Topic: So, the crotch rocket fellow left a note on my 550....

[Cvillechopper]

So lets all be adults here shall we.

Did any damage occur to hopes bike? Does not sound like it. So all this other crap about duct tape and oil and such is nothing but juvenile. He thought she parked to close. Maybe 2 feet IS too close. measure 2 feet out once, not that much room is it. A tall person could easily kick a bike by accident getting on theirs. Maybe the guy is protecting BOTh of their bikes.

So many of you are so quick to label him but hope has not even talked to him yet. 

He was a dickhead and touched her property.

How else should he do it? He does not know whos bike it is. He does not know where she works or hours. Is he supposed to wait all day long just to find out?

Armorall his seat.  It will make an interesting ride home for him.

Nice way to suggest potentially hurting someone. That is by far much worse than scotch tape on paint. If your paint comes off with scotch tape, you needed a paint job anyways.

PEOPLE GET SOME REALITY HERE!!!! HE LEFT A NOTE, HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!


I am surprised that Ed is the level headed one when usually it is the rest of you.

1.  I don't think it's the fact that a note was left that's the issue.  The note was rude and was left on a painted part of her bike.  If it was on some chrome do you think there would have been as much discussion?  The guy could have phrased his note like a decent human being but didn't.  He was a douche.

2.  Ekim didn't offend people by suggesting that it wasn't a big deal near as much as he did with his pig-headed chauvinistic comment about PMS and a concealed carry permit.  That's something you'd expect to hear in the 1950s maybe, but not today.  It's plain rude to Hope and anyone else that actually respects women.  The fact that he has yet to appologize for that remark puts him in the same category as the guy that left the note.

[kslrr]

Cville, it was not Ed who made the PMS comment, it was ekim!

[eldar]

"Don't park so close to me."

Explain to me how you can read emotion in that. What he should have said "please"?

"I don't like that." can you tell what emotion that is? No you can't. He left a note to some one he did NOT know. Maybe he showed lack of thought on WHERE to put the note but I doubt he did it on purpose to be a douche.

Where would you put a note? On the seat where the tape may not stick? Remember this is scotch tape, not a very sticky tape on most surfaces, and not even that sticky on good surfaces.

Maybe on the handlebars? maybe it could have been missed? I know, right on the headlight right? Or the tail light. Fact is the tank is the easiest to see and the best surface to use.

The other fact is that ther is NO damage.  

So tell me, how do you read emotion from so simple a note.

[upperlake04]

Eldar - you just don't have intuition     

[Cvillechopper]

Cville, it was not Ed who made the PMS comment, it was ekim!

Yes it was.  Thanks for the correction.  I'm going back to edit my post as well.

[Frankenkit]

Wow! I just watched a post go from a humorous "This guy was a d!ck!"  and responses that I read as "It'd be funny if..."

...and it went from that to people taking stuff seriously, sexism, gender debates, accusations of violence, blahblahblah.

You know what, in reality, park wherever the heck you want to.  The guy is either afraid your bike will tip over on his or maybe he's a n00b and can't maneuver his bike properly out of a parking space. 

My vote for funny ways to 'get back' would be sticking a supersized tampon in his tailpipe.  Eventually the air pressure would be enough to pop it out.. ...I think.?  I like the one abt the adhesive on the seat, too, right around where his crotch would be, just to feel weird.  Nothing about this incident warrants the strange stuff I'm seeing people posting about right now, though.  We're all adults here, right?

[eldar]

you just don't have intuition

Damn! THAT'S what I am missing!

[Cvillechopper]

"Don't park so close to me."

Explain to me how you can read emotion in that. What he should have said "please"?

"I don't like that." can you tell what emotion that is? No you can't. He left a note to some one he did NOT know. Maybe he showed lack of thought on WHERE to put the note but I doubt he did it on purpose to be a douche.

Where would you put a note? On the seat where the tape may not stick? Remember this is scotch tape, not a very sticky tape on most surfaces, and not even that sticky on good surfaces.

Maybe on the handlebars? maybe it could have been missed? I know, right on the headlight right? Or the tail light. Fact is the tank is the easiest to see and the best surface to use.

The other fact is that ther is NO damage.   

So tell me, how do you read emotion from so simple a note.

That note is a direction given by someone with no authority to tell anyone how to park.  Had it been a request (yes, a simple please would work) there would be no inference of authority.  People that assume authority over others when they have none are douches.  By the transitive property of equality, dude's a douche.

Common sense is all that's required to know you don't put stuff on other's paint.  The handlebars would have required less tape, been just as visible, and much less rude.  The guy was making a statement with his placement as much as with his words. 

[Raul CB750K1]

Just one question for Hope. You found a note saying "Don't park so close to me". I assume that when you parked the other bike was already there. Otherwise, if he parked after you, it wouldn't make sense. But what kind of sense does it make that somebody who arrives after you leaves a note before leaving? Are you sure it wasn't somebody who was not already there?

Regarding the heated comments, all the suggestions that has been made I have taken as jokes. Even when leaving sticky tape in a tank is not tactful, it doesn't ask for a worst retaliation.

If the note didn't say who it was, I would ask to the sport bike owner whether he left a note on your tank. If he say yes, I would tell him that you think it was not that close but that you don't have any trouble parking farther as long as there is enough space -which I think you will agree-, and finally, I would ask him not to use sticky tape again in painted areas of the bikes, and to talk directly like you have done instead of leaving anonymous notes. That would get his respect and give you peace of mind that at least one person in the world will look after your bike when it's parked.

[burmashave]

Man, I'm with Kitsune. I can't imagine that Hope would do any but the most innocuous of our wonderful suggestions. That's what I mean by "sport and humor." Last year, we had a thread (I can't find it) that went pages about nasty things to do to a parked bike. I have no idea what perceived slight started the thread, but it was pretty creative and definitely funny.

And although it may not rate oil under the crankcase (my meager suggestion), I do think there is a difference between "Please don't park your bike so close to mine" instead of "Don't park your bike so close to mine." For any who don't think so, try giving up emoticons in this forum. 

[burmashave]

Blast! I hate it when you pour reason and moderation upon an otherwise heated thread, Raul. ;-)

[andy750]

2.  Ekim didn't offend people by suggesting that it wasn't a big deal near as much as he did with his pig-headed chauvinistic comment about PMS and a concealed carry permit.  That's something you'd expect to hear in the 1950s maybe, but not today.  It's plain rude to Hope and anyone else that actually respects women.  The fact that he has yet to appologize for that remark puts him in the same category as the guy that left the note.

What do you suggest? Pistols at dawn to save Hopes honour?


Sounds like its not only women that have PMS....take a deep breath and walk away from the computer and go and ride 

[ekim98]

If a mod. wants to delate my post for being offense then delate away. Like I said before, the direction this post was and is going is way overboard. My response is no more sexist than the shirt she proudly has displayed on a previous post about being a B!?&^h. But since opinions are not welcome I will leave this post alone and you can plot your revenge against a fellow bike rider. Enjoy your day. ekim

[Hope]

I guess a crotchrocket doesn't have the same rights as your bike and he doesn't deserve any more space than you deem necessary. Sounds like he should be flogged and never allowed to park in the same parking
area. Maybe he should have left the note under the windshield wiper! But then we only hear your side of the story. Hope you don't have a concealed carry permit. A gun and pms is a dangerous thing, or at least that's what it sounds like.

Some of the replys I read here makes me think anger management class are in need. It's not like he knocked her bike over or took a screw driver to it!

Ekim, please read my original post where I say that I plan to handle this civilly.  I thought I clearly stated that what was on the note did not bother me as much as the fact that he stuck tape on my bike.  You are totally twisting what has been said.

The only reason I said that I am a 5'5" woman is because this guy really doesn't know who I am.  The person riding the bike could be anybody.

I live in Louisiana.  If you were a black dude on a crotch rocket you would not dare touch a rebel flag waving redneck's bike.  For all he knows, I could be  a rebel flag waving redneck.  He doesn't know who rides the bike.

Did I say I wanted to shoot him?  Why are you worried if I have a concealed weapons permit?  Most educated, intelligent people know that the majority of violent crimes committed with guns are illegal guns, not people who are licensed to carry concealed weapons.

PMS??  Maybe the guy had PMS when he stuck the scotch tape on my tank.  You are so left field on this.  You're responding as if I posted that when I found the note, I chased him down, and started screaming in his face, and  then kicked him in his shin.  All the while crying... oh boohoohoo.  PMS?  You're kidding.  I thought anyone who knew me knew I wasn't a little #$%* like that.

On the other side of the coin, I guess he is entitled to stick whatever he wants on my bike because he drives a crotch rocket?

C'mon man.

[eldar]

So A person should add a smiley face to their notes? No one adds smileys to notes so while there MAY be a difference in how you write a note, not everyone writes or reads or processes things in the same way.

Cville, maybe the person things "please" is too weak and would not get results. Just cause he did not use it, does not mean he is an a$$.It is also not a matter of common sense.

What is a crusader? You can be sure different people will have different responses. That does not mean any of them are wrong.

But lets talk about common sense. It is relative. I bet there are things you do that you think are common sense and there are things I think are common sense. That does not mean they are.

Hope, was there damage? if no, then what is the big deal?

Like I said, sure he could have picked a different place than the tank but as NO damage was done, what is the issue?

This is simple, either talk to the guy or park another foot over. Simple, direct and a person does not have to reduce themselves to a$$h0l3 status.

[Frankenkit]

Right on, Hope.

[burmashave]

So A person should add a smiley face to their notes? No one adds smileys to notes so while there MAY be a difference in how you write a note, not everyone writes or reads or processes things in the same way.
[snip]

Eldar, please read my post. In response to my post, your's makes no sense, assuming you are replying to my post.

[eldar]

It was a combo reply but does make sense. Depending on how you look at it and that is my point. It makes perfect sense to me but that does not mean it will to someone else. See what I mean.  Everyone thinks differently.

[edbikerii]

HEY!!! HEY!!! Don't forget politics!!!!  I called Eldar a commie liberal remember!!! 

...and it went from that to people taking stuff seriously, sexism, gender debates, accusations of violence, blahblahblah.

[mlinder]

This thread makes baby Jesus cry.

[Cvillechopper]

Cville, maybe the person things "please" is too weak and would not get results. Just cause he did not use it, does not mean he is an a$$.It is also not a matter of common sense.

Again, if he wants to appear strong, demanding, etc he got it right.  Of course, he has no right to demand so his strength is postured.  Please is not weak and those that think it is are also the type that cause problems to escalate quickly in many situations.  A decent person starts off nicely by asking (because they know they don't have the right to demand).  He's an ass because he 1. thinks he has the right to tell someone else what to do in a public space 2. thinks acting tough makes you right.

I never mentioned common sense in regards to the use of please.  It was used referring to the application of the tape.  The choice to use or not use please speaks to personality.

[jeffro]

This thread makes baby Jesus cry.

hahaha 

[eldar]

Maybe it does....maybe it doesnt. Do you know how he was raised or where? Hate to break it to you but there are areas where please is seldom heard. I grew up in such an area and until I met my wife, I maybe said please only rarely. That was not just me either, that was the area. In some places, politeness is common place, but not in others. You just are bound and determined to say this guy is a dick when it may not be true. Maybe it just did not occur to him to say please. It could be something as simple as that.

Besides, it is up to hope what she wants to do. If she talks to the guy and he is a disk, then I will go with that. until then, I will not think the worst of someone cause of a simple 1 line note.

[Gordon]

Besides, it is up to hope what she wants to do. If she talks to the guy and he is a disk, then I will go with that. until then, I will not think the worst of someone cause of a simple 1 line note.

The way I see it, it's not the lack of the word "please" that was the dick move.  It was the intentionally excessive use of a ten inch strip of tape when a simple one inch strip would have sufficed. 

[edbikerii]

+1, you never know, maybe the guy is just as paranoid about his bike as some of us are about ours.  Hell, I bought a house in the suburbs with a garage because I got tired of people knocking my bike over when I lived in the city.

Maybe it does....maybe it doesnt. Do you know how he was raised or where? Hate to break it to you but there are areas where please is seldom heard. I grew up in such an area and until I met my wife, I maybe said please only rarely. That was not just me either, that was the area. In some places, politeness is common place, but not in others. You just are bound and determined to say this guy is a dick when it may not be true. Maybe it just did not occur to him to say please. It could be something as simple as that.

Besides, it is up to hope what she wants to do. If she talks to the guy and he is a disk, then I will go with that. until then, I will not think the worst of someone cause of a simple 1 line note.