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Vtec-Sauce

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Few questions about my 72 CB500
« on: May 19, 2008, 01:04:14 PM »
So i want to replace my rusting stock wheels with some excel type aluminum wheels, i know nothing about lacing up  wheels so ill probably just buy the rims and spokes and have a shop put it all together for me. I want to keep the stock wheel diameter but i want to try to run wider front and back. What sizes should i order? (i dont know what size my stock wheels are,i know there stock sizes, none of that weird 16" rear business, the bike is going to be shipped to me mid month June and i want to have the wheels here ready to be laced up)

Another thing is a CR750 style tank, the long skinny tanks with depressions for your knee's and a matching small bubble tail section like the rickman, cr750's and so on. I have seen Airtech's versions but there not exactly the same shape and there site says there not good for ordinary street fuel...any recommendations?

Thanks in advance! 




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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 04:04:13 AM »
I think you'll struggle to go much wider.

The front will foul on the mudguard (fender) and rear on the swingarm - that's not to say that you shouldn't have a go.
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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2008, 05:14:01 AM »
Yeah, it's not your rim that limits your tire width, it's the space allotted by the fender/fork up front, and the swingarm/chain in the rear.

Granted, you aren't going to put 6" rubber on a 3" rim, but you aren't going to put 5" rubber in a space designed for 4.25".

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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2008, 07:10:11 AM »
The size should be stamped on your wheel rims near the stem holes. It should say something like DID JAPAN 1.85X18 meaning 1.85" wide. This is also known as a WM1 wheel. From what I can remember the 500 had 18" WM1 on both ends with 40 spokes. Your best bet - despite the cost - is Buchanan's. They know what you will need and they will help you and back up their product if there's a problem. If you're in the UK, there are equally good suppliers there. Ebay stuff might fit and might not, and there's no guarantee you can expect to be honoured. The thing with alloy rims is that most have a "depressed centre" that means stock length spokes are too long. Buchanan's will sell you a rim and spokes that will fit with your hub or replace them with the right ones if not.
Measure the clearance from the rim to the forks and brakes in front, the swingarm/chain/everything in the way in back. Figure out what tire will fit in there - the widths of tire sizes can be found somewhere. The front tire has to fit through the narrowest place - usually between the fender mounting bolts. You can cheat this a bit witha deflated tire but that's a pain.
Now you know the tire size you want, pick the rim that's best for it. This chart http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/WheelTab.htm shows the rims that work with the tire sizes. Each tire works with 3 or 4 rim widths: pick the second largest. Now see if the rim type you want is available in that size. Usually it isn't... but 40 spoke rims (ie Harley compatible) are more common that my 36 spoke ones... sigh. Anyway, pick the rim and width you like and have them drilled for your rims - if the seller doesn't know what that means buy from Buchanan's... they do. Get spokes the right length and size plus the right size nipples (see previous sentence).
There are some shops (ie Buchanan's again, Hagon, etc.) that will build your wheel for you. Just strip and clean your hub and send it: then you get a nice new wheel back assembled by an expert.

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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 03:21:05 PM »
so if i just go the OEM replacement route can i re-use my old spokes? Just clean/polish them and lace them back up with the new rim? My rims just have terrible pitted rust...

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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 01:14:08 AM »
Yes you can do that but most restorers have the old spokes replated before reassembling the wheel. Not much money and as-new looks while the wheel is apart anyway.
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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 04:51:01 AM »
Yes you can do that but most restorers have the old spokes replated before reassembling the wheel. Not much money and as-new looks while the wheel is apart anyway.

so the spokes are chromed? or are they aluminum? I thought they were aluminum because if i remember correctly mine are all oxidized. thanks for your replies!

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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 04:06:47 PM »
spokes and nipples are steel that is plated but not with chrome
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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 08:32:39 PM »
awesome, thanks

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Re: Few questions about my 72 CB500
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 01:43:10 AM »
I think they are zinc plated.
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