Author Topic: Police CB650PZ (Read 109941 times)

fishman_Phil · « **Reply #425 on:** March 14, 2009, 12:27:19 AM »

Use a trickle charger of around 2.5amp, can be found at your Bunnings Store. The 5amp car chargers cook them up too fast and can necessitate the cap removal. Cheer ...

Soos · « **Reply #426 on:** March 14, 2009, 12:33:57 AM »

Quote from: Hush on March 14, 2009, 12:18:09 AM

Yeah but don't you have to take the tops off the battery to allow gas to escape and disconnect the positive from the circuit?

I simply make sure the kill switch is flipped so the starting circuit(and in my case the nearly 400$ dyna system) don't get fried.
Not sure it's needed, but it works for me.

My battery has a vent on the side with a drain hose.
I think I paid 20 or 30 for my tender system.
Has a 1amp and a 2 amp setting.

l8r

Hush · « **Reply #427 on:** March 14, 2009, 02:43:40 AM »

That's what I needed to hear Phil, Bunnings 2.5 amp and I don't have to flip the tops off.
Do you disconnect the battery leads from the bike or just leave them connected?
Can I attach a set of permanent leads and just hook the tender to it?

Will this work? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=207257270

mystic_1 · « **Reply #428 on:** March 14, 2009, 07:39:29 AM »

My wife and I use one of these:

The permanent pigtail is mounted on her Shadow. The 750 has battery access from the top so it's real easy to hook up the aligator clips.

The charger you linked, btw, is only 350mA or about 1/3 of 1 amp. You'll want at least a 1 amp charger if you want to top off the battery at any reasonable rate.

Don't rely on this longterm though, constant discharge/recharge cycles are bad for lead-acid batteries unless you're using a deep cycle battery that's rated for such use. Eventually your battery's ability to take and hold a charge will suffer.

mystic_1

Frankenkit · « **Reply #429 on:** March 14, 2009, 08:53:41 AM »

I use that battery tender, too, and leave those access leads on because they make for a handy spot to test battery voltage from so you can leave your seat on while doing your electrical testing. That sounds so much like what my bike does, but everything seemingly checks out alright.

fishman_Phil · « **Reply #430 on:** March 14, 2009, 11:21:05 AM »

Quote from: Hush on March 14, 2009, 02:43:40 AM

That's what I needed to hear Phil, Bunnings 2.5 amp and I don't have to flip the tops off.
Do you disconnect the battery leads from the bike or just leave them connected?
Can I attach a set of permanent leads and just hook the tender to it?

Will this work? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=207257270

Hush ... I would not use the one you have a link to (not enough current). Get one that has 1.5 to 2.5 amp. I saw a couple at the PalmNth branch of Bunnings the other week when I was on my way down to Carterton to see my son. I purchased one and he ended up getting it from me as he required one for his TRX400 Quad. It was an Arlec model. There was another there similar to those shown by other members that came with a set of leads that can be left attached to the battery. And yes, regardless of what type you use, have some permanent connections left to the battery and leave the battery attached to the bike harness when using. Several of our classic club riders do this. Cheers ...

Hush · « **Reply #431 on:** March 14, 2009, 02:45:08 PM »

Cheers Mystic,Kit,Phil........I'll check out Bunnings this week and see if I can locate one.
My partner says when i'm riding the head light is way down on brightness which leads me to believe that when the bike is running it's running off the battery and not putting back in from the alternator.
I'll do a check and clean up on the alternator and see if it's something simple otherwise I'll need Kits' formula on tracing charge/voltage.

Hush · « **Reply #432 on:** March 14, 2009, 07:35:37 PM »

Dear diary: Just had the most enjoyable ride through the country out the back of Hawke's Bay, rolling hills, valleys, climbs I really put her through her paces, grinning all the way.

Did a tour of the local coastline to finish off, got home and didn't really want to shut her down.
Bike pulls like a new one, eats hills, chased a late model rice rocket up a hill and he couldn't pull away from me, maybe he thought it was a real cop bike and didn't want the ticket? probably

No drips or leaks or hesitation, just the pure pleasure of a really decent blast up the highway.
Only down point is I had the battery on charge all night, fitted it before my ride and when I got home I tried to start again and no one home?
Ah well I guess I can't have everything.

Frankenkit · « **Reply #433 on:** March 14, 2009, 08:54:11 PM »

You can try! start doing all the testing TT made me do and find out what's not working!

Hush · « **Reply #434 on:** March 14, 2009, 10:09:30 PM »

But Kit did that work for you?

Frankenkit · « **Reply #435 on:** March 15, 2009, 07:51:25 AM »

uhhh...
I got done testing, then my carbs started piddling, then I pulled my carbs apart, cleaned them, etc, put them on and the bike started running for poo...
so I can't say I ever really was able to definitively finish my testing.

MickeyX · « **Reply #436 on:** March 15, 2009, 08:14:08 AM »

Should be able to retest soon. Kit will be learning to synch her carbs this weekend with none other than mlinder.

I think they're going to recheck the valves too since they've had time to wear in a bit.

Here's the diagram again so you don't have to go searching for it. It pretty much works for most bikes. I like it because it's easy to follow.
http://www.electrosport.com/technical-resources/library/diagnosis/pdf/fault-finding-diagram.pdf

Hush · « **Reply #437 on:** March 15, 2009, 01:29:31 PM »

Cheers Mickey will have a follow thru today.

Hush · « **Reply #438 on:** March 18, 2009, 03:38:04 AM »

Dear diary: Nothing to report, bike going like a dream, battery still dropping charge after a long ride.
Funnily enough after a while the battery seems to pick up again, this could be what Kit calls her "hot start problem"!

Hush · « **Reply #439 on:** March 21, 2009, 04:01:29 AM »

Dear diary: It's raining, I'm running out of holidays and I just had to spend 3 days away from my bike helping shift the in-laws.....truly the biking Gods hate me!
Oh yeah and just to rub salt into the wound, while out of town the riding weather was perfect and I saw hundreds of lucky riders out on the highways.........

Frankenkit · « **Reply #440 on:** March 21, 2009, 04:55:49 AM »

Quote from: Hush on March 18, 2009, 03:38:04 AM

Dear diary: Nothing to report, bike going like a dream, battery still dropping charge after a long ride.
Funnily enough after a while the battery seems to pick up again, this could be what Kit calls her "hot start problem"!

TT sez batteries gain a little charge back when they cool. maybe that's it?

Hush · « **Reply #441 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:54:04 PM »

Dear diary: Rode bike without the headlight on today, not something I like doing but a bit of an experiment and bike restarted no worries a few times on my ride so maybe my headlight is draining battery.
Noticed the front indicators are not working too....ah well them I can fix in a few moments.
Stopped to take some decent photos for the BOTM and an elderly couple walking their dog asked if a bike race was coming through soon?
I said I didn't think so, they said they thought I was on "point duty" ha ha, I explained that the bike was 30 years old and in full retirement mode from Policing duties, made them laugh too.

Bugga, holiday over and back into uniform tonight, man 3 weeks went quick, but at least I got most of the bike sorted while I was off and she is a pleasure to ride now.

Frankenkit · « **Reply #442 on:** March 25, 2009, 01:30:44 PM »

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=33102.0
Thought you'd like the police bike in the video.

Hush · « **Reply #443 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:50:25 PM »

Hard to tell what it is apart from a honda.

Hush · « **Reply #444 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:41:04 AM »

Dear diary: Been doing a little minor maintainence on the old girl today, had a dripping gas tap that required the removal of the tank so checked the plugs while I was in there and repositioned the in-line filter.
Finally bit the bullet and chopped about 2 inches off the main tank feed tube as it seemed crazy for only a 1/4 of the tank to be on the main and everything after that on reserve?
Refitted headlight, can find no fault with it even though it is German?
Must ahve hit a nerve while doing taht as indicators and neautral/oil lights wouldn't go thereafter, found a blowen fuse!
Bike has not been ridden for 3 days (no time back at work) but she had full battery charge and sfired up first push???

Hope to get some riding in this week, weather looks good and I'm off work till Wednesday, rubbish to dump tomorrow, Jaffa wants to take the boat out fishing Sunday.....hmmm Monday looking good.

Hush · « **Reply #445 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:07:05 PM »

Dear diary: Absolutely beautiful Autumn day here in Napier, had to spend an hour fixing the Nissan Sylvia as she had decided to jam up the hydrolic lifters again but that happens about twice a year and I know the routine backwards to repair her.
But finally got out to ride, had to follow a real cop for a few miles, not sure who he thought was in his mirror.
Bike made the usual protestations about being dragged out to perform but after about a mile she was on song and finding my favorite straight stretch of road I gave her full taps and became a passenger for a quick 2 miles.

Darn speedo only goes up to 80mph so once you are there it's guess work how fast you are going.
Did the highways and rural areas, along the coast and found some hills to play on, not many other bikes about and those that were seemed in a hurry to get somewhere, work must suck on great riding days like this.

Cross wind on the motorway was fun, like fighting to stay on but not gonna slow down just to improve the ride.

Note to Kit: ducking/crouching slightly so that you are just seeing over the top of screen seems to line your helmet up and cut the air a bit better in such conditions.
Could not fault the bike, no leaks no drips, the gas tank fix I did was holding, no missing at any speed and am mastering the agricultural feel of the gearbox.
Rode with headlight on all the time and still happy to start when I got home so shrugging my shoulders on that one.
All in all a great few hours in the saddle and with the weather expected to pack up tomorrow I'm glad I got that one in.

Hush · « **Reply #446 on:** March 30, 2009, 02:17:42 AM »

Stardate 30-3-09 Captains log.............additional: Chief engineer Mr Scott reports power draining from Dy-lithium crystals still, no known alien source of intervention, am beaming down with Mr Spock and sundry sacrificial security Officers to check out this phenomenon.

Dang where does the power go after such a long ride?
On any other bike the battery would be sizzling with life and the bike would fire up straight away!
Strangely enough the bike will fire up tomorrow and in 3 days time, just after a ride of any duration she seems to have this massive drain.

I wish TT owned a 650 instead of a 550, by now we would have the definitive answer to this conundrum.

Frankenkit · « **Reply #447 on:** March 30, 2009, 06:26:44 AM »

at least it's not just me.

Soos · « **Reply #448 on:** March 30, 2009, 06:57:20 AM »

I really feel sorry for you guys.

Even when I took the trip to Vegas nearly 2 years ago, I had no problem with re-starting after a couple hour stint on the bike.

Mabey I just got lucky and the electrical gremlins haven't infected my system(yet)

l8r

Frankenkit · « **Reply #449 on:** March 30, 2009, 08:55:20 AM »

Don't tell TT but I'm secretly planning on just replacing everything, one component at a time, as I have time and money. I figure new copper windings in everything will give it a much longer life.

I'd rather go with quality than cheaping out.

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Author Topic: Police CB650PZ (Read 109941 times)