thanks for the tip i should of ordered the seals too ,do the seals get damaged when i remove the bearings?,i just came back from the Honda dealer,didn't want to go there but they are not too far from me, part# 96140-63050-10 ordered the two which are identical, the bearing in the carrier still looked clean so i didn't order that one, now the pain of removing them, I first knock out the retaining ring by drilling out the staked marks and then press the out from opposite side?,my buddy has the tool for removing bearing i'll visit him if i can't do it,was thinking of using a concrete expanding bolt or socket to punch them out