Author Topic: bike with no title (Read 2015 times)

cb650 bobber · « **on:** March 26, 2008, 12:24:00 PM »

I found a guy that has bike his buddy had it has no title.my brother in law wants it as he has a harley that he hasnt been able to get to run....hahahahha dont worry i jab him every chance i get....besides getting a new title for it which i hear is a pain in the hump. what else could I do...switch frames any ideas would be awesome.

Triffecpa · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2008, 12:42:37 PM »

>>what else could I do...switch frames

with the Harley?

TR

Geeto67 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2008, 01:07:30 PM »

first off what kind of bike is it?

since all you have said is it doesn't have a title - here is where I will start: WALK AWAY. if it is 1977 and newer it will generally be a pain in the arse to get a title for even through a title company. I had a 1977 GS750 I couldn;t find a frame for or get a title for through a title company (I could mechanics lein the bike). I ended up buying a complete but Ratty 1978 GS750 and just transferred all my good parts. PRe 1977 and there are some states (like maine) that can help you out with registration.

yes you could swap frames if you can find a frame with a clear title.
Yes you could get a mechanics lein on it and get a new title.
Or you could part it out on ebay and fund your own project.

cb650 bobber · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2008, 01:51:05 PM »

not with the harley with some donor frame. not sure what bike it is yet...guy just knows it is an old honda and said I could have it for free he wants it out of his yard.

Geeto67 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2008, 02:47:55 PM »

It pays to find out what it is - if he gives you an old sandcast then parting that out will more than pay for a good running later cb750. If it is a honda cb400t hawk...well...lets just say it isn't worth much.

In NY the no title thing doesn't scare me away from 1972 or earlier bikes since all you need to register one is a bill of sale (no title needed) and you get a transferrable registration as proof of ownership. Anything past that and it is pretty much parts though.

Aaron J Williams · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2008, 03:15:32 PM »

I guess I have always been of the opinion that a free bike is worth taking unless it's miles and miles away and buried under a big junk pile. That's probably why I have sooo many junk bikes laying around.

Geeto67 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2008, 03:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Aaron J Williams on March 26, 2008, 03:15:32 PM

I guess I have always been of the opinion that a free bike is worth taking unless it's miles and miles away and buried under a big junk pile. That's probably why I have sooo many junk bikes laying around.

I used to have that opinion until I recieved 3 cb400T hawks in a row followed by a kz400. Got rid of the hawks, still can't get rid of the kz400. There are some bikes that are free just because really nobody wants them. cb400 hawks are like that, you can buy a really nice one for $600 bucks if you look so what is less than nice worth?

tomkimberly · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2008, 07:29:10 PM »

Title issues depend on which state or country you live in. Where are you?

Tom

merc2dogs · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2008, 09:56:42 PM »

Reading PA.

not sure what the title laws are like there.

Ken.

Cvillechopper · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2008, 03:57:54 AM »

Almost all states have a process for titling an abandoned vehicle. In VA, you have to pay $8 to DMV to have them run a vehicle title history report. The last person to have the title will be on there with their last know address. You then have to pay the US Post office about $6 to send a certified, signature receipt, letter to the person listed on the report. In the letter you have to include the VIN, your address (or address where the bike is located) and state your intent to title the vehicle. If you get no response within 30 days of the signature receipt or if the letter is returned as undeliverable, you take a copy of the letter you sent, the signature receipt card, the title history report, and $10 to DMV and get a title in your name.

The risk: old owner is still there and wants their bike back. They don't have to give you a dime so don't put any $$ into the bike until you have the title in hand.

Good luck.

Aaron J Williams · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2008, 06:20:36 AM »

Quote from: Cvillechopper on March 27, 2008, 03:57:54 AM

The risk: old owner is still there and wants their bike back. They don't have to give you a dime so don't put any $$ into the bike until you have the title in hand.

Listen to the voice of experience.

cafe750 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2008, 06:25:56 AM »

I just went through this in WA with a XS650. I took it as trade, but before I did, I had a cop friend of mine run all of the numbers, to make sure I wouldn't have any problems with potential PO's. I got lucky in the fact that there was no owner on record, so I didn't have to send any letters. I got the bike inspected with the State Patrol, and they gave me a slip of paper to take to the DMV, where I then get a license plate, and registration. The only real kicker is that I don't get a title until 3 years have passed...

goon 1492 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2008, 06:49:00 AM »

Quote from: cafe750 on March 27, 2008, 06:25:56 AM

I just went through this in WA with a XS650. I took it as trade, but before I did, I had a cop friend of mine run all of the numbers, to make sure I wouldn't have any problems with potential PO's. I got lucky in the fact that there was no owner on record, so I didn't have to send any letters. I got the bike inspected with the State Patrol, and they gave me a slip of paper to take to the DMV, where I then get a license plate, and registration. The only real kicker is that I don't get a title until 3 years have passed...

+1 always have the vin checked by the cops or better the highway popo, do this BEFORE taking posession of it. There is always ITS, international title service, that is what i'm doing for my bike, it was a storage unit find, that at one time was taken posession of by the renter not making payment. Mine has been out of the system so long there isn't even a record of it any more, already been run around by the dmv and department of revenue (i'm in missouri) and got nowhere. I have another post about ITS that i will update as soon as i can get my but in to get a permit, its the only thing holding me up because I have to have a permit in missouri to get insurance. Proof of insurance is one of the things needed to go through ITS. Here is their address.
http://www.its-titles.com/74price.htm

S-Dog · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2008, 06:56:10 AM »

I am bummed because I have a 1975 and it needs to be 74 and older. My buddy(the previous owner) bought the bike but never registered it... Then he lost the Title (with the previous owners info) GRRRRRRR>

cb650 bobber · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2008, 07:17:12 AM »

has anyone gone through the title process in pa

Cvillechopper · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2008, 07:21:30 AM »

40 seconds on google

http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/prose/lib/prose/packets/involvehicletrans.pdf

cb650 bobber · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2008, 09:01:29 AM »

sounds like it might be a parts bike at best since getting a title for it would be a hard process unless it has nice parts then maybe get a parts bike and make one nice bike.

Cvillechopper · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2008, 09:07:03 AM »

The process doesn't sound THAT bad, but it is more involved than in VA.

goon 1492 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2008, 09:13:27 AM »

Quote from: S-Dog on March 27, 2008, 06:56:10 AM

I am bummed because I have a 1975 and it needs to be 74 and older. My buddy(the previous owner) bought the bike but never registered it... Then he lost the Title (with the previous owners info) GRRRRRRR>

no its for all years, sorry i gave your the wrong page when you click on ITS go to the home page and go from there.

cb650 bobber · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:42:04 AM »

guess i have to wait till tonight I am going to look at it see if it is worth picking up.

PxTx · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2008, 12:14:48 PM »

Yeah, if you know who's name the bike was last titled in, they can apply for a duplicate title. If you don't any decent auto tags place can look it up for you. If you don't want to go that route, broadway title works. They are more expensive since yo have to pay theri fee, and then you get paperwork to apply for a PA title which also costs money. Getting the original title owner to apply for a dup is less than $40. Broadway is about $125, plus PA fee of about $75 for out of state.

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