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Offline calorchard

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Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« on: May 05, 2008, 03:56:01 PM »

 I have a 71 CB 750 all white from Honda, I bought it from a  LAPD mechanic (retired) he told me that Honda sold 9 white bikes in 71 in the USA for $1 each and LAPD bought 2 , he bought mine in 72, the bikes came stock and were modified by the police depts. mine has most of the mods. off, only the Harley handle bars and radio mount remain, the white fenders were replaced with chrome ones because they were too ugly. The frame is all white. I know Honda police have a "P" in the vin and mine does not, also the Honda police has a different spedo. I would like to sell mine ( so I can get a Vette) but would like to know it's value. I have been in contact with a collector and restorer and he sent me a few letters with some info, they are below ( bet he is a member on this forum) also here is a link to the photos. :-\  Some have said it's just a painted white bike but I do not think so. Thanks.
Cal  :-\

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p74/calorchard/750/






Hello.
 I am a collector of exceptionally rare Hondas. i am
currently finishing a restoration on a 1969 CB450P
used by the Arizona police force.   There were very few of these
made or used. 
 I am interested in your bike, and have a few
questions. First off, do you have any idea what police
force this bike was sold to, or intended for sale to.
To my knowledge California never used the Hondas.
Second, The seat and speedo. While these are
definitely correct for a '71, the police models used a
different type usually for seat and speedo. Does the
bar in front have accomodation for the lights? It
should have a single bolt mount on the let top. Lastly
the frame. The frame on these models was reinforced in
the rear. I was in Japan recently and saw a partially
restored '69 poice special at a specialty shop in
Nagoya, and got a good look at the unique features. I
am very interested in any history you have on the
bike, it helps to locate parts in the future.
 I thank you for your time, and look forward to
hearing from you.
 Sincerely,
 -C

Thank you for the information. The story sounds
plausable enough. The numbers however appear to be
standard CB750 frame and engine #'s. Would it be
possible to remove the seat and send me a photo of the
rear part of the frame? And a photo of the front crash
bar?
 I would greatly appreciate it. If this is not a real
police special, it is important that you know that
also.
 Thanks again for your time.
 Sincerely,
 -C



Thank you for the pictures.
 The thing is this bike may have been outfitted for a
police dept. There are a couple of non-stock features
on the frame, hard to really see, but definitely
noticeable. This was not a true 'Police Special' in
that they had separate vin, and eng. #'s, that were
designated CB750P-1000000, and CB750PE-1000000,
respectively. Non were ever used here, so it is quite
possible this was a customized, stock '71, sold as a
come-on to various U.S. police dept.'s. The front
crash bar is not the one that would haver been on it
for police use. The subtle thing to note is on the
frame behind it are two mounts (painted white) with 2
bolt holes in each. The rear part of the frame should
have had more re-inforcement, and more mounting points
for panier, and additional crash bar mounts.
 I am going by a '69 Japanese police special, which I
knew to be authentic, and which I examined in person
very closely. So again, this may well be a very unique
customized version, made from a regular, but modified
at the factory, production model from that year. The
'69-'70 CB750P police specials sold well elsewhere in
the world, so maybe they thought the Americans would
take to it also.
 In any case, it appears you do have a unique bike,
although you definitely want to know more of the
history. Finding out what type of siren, light combo
is of utmost importance in terms of restoration,
which, if this is what you have been told it is, is
the only way to go with something like this.
 I will do a little research, and hopefully get back
to you, though not till after the 10th.
 Thank you again.
 -C
« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 09:25:04 PM by calorchard »
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 04:08:10 PM »
I don't know anything about the police bikes but one thing that stands out is the milage. I would expect to see a police bike with more the 7xxx unless the speedo has been replaced.

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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 04:23:34 PM »
City service for less than 1 year ? could be right, but I do have an extra speedo w/ it but it has low miles on it also (45??). ???
« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 05:17:37 PM by calorchard »
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 07:08:26 PM »
I didn't notice the less than 1 year service. It is likely correct. Hope you find more info on it.

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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 07:34:31 PM »
The speedos I've seen the on Police Hondas have a second "high water mark" needle which stayed at whatever was the highest speed traveled since reset.  The second needle was  supposedly there to mark the top speed a pursuit got to.  Does your spare speedo have a second needle?
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 09:03:58 PM »
No mine is not like this one=
http://www.vf750fd.com/blurbs/brochures/cb750/cb750p2.jpg
I wish it was then it would be easy to ID.

thanks :)
 
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 09:09:48 PM »
I had a 76 Honda 750 police bike from Montreal.

I cant say wether it had "P" numbers or not, had some non Honda florrboards, and it did have speedo only.

I have a 71 partsbook, will see what info I can glean from that.
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 09:23:09 PM »
Thanks for the look 754.

If you look @ the front of my bike do you see the funky brackets on the frame between the exhaust ?? I do not see them on other 71 CB 750s ? am I right ?? I have one freak bike. ??? :-\


http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p74/calorchard/750/?action=view&current=PICT0002.jpg
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 09:28:59 PM »
I will try to remember to look in town tommorow afternoon, it is at my shop, should be something on it that the others dfont have.

 Is that your penny farthing?.. are you into balloon bikes or Whizzers?
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2008, 03:55:43 PM »
It was my high wheeler a 1880 Columbia. Sold it. Now I want to sell my CB 750 !! all my toys are leaving !! Did you get a look at your 76 ?? Thanks. :)
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2008, 08:56:38 PM »
The 76 is long gone.. I was going to look at the 71 partsbook, it has the P parts list in it, but didnt get to it today.

I am getting the feeling that  these bike were fit with any or all, of the police stuff when ordered, just depended on the PD. my 76 was a black frame.. but I do remember a local one that was white.. somewhere around 75-77.


Some of the parts in the book were a shorter seat, box that went behind seat, foot operated siren.. stuff like that..

Because of your frame brackets and paint, yours is a P as far as I can tell.
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2008, 08:39:22 AM »
From 1971 partsbook.

Engine and frame serial number for CB 750 Police models are numbered in the same sequence for CB 750 K1.

AUSTRALIA
 CB750 P-U       1068267 and higher

USA
 CB 750 P-A1     1087436 and higher


Frame part #,s
50100-300-750A....................White

50100-300-790B....................Black


Frame #s were followed by another part # in brackets, I take this to mean that the frame was similar to the other except the crashbar brakets welded to front.

Crashbars shown in the book, looked like they mounted on the brackets the OP showed on his frame.

First paragraph I am reading it as there is no difference in serial #, but that is merely my opinion (keep in mind I owned one, registered and insured & rode it, and like to think if the serial # had a P I would remember).

The US Aus numers mean that they started at those #s.

Now I found only the regular seat in the partslist, I had thought a solo was offered, but must have been thinking of the 450 or 350. Those bikes police parts are shown in the partslists I have for them.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2008, 10:40:39 AM by 754 »
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 06:08:41 PM »
more pictures, any of you guys have this on your left hand grips ??

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p74/calorchard/750/?action=view&current=Lh.jpg
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2008, 02:53:43 AM »
That doesnt look like any Honda switch i ever saw and also never seen a seperate mirror mount
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2008, 05:13:03 AM »
My department bought a 450 police model in 69 or 70 to use in funeral escorts. I remember it had a mechanical cable driven siren that nearly cut the power in half when you pulled the lever  ;D. It was driven off the rear tire like the old bike generators except that the cable was huge as was the siren.
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2008, 07:42:12 AM »
The mirror mount should also be clutch lever perch.. looks like what Honda used in late 60s.

I think with the siren option you have 2 levers on one side, and the white bike may have come with siren (often removed before resale)

I have a set of HD police switches for handlebars, they have the coolest red buttons on either side.. one says pusuit!!.. great nitrous buttons.. ;D
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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2008, 08:39:39 AM »
what year is that vette of yours?




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Re: Need help in ID my 71 CB 750 Police
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2008, 08:54:33 AM »
I am going to buy my cousins 63 roadster , now I will have another project.
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