Topic: Talk about yer lean angles...

[Jinxracing]

Damn.

[andy750]

How is that even possible!!!? Impressive!

Anyone know if its on Youtube or similar...would be great to actually see it.....

[DarkRider]

that just looks like a whole lot of pain waiting to happen.....

[cb650]

Some of the motard's is nuts!!!!  Been to a few of their races.





                           Terry

[Raul CB750K1]

Part of the weight is on the dragging boot -and maybe even in the handlebar. I guess the rider put a foot down and start leaning. With a third point of contact, a high part of the weight is not on the wheels so they don't have to trade centrifugal force for available traction. It is the only possible explanation I can think of....



.... or the picture was taken while standing still.

[medic09]

The medic in me just sees that left leg up under the handlebar, and starts thinking about how many ways that could hurt if he went down...

I don't know physics, but it looks like this is close to breaking the laws of.

[CrisPDuk]

There was a feature on that guy a few months ago in one of the bike mags over here, he's Spanish from memory, and definitely a member of the win it or bin it brigade

On a similar note, did anyone see some of the shots of Reuben Xaus at the launch of the Ducati Supermoto? Sideways bike, one knee on the ground, one arm in the air

[Raul CB750K1]

On a similar note, did anyone see some of the shots of Reuben Xaus at the launch of the Ducati Supermoto? Sideways bike, one knee on the ground, one arm in the air

I also thought about Xaus when I saw this picture!!!! I remember somebody asked for a high-res pic in a magazine and they published a link!!! Let me search for that picture..... here it is!!!

[Sam Green Racing]

    how  is that.

Sam

[ekim98]

Oh crap, wait till he learns how to ride!!!  Nothing like rubbing your face in it. Like taking a walk in the park for him I guess. 

 And I thought I was doing good when I touched a peg down on my Honda 90 way back when!!

[oldbiker]

Some years ago, an Italian World Champion road racer called Luigi Taveri was well known for wearing the makers name off the side of his tires and they said people on the outside of turns could clearly see the underside of his oil pan. Google his name for more.

[Raul CB750K1]

Some years ago, an Italian World Champion road racer called Luigi Taveri was well known for wearing the makers name off the side of his tires and they said people on the outside of turns could clearly see the underside of his oil pan. Google his name for more.

If somebody has to google "Luigi Taveri" is either very young or very new into motorcycles.... or not much interested in the "continental circus".


This leads me to a question that has been lingering in my mind for a while, and probably you oldbiker can give some help. We have seen those amazing rear-wheel controled skid of the pro-racers to take turns. American racers who had a background on dirt track racing seem to excel on that technique. The question is: is it really worthwhile? Cranking the gas mid-turn help to change the trajectory of the bike without increasing the lean angle. That seems like a good thing. But you are wearing the tires and, I feel, loosing speed. If the wheel is not rolling you are losing speed. Wouldn't it be better to choose a better trajectory that allows to maximize speed without having to skid the wheel?

[CrisPDuk]

It never seemed to slow Nicky Hayden down any in his Championship year Raul

Not as much as being given a sh!t bike to defend said championship did anyway

[oldbiker]

Raul, towards the end of the 'Manx Norton' era a lot of the top riders were 'drifting' the rear end but I can't say I saw any significant improvement in lap times. Personally I only found it useful if I had gone in a little hot and it allowed me to tighten up the turn enough to miss the outside of the track. The tyres then were not as good or controllable as they are now. We got more grip in the turns from the triangular profile tyres but I never felt really happy with the transition from upright to full lean. It was neccessary to DROP the bike in quite sharply and best speed was always obtained from smooth riding.

[toycollector10]

I ain't got my leg out, I ain't got my arse off, I'm just old school fangin' it.....

[tramp]

never raced my bikes on a track
to me, sliding is bad and can only get worse
if i get scuff marks on the knee's of my jeans, i just got really stupid
i'll lay her down but when my engine wrap hit the ground thats far enough!