GS1000 sidecovers that Jerry most generously collected and even mailed to me at his own expense (thanks mate, I'm deeply in your debt, that was "above and beyond the call") are only going on to another bike that I'm "Tarting up" to sell, but I've got some nice candy gold (CB350 color) to paint all the Suzy bits with, so they'll look ok, for sure. 

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« Last Edit: April 02, 2008, 12:45:50 PM by Terry in Australia »
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2008, 01:56:48 AM »
Geez Terry, it's about time you got a decent bike!  ;)

Thanks Lloyd, well as far as "overspray dispersal" goes, you're pretty much spot on, I normally spray that stuff outside the garage, I only risked spraying it inside yesterday as it was pisssing down with rain.

I've heard about California's laws regarding paint, and to be honest, I think it's a good thing, and I'd be much happier to use water based paint, when and if we ever get it over here. I already have a HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) gun like you guys use, and I actually like it, it takes a few more passes to lay the same amount of product on, but the overspray is minimal, and you don't waste as much paint, either.

I attached the badges and trap door this morning, then spent the rest of the day re-installing the engine. It's really nice just having the engine back in the frame, and even though there's still a bit of work to do before I can fire it up and tear up some miles, I'm happy that it's looking like a bike again. All going well, next weekend will see it finished and ready for the road! Cheers, Terry. ;D





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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2008, 03:17:54 AM »
Thanks mate, I re-fitted the chain, sprockets, wiring, and carbs today, and touched up the headers on my old Supertrapp pipe, so tomorrow, (fingers crossed) it may well run again, after 3 years of slumber in it's dusty abode............... Wish me luck! ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2008, 07:21:42 PM »
i have set of really garish side covers and fender... when i collect the shipping dough i may send them your way.   ;) :D

that is perfection terry, obviously aided by a few beers. 

Heffay,

Shipping 2 side covers to OZ is $18. Or in Terry's case it was NC (a favor to a friend).

RX... you out of the loop, man... oh wait, you were never in on the INSIDE joke!  haha... cheers, geoff  ;D
how was that terrypersonation?   :D
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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2008, 06:52:11 PM »
hello. very helpfull. I'm doing my tank and side panels now. 550f. i have a question about thickness of a "coat". i etched and primed the tank. 600g wet sanded the filler cap lid (for practice) and with very little sanding i went through the primer coat to the etch coat. now I'm wondering how much more top coat i would have to layer so i don't go through to the color when i wet sand. I'm using spray cans from pep boys, on the cheap. multiple cans or am i sanding too much? or other reasons? thanks!

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« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2008, 01:05:08 AM »
G'Day Mate, well asking how "thick" a coat of paint is, is akin to "How long is a piece of string", ha ha!

The main thing to remember is that the only reason that you're sanding the tank at all is to "flatten" the primer/paint for either another coat, or in the case of clear top coat, (if used) to prepare for buffing.

The beauty of spray cans is that they spray a very fine coat compared to the volume of paint you would apply in one coat from a HVLP or high pressure spray gun. The bonus here, is that the finer you coat it, the less opportunity you'll have for runs and sags, but conversely, the easier it is to rub through.

My advice, for what it's worth, is to build each layer with several coats allowing 20 minutes or so @ 60 degrees F, between coats. Allow each layer (etch primer, primer, color coat, clear coat etc) to dry for a minimum of 6 hours, or preferably, overnight.

Only rub back enough to flatten each layer, and if you do happen to rub through to the substrate, touch it up with the appropriate finish, and allow it to dry accordingly.

As you can see from my pics, rattle cans certainly have their place in our world, but like most things, patience, and attention to detail are two very important personal qualities that will determine the finished product.

I have neither quality, but over the many years, and many disasters that I have been responsible for, I have taught myself to be patient, and not to cut corners, at least when it comes to painting. Have fun! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Terry's F2 tank rattle can respray.
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2008, 05:50:26 PM »
what brand paint did you use
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« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2008, 05:56:57 PM »
I used an Aussie brand from a company called "Paint n Plate", but I think they've gone bust because I can't bring up their website.

I believe that the House of Kolor in the US sells candy's in rattle cans though. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2008, 07:30:31 AM »
Terry, your old F2 is looking sweet man! My buddy who bought my old F2 has been restoring it along the way so I just sent him pics of your bike because redoing the tank and new side covers is his next move as well. We'll just call it a little inspiration.

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« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2008, 10:42:01 PM »
Thanks Wheely, I'm just "terry" on that site, but I'm spending more time there than here at the moment as my 1980 GS1000E "restification" is coming along nicely, although slowly, at the mo. I'll see you there! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)