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dtaxman

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750a no power
« on: August 20, 2005, 09:21:32 AM »
I recently purchased a 1977 750a Hondamatic.  It had been sitting for about 8 years in a basement.  I have cleaned the gas tank out.  When I took the bowls off the carbs they were really clean.  So I did not go any further with the carbs.  It starts and idels really good.  But when I shift into Low and give it gas it dies.  I have to pull the choke it keep it running when trying to ride.  Then I can only go about 20 mph.  This bike is in great shape and I know it will be fun to ride, if only it would run.  I know this has probably been addressed, but I could not find a topic on this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 750a no power
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2005, 09:52:37 AM »
Wild guess.
Is your accelerator pump working?

Have you checked the points and timing?
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dtaxman

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Re: 750a no power
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2005, 03:21:59 PM »
I have not checked the timing and do not know how to check an accelerator pump.  When it is in nuetral and you rev it up it revs but is slow to respond both when you increase and decrease.

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Re: 750a no power
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2005, 06:02:41 PM »
Doesn't the 750 have a parking brake? I'm not sure...
You may want to invest in a Clymer's manual or something, if only som that you can do some of the home-maintenance without having to spend hard earned money having someone do the easier stuff.
Also, because the bowls were clean, there are a lot of sliding parts in the carbs, as well as very small passages, and all need to be in great shape for everything to work. If you have to choke it to keep it running, and the air filter is intact, then probably fuel jets are clogged in the carbs and you have to restrict the airflow to balance the air/fuel mix.
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Re: 750a no power
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2005, 06:20:37 PM »
...try putting a new set of plugs in it...this is an easy and inexpensive thing to do, and u'd be surprised what a difference it can make.  After that if it is still running bad, I'd bite the bullet and give the carbs a good cleaning.  If you really don't want to, I can email u a contact who will clean them for about $100...
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Re: 750a no power
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2005, 06:53:56 PM »
I have not checked the timing and do not know how to check an accelerator pump.  When it is in nuetral and you rev it up it revs but is slow to respond both when you increase and decrease.

These bikes need a tuneup every 3000 miles.  If you don't where the bike is on the maintenence schedule, then you should do a complete tuneup to establish a basis.

Tuneups include:
Air filter - clean or replace
Point gap - set repleace if worn.
Timing checked/adjusted
Tappet clearance checked/adjusted
Spark plugs cleaned gapped or replaced with properly gapped new ones.
Although oil changes w/filter should occur more often it is usually done at this time, too.

The accelerator pump is the extra doo-dad hanging down from number two carb.  It has 3 screws on it.
It's function is to give an extra squirt of fuel into the intake runners and allow the engine to quickly pick up from low speed.  The device is a diaphram pump that is actuated when you twist the throttle.  There are interlinking tubes across and between the carbs so all carb throats get the shot of fuel. form the diapham pump.
The diaphram can rupture with age and this reduces or prevents that shot of fuel when you twist the grip.
 If you can see into the carb throats, perhaps with the air filter box removed, you should be able to see the throat area really wet with gas when you twist the throttle wide open.

The slow to decrease RPM complaint puzzles me.  Perhaps a vacuum leak in the intake runners, or something blocking the throttle from changing to a lower position.
Some cars have a dashpot interlink to the throttle to slow throttle closure.  This give the automatic transmission time to disengage before killing the engine when you stop the machine.  I haven't actually worked on a CB750a. So, I don't know if it is similarly equiped.

Good luck,


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dtaxman

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Re: 750a no power
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2005, 08:38:32 PM »
First of all, THANK YOU, to those you that have responded!!!

To frostypuck, yes this bike does have a parking brake.  I can do all of the easy stuff, major engine is to much for me.  I just assumed if the bowls were clean the rest would be.

To RaDiggs, the plugs that was in the bike are very clean, I didnt make sure that they are the right ones though.  I am in the KC,MO area if you know of anyone who would help.

To TwoTired, I have no clue when or if there has been a tuneup done on this bike.  Also I have only owned clutch bikes and didnt know if the slow response was because of the automatic.

Thanks for the help.
dtaxman