Author Topic: anybody have a false neutral when shifting. (Read 4141 times)

cb650 bobber · « **on:** July 19, 2007, 04:34:40 AM »

when i shift sometimes the bike goes into a false neutral and not into another gear....even from 2-3 and 3-4

edbikerii · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:10:28 AM »

I've had that happen on various bikes. I find it gets worse when the oil hasn't been changed in a while. Also, during longer rides, sometimes my shifting becomes a little lazy, so those false neutrals become more common.

del105 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:15:23 AM »

MY 550 does this on occasion if I give it a weak #$%*, generally between 2-3.

medic09 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:40:34 AM »

Quote from: edbikerii on July 19, 2007, 05:10:28 AM

I've had that happen on various bikes. I find it gets worse when the oil hasn't been changed in a while. Also, during longer rides, sometimes my shifting becomes a little lazy, so those false neutrals become more common.

+1

OldSchool_IsCool · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:21:55 AM »

I once had a false neutral light, if that's what you mean. Neutral light on when in fact it was still in gear. Glad I had a fist full of brake when I let the clutch go!!

cb650 bobber · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:24:42 AM »

it is in between gears and it is like you are in neutral for a second.until i push up agian.

malcolmgb · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2007, 09:34:15 AM »

yes me too, especially 3-4, I put it down to lazy/fast shifting, I was thinking of adjusting the linkage so lever is lower down, my ankles aren't as manouverable as they were

edbikerii - your comment about oil needed changing is interesting as mine appears to have got worse with time.

edbikerii · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2007, 09:40:23 AM »

You mean your ankles?

Quote from: malcolmgb on July 19, 2007, 09:34:15 AM

yes me too, especially 3-4, I put it down to lazy/fast shifting, I was thinking of adjusting the linkage so lever is lower down, my ankles aren't as manouverable as they were
edbikerii - your comment about oil needed changing is interesting as mine appears to have got worse with time.

martini · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2007, 10:02:00 AM »

Once in a while between 1st and 2nd on my 750

ieism · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2007, 10:12:22 AM »

Try riding my MotoGuzzi. It has 5 gears, and 7 neutrals....

I never have false neutrals on my '76 550F. But it only has 53000 miles on it, so the gearbox is probably as good as new.

Sometimes after standing in the rain it doesn't want to downshift from 2nd to 1st, but I think it's because i'm too lazy to oil the clutchcable.

malcolmgb · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2007, 10:20:10 AM »

Quote from: martini on July 19, 2007, 10:02:00 AM

Once in a while between 1st and 2nd on my 750

surely that is neutral

UnCrash · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2007, 10:23:40 AM »

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Once in a while between 1st and 2nd on my 750

surely that is neutral

I also find false neutrals if I don't shift her well.

martini · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:57:19 PM »

Quote from: UnCrash on July 19, 2007, 10:23:40 AM

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Once in a while between 1st and 2nd on my 750

surely that is neutral

I also find false neutrals if I don't shift her well.

Don't mind me, I'm not really as stupid as I sometimes sound.

cleveland · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2008, 05:35:18 AM »

Quote from: martini on July 19, 2007, 01:57:19 PM

Quote from: UnCrash on July 19, 2007, 10:23:40 AM

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Once in a while between 1st and 2nd on my 750

surely that is neutral

I also find false neutrals if I don't shift her well.

Don't mind me, I'm not really as stupid as I sometimes sound.

LOL Nice to see I am not alone.

jtb · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2008, 06:07:12 AM »

Sure does grind the gears when you kick it back in, too.

Soos · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2008, 06:36:24 AM »

I have noticed that on long rides or when the motor is running hot.
My clutch gets grabby when the motors gets running really hot, so I start shifting more slowly and deliberately after noticing the clutch acting up.
On the highway it's hard to notice, but in city driving it's obvious when the clutch starts doing that.
I live with it.

Thats on my '79cb650.

l8r

cbass*gxc · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2008, 06:50:36 AM »

Ya my 78 550 does the same thing. Say I have the bike on the rear stand and am switching gears, I have to turn the tire a bit to get it to shift. The 350 I had would switch no matter what.

uptworedline · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2008, 07:58:46 PM »

so nobody actually knows what causes this? seems pretty common...........

mattcb350f · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2008, 08:16:39 PM »

Quote from: uptworedline on May 15, 2008, 07:58:46 PM

so nobody actually knows what causes this? seems pretty common...........

Loose tolerances on the shifting drum, shifting forks and gears. All add up to false neutrals. When you get a chance to see a transmission up close on one of these bikes you will see how this can happen

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Matt.

uptworedline · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2008, 08:22:10 PM »

Quote from: mattcb350f on May 15, 2008, 08:16:39 PM

Quote from: uptworedline on May 15, 2008, 07:58:46 PM
so nobody actually knows what causes this? seems pretty common...........

Loose tolerances on the shifting drum, shifting forks and gears. All add up to false neutrals. When you get a chance to see a transmission up close on one of these bikes you will see how this can happen ,

Matt.

well that answers my question, thanks bud.

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