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Offline Chris Schneiter

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What are we becoming?
« on: October 06, 2006, 06:24:12 AM »
I find this really scary. These guys are just doing anything they want to do, and we'll eventually suffer. A lot of what has always set us apart from more animalistic cultures is that we have done the right thing...I don't hink that's true these days. Reactions? Response?

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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2006, 06:44:10 AM »
I find this really scary. These guys are just doing anything they want to do, and we'll eventually suffer. A lot of what has always set us apart from more animalistic cultures is that we have done the right thing...I don't hink that's true these days. Reactions? Response?

I believe that anytime you go by the philosophy that the end justifies the means, it will eventually come around and bite you in the ass.  People aren't paying attention to the crap that is occurring and people don't care.  It is up to us to watch our leaders and hold them accountable.  We are not doing it.  What goes around comes around.
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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2006, 06:58:15 AM »
no idea what you guys are looking at there, but i like ofreens comment about whatever it is.
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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2006, 08:36:03 AM »
Amen, Ofreen. But will we? I doubt it. So long as we can go on driving our SUVs with cheap gas and shopping we will remain a happy contented lot. As evidence I give you the simple fact that the majority of Americans believe that weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. Nobody's paying any damn attention! >:(

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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2006, 08:59:31 AM »
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the majority of Americans believe that weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. Nobody's paying any damn attention!

You would be equally shocked to find out how many couldn't even find Iraq on a map.

I forget the percentage, but it was quite startling, the number of folks who could not pick out their own state on a map of the U.S... and they can vote??
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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2006, 09:03:05 AM »
According to Brian Morton's column in the baltimore city paper, the "america tortures for freedom" act also allows the federal government the ability to arrest, and detain indefinitely without trial, any american citizen they deem an enemy combatant, even ones that have never travelled outside the country.  Between this and the patriot act, I do not see how there are still folks out there that will tell you our civil rights and freedoms have not been effected by this administrations policies.  I used to complain that clinton was a friendly fascist.  When bush was 'elected' I thought- well at least the republicans will be up front about their economic motivations and wont put a humanitarian smile on policies that do nothing but kill as they protect high level business interests. But even out in the open, the american public will not face off with its government.  A public so alienated from their governement that less than half of us vote, must feel to powerles to change the system to admit that it needs changing.  this fear of having a govrnment hat needs changing is apparently strong enough to protect these weasels.  

Still, the nazi's couldnt pass a law that could get them out of Nuremberg, so I dont think the bush admin will be able to legislate themselves out of international responsibility.  the one thing this does show is how they have made a mockery of checks and balances- "oh yeah supreme court?!  what geneva convention?!"

While we have been "bringing justice and democracy to the middle east," the terrorists have done a better job bringing military justice and totalitarianism to the USA.  If it wasnt so sickening i might be amused by the irony. 
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edit:  one of morton's sources:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-ackerman28sep28,1,1031691.story
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2006, 09:28:02 AM »
I am a citizen here because of accident.  I was born here.  I am embarrassed to be a white male in a country that voted fot Ronald Reagan and George Bush twice.  When you look back at our short history, this legislation should be no surprise. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2006, 10:40:28 AM »
You would be equally shocked to find out how many couldn't even find Iraq on a map.

And don't even ask where Canada is....?
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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2006, 12:02:14 PM »
You would be equally shocked to find out how many couldn't even find Iraq on a map.

And don't even ask where Canada is....?

It's a northern suburb of Michigan's U.P., right?  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2006, 12:09:02 PM »
It's a northern suburb of Michigan's U.P., right?  ;D

Yes, where winter is perpetual, we rub noses to say "Hi", and where we all end each sentence with "eh". Assuming we even speak English.
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Re: What are we becoming?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2006, 12:22:53 PM »
ohhhhh, you mean mexico north! 
i hear it's nice there
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2006, 12:24:03 PM »
ohhhhh, you mean mexico north! 
i hear it's nice there
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