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lazyguy400F

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Re-doing POR15 tank liner
« on: April 15, 2008, 03:46:00 PM »
     Anyone have any experience stripping out an old POR15 job with their heavy duty kit? I did mine a few years ago and must have screwed it up and not dried the tank enough or something, because large areas are starting to bubble up. 

     Is POR15 still the way to go, (it was rust and a few pinholes), or are gas additives, etc. making things more complicated? And does the nuts'n'bolts method help with final adhesion, or do I just stick in the hair dryer for two days instead of one?

     thanks for any advice...

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Re: Re-doing POR15 tank liner
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 07:14:18 PM »
Wow your the first I've heard of a POR15 gone bad....

Kreem I've seen fail and do that but not POR15.....


DO you think it rusted underneath?
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Re: Re-doing POR15 tank liner
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 07:24:35 PM »
     I think I'll try the POR15 heavy duty stripper routine, and I'll report back once I've had a look underneath the bad parts.  I don't want to touch it until I'm ready to do the re-line, as it's the only tank I've got, and no tank, no ride! :( :(

     

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Re: Re-doing POR15 tank liner
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 11:16:22 PM »
I just kreemed a tank that I modified... it had been coated badly by the PO.

This is what I learned:
1. POR and Kreem are the samething.  But POR15 comes with a little more of the fluoroelastic polymer part, so is easier to use.
2. What every you do, don't let the tank dry out after the final rinse... it will flash rust and you won't get proper adhesion.
3. Give it two coats... I found my first coat very thin in areas, and I've seen tank liners flake up in the thin areas.

I'm not sure about POR15, but my 5gal tank needed two bottles of the Kreem liner part in order to give it two coats.  You can buy them separately.  When you are doing the final rinse, just pour the MEK in and swish it about quickly, pour it back in the container (use a funnel) and then pour the liner in right away.  If you don't have a respirator, get one... MEK is nasty stuff.  Even if you're outdoors, the fumes will get you.

As for removing the old liner, it turned out to be harder than I thought.  I did several soaks with acetone and lengths of chain.  I soaked for 24hr periods, shaking the tanks around now and then.  A lot of the old liner came out, but where ever the coating was thick, it stayed.  After the etching step of Kreem, much of the remaining liner came out, but there were still patches.  I decided to kreem over this.  It's been fine so far, we'll see how it holds up over the long haul.

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Re: Re-doing POR15 tank liner
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 04:51:14 AM »
Peter,

Steve at hondarestoration.com and currently selling a bunch of stuff in Ashland, MA (he has now moved to NH) has a couple of CB400 tanks for sale. I saw a red one last week - that partic one may have a dent it in it but paint is very nice. Would be useful as a spare. Steve uses molasses with shaking to de-rust tanks - work for him. Contact him through his website for more info on the tanks he has.

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Re: Re-doing POR15 tank liner
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 05:57:19 AM »
Thanks, Andy- I'll check that out.
I just kreemed a tank that I modified... it had been coated badly by the PO.

I'm cursed with being my own PO- and I'm not much better now. ::) ::)

Thanks for the helpful details- hope your fix lasts.