Topic: Who said Scooters are gay?

[Gordon]

I wouldn't call that an scooter. Maybe a moped.

A moped has pedals like a bicycle.  That's where the "ped" part comes from.

[Gordon]

I call Shenanigans.  I thought mopeds were like skateboards with handles and little motor on back.

Nope, that's also called a scooter, or motor-scooter.

[loonymoon]

Serious/pedant mode..

I think these days the definition of scooter is blurred. I think originally scooter was used to describe a motorcycle where the engine moved up and down with the rear wheel and formed part of the rear swing arm. Other lesser aspects of it being as scooter were that it had footboards instead of pegs and a step through frame, regardless of the size of the wheels. The Honda C90 does not have the engine mounted on the swingarm and is therefore not a scooter.. Most scooters to this day conform to these basic rules, though some do not..

In this case the Gp800 (and Yamaha tmax) are not classical scooters despite both looking like them, with at least a semi step thru frame and foot boards, as both have the engine mounted in the frame, not on the swing arm like a traditional scooter.

[kghost]

Can we agree its not a motorcycle? 

[loonymoon]

 

It's a step-thru.

[Gordon]

Can we agree its not a motorcycle? 

That's exactly what I was about to say!

Basically, if there's any question, at all, about whether something is a scooter or a motorcycle, then it's a scooter.  Everybody knows a motorcycle when they see one.  Scooters are the ones that exist in the the grey area. 

[loonymoon]

Yup scooters are becoming more and more grey...

the colour schemes these days are so boring...

[Gordon]

Here's on that's marketed more toward my demographic!

[754]

It is a motorcycle.. stepthrough..look at the wheel size..

I didnt think that my Cimatti Citybike was gay.. but it was a bit lesbo, now that I think about it

Sure kicked ass on the kids at the vintage track with it & I had 200 lbs on them..LOL..

Heres one they have in Europe that will further stir the pot...they have mokicks..plural

[Raul CB750K1]

I wouldn't call that an scooter. Maybe a moped.

A moped has pedals like a bicycle.  That's where the "ped" part comes from.

That was true at the beginning. The idea was that they were a bicycle with an engine to assist pedaling, hence they didn't have to pay taxes or need a licence or insurance. Owners used to remove the pedals altogether, and finally, manufacturers didn't even install them. But the word "moped" comes from "motorcycle" and "pedal". The spanish word is "ciclomotor", where "ciclo" comes from "cycle", that is bicycle with motor. But the legal definition of "ciclomotor" doesn't have to do with the size of the wheel or the fact that they have pedals or not. For spanish laws, ciclomotor is anything under 50 cc irrespective of the vehicle layout. Under that definition, a Cub -100 cc- is a moped by english definition, but not a "ciclomotor" by spanish definition. The same goes for some scooters -mainly italian- that are identical in everything but engine displacement, generally in both 50 cc and 125 cc -125 cc is the limit for the lower permit class, from 16 years-. They are very popular...... for being stolen to get their engines out and swapped into a 50cc model.

[Gordon]

Two wheels + motor + step-through = Scooter

[nickjtc]

So, is a trike a motorcycle? And does it matter which end the two wheels are.....?

[754]

Let me put it another way..

Up here in BC, it is a motorcycle because it has wheels over 10 or 12 inches (one of those is the break). Up here the exception to that rule is a moped..if it is under 50cc and capable of 50 kph (30.5mph) or under.

A whizzer up here is considered a limited power motorcycle because it is over 50 cc.

[kghost]

So, is a trike a motorcycle? And does it matter which end the two wheels are.....?

NO what matters is two wheels and only two

[fuzzybutt]

ok heres a question, if scooters are gay, how gay would a scooter with clubmans be?

[Gordon]

So, is a trike a motorcycle? And does it matter which end the two wheels are.....?

Uh, what part of "two wheels" was unclear?

[Gordon]

ok heres a question, if scooters are gay, how gay would a scooter with clubmans be?

Pair the clubmans with rear-set floor boards and you'd have yourself a pretty damn gay scooter there. 

Of course, I'd still ride it....

Someone with good photoshop skills needs to get on this one, STAT!

[nickjtc]

So, is a trike a motorcycle? And does it matter which end the two wheels are.....?

Uh, what part of "two wheels" was unclear?

I hear you. But if you ask any of those tricyclists out there they will cling to the belief that they are 'bikers' too.

Tricyclist....that sounds a bit gay too. Visions of the toddler on their first wheeled vehicle with the big front wheel being furiously pedalled up the street.....

[TwoTired]

3 wheeled vehicles are licensed as motorcycles in California.

If you attach a side car to a CB750, then it is no longer a motorcycle in the eyes of forum members?

How long will it be before an SOHC4 modded to a cafe racer style, gets a side car attachment? 

Hmm, I've got a couple of spare bikes....

 

[kghost]

3 wheeled vehicles are licensed as motorcycles in California.

If you attach a side car to a CB750, then it is no longer a motorcycle in the eyes of forum members?

How long will it be before an SOHC4 modded to a cafe racer style, gets a side car attachment? 

Hmm, I've got a couple of spare bikes....

 

You can take a sidecar off....try that on a trike

[siter81]

The only way scooters are OK is when you are drinking with the local BMW heads and jumping speed bumps with it?At night with a towel as a cape?Chasing  a rabbit through the church parking lot on it? in between speedbump jumps and beers.Great Fri night sillyness.








Siter81      

[SEBNN]

Couldn't help thinking it after watching the video.  To answer the question, scooters are gay and so are their riders.  Notice how much trouble he was having getting it up and keeping it there even with a non-fat chick helping  .  There, I've said it so someone else doesn't have to. 

I've actually associated riding a scooter as comparable to a self-neutering using a spoon.  Sorry to the scooter riders out there, but the biggest laugh I ever had relating to motorcycles was the picture in one of my bike mags from Italy with a scooter test driver in full race leathers and helmet attempting to drag a knee while going around a curve on a 50cc scooter (technically I believe the scooter in the magazine was a step through ).

[754]

Real men are not afraid to ride a moped or scooter..

The other pussies are so woried about what others say or think that they wont ride one..

[tramp]

#$%*ing dumbasses

Yeah but that chick has balls 

that a no kidder
she is definitely brave

[Chris Schneiter]

Chick standing up on seat.... Makes me really miss Indian Larry! Now, HE wasn't GAY! (and who would care if he was?)