Sorry Slow but I still don't believe those HP numbers mate. Since we started this conversation I have been reading up on big HP Harleys and most if not all I came across running close to those HP numbers were running high comp Alcohol engines or were running superchargers or turbo's in big money engines and most were track bikes........
Here's a quote from a 62 year old guy on a Harley forum discussing someone bragging about getting 200HP out of a street ridden Harley...
"I have GPE 154 CI and it was supposed to make over 200hp and the best dyno pull its ever done was 177, and thats on Race gas with 2inch primary exahust tubes feeling into a 4 inch straight collector. And no its not a street motor, so anyone saying they are making 200 on a street Harley is on the crack"
I don't know a great deal about Harley engines but one thing I do know is that it takes sh1t loads of money to even come close to making that much HP on a Harley, lots more to make it reliable, daily ridden, I doubt it. I have been listening to guys brag about their big HP cars and bikes for years, even had a guy tell me of his huge HP engine in his car, when i asked how her came to the numbers he said he had added up the manufacturers projected "improved" HP numbers like, air cleaner 5HP, exhaust 15 hp, computer 20HP, and so on, he added all these parts proclaimed hp improvements together to come up with an astronomical HP number that was completely stupid and not even close to what he actually had, we all got a good laugh out of that one...
Gentlemen,
I have made the mistake of doubting my brother's word a few times. Each time, to my own embarrassment. It's funny that you say huge money, but he was a professional racing engine builder for years, and also built some of Don Proudfoot's best custom Titans. As such, it's his time that others paid huge money for, and this engine has swallowed, literally, hundreds of hours of his time, and ample perseverance. This particular engine has been under development for a long time, it's not simply thrown together because a manufacturer has claimed gains. As I mentioned to you guys previously, This has been a long evolution. Not every step showed gains. The last one did, and fair ones, at that. None the less, I totally understand that you feel dyno sheets are the proof of the pudding, but many of us know that there are a lot of exaggerated dyno numbers, as well. Still, it would establish a better basis for conversation, and I totally get that.
Please don't confuse my brother, a man for whom, especially in this arena, I have tremendous respect, with some twat whose understanding of the internal combustion process is limited to adding aftermarket parts manufacturers claims; it's a bit insulting.
Lastly, allow me to address one point. WHO THE #$%* SAID HE RIDES IT DAILY??? This is a racing machine, dressed up as a road bike!!! Even in earlier iterations, it won plenty of dyno drags.
Anyhoo, if he blesses me with a dyno sheet, I'll most happily share it with you guys. Personally, I think the damn thing would be awesome anywhere over the 176HP it was at, last time around.
Best,
B.