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How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« on: April 09, 2008, 06:24:52 PM »
How to remove a stripped allen bolt


1. Hammer a torx (star) bit into the stripped allen bolt hole.
2. turn (in short bursts...not constant pressure)
3. drink
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 06:31:39 PM »
Good tip mate, obviously if the head was "proud" of the surface you'd just grab it with some locking pliers and turn it.

I've previously ground the next size larger allen key down at an angle and hammered it in like a wedge for similar results, but of course, it buggars a good allen key. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 06:38:29 PM »
yeah but this was on the forks.  I couldn't even get my ezouts to reach it.  I like the allen bit trick.
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 09:13:16 PM »
Yeah, the worse thing with forks is that due to the head of the screw being a pretty tight fit anyway, the "Steel to alloy" electrolysis can make it almost impossible to get that bugger out.

I've previously drilled the head right off one, and that worked ok too. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2008, 05:43:51 AM »
To avoid the electrolysis,I have for many years now had a policy;no bolt installed without copper anti-seize.This includes auto wheel nuts that the OEM's say to install dry.I torque em,drive,check again.Never has a nut loosened.Rock On
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 06:13:05 AM »
Quote from: City Boy on April 10, 2008, 05:43:51 AM
To avoid the electrolysis,I have for many years now had a policy;no bolt installed without copper anti-seize.This includes auto wheel nuts that the OEM's say to install dry.I torque em,drive,check again.Never has a nut loosened.Rock On
+1 spent years working on coaches and the diesel mechanics swear by the stuff, not a nut or bolt gets put in without a smear of it
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 06:19:50 AM »
If this is the notorious allen bolt at the base of the fork slider in the axle holder, loosen it while the forks are still assembled. Better yet, use a racheting strap to compress the fork and then turn the allen bolt. Heat helps too.

One of the best tools for removing old screws is an impact screwdriver. Paid $5.00 for mine and has save much time, money, effort and countless "easy out" screw removers. Trash the old screws and replace them with anti-seize covered allen screws.
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 07:09:20 AM »
The innards of the fork turning wasn't a problem.  I left the fork assembled while removing the bolt.  I will pick up some antisieze I've been meaning to for a while now.

I used an impact driver...no effect.  I also used a pneumatic impact driver.  Oh I used a heat gun on it too.  Seems it was destined to strip.

I've actually never successfully used my impact driver...I wonder if I'm doing something wrong.

Off the top of anyones head do you guys know the specs on that bolt (or how I can find them out)?  I'm going to pick one (or two) up today
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 05:30:08 PM »
Off the top of my poor old muddled head, I think it's an 8mm x 1.25 thread Paul, (check the parts manual in the FAQ section) make sure you get some nice new copper washers to avoid any fork oil leaks too. Cheers, Terry. ;D 
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 09:42:24 PM »
I don't know what copper washers you are talking about?  Is there a copper washer press fitted into that hole that I haven't found yet?

I couldn't find a bolt with a shoulder like the one that came out of the fork.  The more I think about it the less I think it will work without the shoulder.  I'm not positive but I think the split washer that goes on the bolt sits against that shoulder...That sucks cause I'm outta places to get that bolt.  I went to every auto parts place and hardware store in a 30minute radius....I even went to the dealership.  Not sure what I'm gonna do if the shoulderless bolt won't work.
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 02:49:44 AM »
Yeah mate, there should be a copper washer to seal the oil in, but if you're using new bolts, you should use new washers too, or as a "down and dirty" fix, smear some Threebond 1194 around the threaded portion closest to the head of the bolt to seal the oil in.

You might need to go to an engineers supply to get some bolts like the OEM ones. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 11:30:58 AM »
I just took a look at the fiche and all I see is the split washer...no copper gasket like on the exhaust.  Am I missing something?
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 04:58:05 PM »
I don't have a parts manual in front of me mate, but are you saying there's a split washer, aka, a spring washer?

I've never seen one on CB750 forks, but if you're talking about a 550, you'll have to excuse my ignorance of the model. The 750's have a copper washer to seal the oil in. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 05:06:16 PM »
Quote from: Terry in Australia on April 11, 2008, 04:58:05 PM
I don't have a parts manual in front of me mate, but are you saying there's a split washer, aka, a spring washer?

I've never seen one on CB750 forks, but if you're talking about a 550, you'll have to excuse my ignorance of the model. The 750's have a copper washer to seal the oil in. Cheers, Terry. ;D


The Parts Manual calls it "WASHER, SPECIAL, 8MM" with part number "90544-283-000".  I'm not so familiar with 550's either, but I can't remember a split washer being stock anywhere on a 750.

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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2008, 05:28:05 PM »
There is no copper washer on the Allen bolt in the bottom of my 550's forks.  I can't swear that they're supposed to be like that (14 previous owners), but they dont leak :)



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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2008, 05:28:37 PM »
I again am forced to apologize.

It is a copper washer and it is not a split washer.  I apologize for making you look it up cause I was too sure of my self to take a second look.

In any case I have ordered new bolts, washers and a set of gaskets for the oil removal bolts (even though they don't leak).


Thanks again.  Hopefully I'll look before I question you guys again.

EDIT: there is suppose to be a copper washer there crispyduck...
« Last Edit: April 11, 2008, 05:32:34 PM by 76 cb550 »
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2008, 06:01:34 PM »
Don't beat yourself up Paul, there are guys here who make mistakes all the time! (not me of course...............)  ;D
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2008, 06:51:23 PM »
so....who's paul?

I'm not beating myself up too much...just trying to be humble when I make a mistake so that your more willing to help me in the future.  Hmm is being humble for selfish reasons still a good thing?


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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2008, 08:49:24 PM »
You missed the subtle irony of my reply mate, but what the hell, subtlety is over-rated, ha ha!  ;D
« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 01:31:48 AM by Terry in Australia »
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2008, 04:07:09 AM »
Quote from: 76 cb550 on April 11, 2008, 05:28:37 PM
EDIT: there is suppose to be a copper washer there crispyduck...

Typical ::)

Oh well, I need to take the forks apart anyway :)

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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2008, 11:08:02 AM »
Ah.  I see.  Now that I'm looking for it it's obvious =)

Crispyduck: typical is the right word.  I'm amazed at the number of tiny parts that have gone missing on my bike over the past 30 years and god knows how many owners.
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2008, 08:37:57 AM »
Quote from: 76 cb550 on April 09, 2008, 06:24:52 PM
How to remove a stripped allen bolt


1. Hammer a torx (star) bit into the stripped allen bolt hole.
2. turn (in short bursts...not constant pressure)
3. drink
I wanted to say thanks for this little bit of tech.  I used it this weekend to remove a stripped out grub screw that had been giving me the fits.
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Re: How to remove a stripped allen bolt
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 01:32:42 PM »
crispy duck...that washer may be hiding at the top of the bolt.  I thought I was missing the washers that went on the frok oil drain bolts but they were just stuck at the very top of the bolt. 

Maxx:  I'm really glad that I was able to help you out there.  I love hearing how my frustration has made life easier for others.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 07:11:26 PM »
I want Maxx's points cover! ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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