Author Topic: Connecting rods (Read 39904 times)

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #25 on:** May 29, 2008, 08:02:09 PM »

MRieck · « **Reply #26 on:** May 29, 2008, 08:07:38 PM »

Quote from: SamCR750 on May 29, 2008, 08:02:09 PM

You've shown "me the money" Sammy...... There's talk and then the rest....pause for long breaks and an H2O which is cheap.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #27 on:** May 29, 2008, 08:12:57 PM »

754 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 29, 2008, 08:24:07 PM »

So you are saying, that if I buy rods, you will too, but you dont even need them??

And that you buy ringsets, without even checking the widths??

Interesting..

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #29 on:** May 29, 2008, 08:27:45 PM »

dangle a little worm

Big Jay · « **Reply #30 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:45:53 PM »

Quote from: RxmanGriff on May 29, 2008, 07:14:52 PM

Jay,

You're tha man!! I'll support your ventures with whatever business I can give you or send your way. I'll take set #1 (will you autograph it for me )

Re 1000 kits - will APE do the cylinder work (resleeving and boring, etc) and make it one stop shopping?

Jerry

Yes we would do the cylinder work.

Jay

Big Jay · « **Reply #31 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:55:15 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on May 29, 2008, 07:00:18 PM

Quote from: Big Jay on May 29, 2008, 06:12:23 PM
They would be Crowers with the tool steel bolts. Good for up to 400 HP. Doubt in anyone is making more than that with a sohc.
Jay
Jay
What are your thoughts about the Carrillo "A" beams I mentioned. I understand your position BUT what about my points? As an aside....those Crowers would be a perfect piece. Good for you for stepping up to the plate.

The A beam Carrillos are made at Carrillos factory. We don't sell very many of them. I can't remember last time we installed some on a crank. They were supposed to compete with the Crowers, but are still more money.

Carrillo H beams are in a class of their own. They have always been way overkill for the Honda, but they were all we had. That is why I want to do this Crower thing.

We are one of the leading Carrillo warehouse distributors, but we also recently became a WD for Crower on the late model stuff, so That is what got me to thinking about this Honda market.

Jay

scondon · « **Reply #32 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:41:51 PM »

I'll take set #2 Jay

MRieck · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2008, 04:52:33 AM »

Quote from: 754 on May 29, 2008, 08:24:07 PM

So you are saying, that if I buy rods, you will too, but you dont even need them??

And that you buy ringsets, without even checking the widths??

Interesting..

To the first part....yes. I'll use them someday for somebody or myself. Maybe I'll build a large engine for myself.....I've got enough parts that for sure. As for the rings....if a piston takes XC's it takes XC's. Nothing to measure except ring gap. That old clunky Arias or Venolia stuff takes rings automotive stuff from the 60's that no one makes anymore. Those things weigh a ton too. Dynoman has newer big pistons that takes a ring pack that's at least from the 80's if that's what you are looking for. As for the rods and what they can handle....are you building a 600HP CB?? Hell....go for the bike record which I think is 701HP or something. 70 lbs of boost should be enough..................to blow it smithereens.

pampadori · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2008, 05:28:02 AM »

there is a 699hp sohc out there? or are you saying 701 would take the cake for any motorcycle? i'm pretty sure there have been motorcycles with more the 700hp. we've got a few 600hp bikes in my town of 250,000 so i'm sure someone somwhere has broken the 1000hp mark.
just curious.
does Eagle make anything for the 750? i used eagle h beams in a engine i built and only paid around $375 for the set of 4. they held up to 800hp on a friends motor, so i wasn't so worried about the "get what you pay for" thing. Eagle just seems to be much cheaper then other brands, but i still think you would have a hard time breaking one even with big power.

MRieck · « **Reply #35 on:** May 30, 2008, 05:52:03 AM »

Quote from: pampadori on May 30, 2008, 05:28:02 AM

there is a 699hp sohc out there? or are you saying 701 would take the cake for any motorcycle? i'm pretty sure there have been motorcycles with more the 700hp. we've got a few 600hp bikes in my town of 250,000 so i'm sure someone somwhere has broken the 1000hp mark.
just curious.
does Eagle make anything for the 750? i used eagle h beams in a engine i built and only paid around $375 for the set of 4. they held up to 800hp on a friends motor, so i wasn't so worried about the "get what you pay for" thing. Eagle just seems to be much cheaper then other brands, but i still think you would have a hard time breaking one even with big power.

701 is for a busa streetbike. That's the last dyno # I heard about after a big shootout. It could be higher now.Top fuel "bike" engines make what...1,200 or so? Maybe more.
I've never seen Eagle rods for a CB. I'm sure the primary cahins or cam chain tensioner would let go long before a rod (as long as the oil system is intact)

andy750 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 30, 2008, 07:12:11 AM »

Quote from: pampadori on May 30, 2008, 05:28:02 AM

we've got a few 600hp bikes in my town of 250,000 so i'm sure someone somwhere has broken the 1000hp mark.
just curious.

Do you live in the same town as Ghostrider?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Ghostrider-GETAWAY-IN_3194.htm

Here is the 1000 bhp bike....

http://www.gizmag.com/go/6762/

Big Jay · « **Reply #37 on:** May 30, 2008, 09:22:21 AM »

Quote from: pampadori on May 30, 2008, 05:28:02 AM

does Eagle make anything for the 750? i used eagle h beams in a engine i built and only paid around $375 for the set of 4. they held up to 800hp on a friends motor, so i wasn't so worried about the "get what you pay for" thing. Eagle just seems to be much cheaper then other brands, but i still think you would have a hard time breaking one even with big power.

All of the Eagle stuff is Chinese. Rods, cranks, etc.

Top fuel dragbikes like the APE equipped Spiderman, are putting out near 1300 h.p.

Jay

pampadori · « **Reply #38 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:35:14 AM »

hahaha, no i live in a little town called Roanoke Va. we have one guy with 2 turbo busa's. on is right at 600whp. they other is pretty much the same but with a 75 shot on top. we have lots of fast cars and bikes here, mostly because there isn't much else to do for most people here other then find hobbies. the guy with two does construction work or something. i'm in the wrong field....

here is the story on Eagle rods. Eagle themselves goes to the US steel market and bids on steel there. they test it before and after the metal is melted to make sure its what it is suppossed to be. ie 4340 or whatever the numbers are to tell what type of metal it is.

it is also all virgin metal. none recycled or reused.

they then ship it to china where it is forged. it comes back almost completely done. Eagle cuts and finishes the big end of the rod for its individual application.

how does china make everything?! they make eagle rods right next to Little fisher price toys.

i don't like my money going over there if i can help it. but damnit, we don't make anything in the US anymore, and if we do, its 400% more then overseas so you feel like you are getting ripped off.

754 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 30, 2008, 07:22:20 PM »

BTW Jay, Thanks for thinking of us guys and working on making some stuff for us guys..

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #40 on:** June 01, 2008, 08:55:05 PM »

OK guys, here's the list of purchasers so far. Ante up and I'll add your name.

Space #5 just opened up. Who wants it?

(1) Jerry Rxman Griffin
(2) Mike Rieck
(3) 754
(4) Lord Moonpie
(5)
(6) Voxonda
(7) Metalhead
(

SCondon
(9) RickyRacer

MODERATOR - How about keeping this at the top of the post until we get our minimum order?

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #41 on:** June 02, 2008, 01:20:06 PM »

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #42 on:** June 02, 2008, 01:22:06 PM »

and what a cool guy he is to

...perhaps I'll be number (8 ) one day

Sam.

scondon · « **Reply #43 on:** June 02, 2008, 02:41:42 PM »

Jerry's a pretty (

guy to stick me at #8. You will always be (1) Sam, even when you look like (2)

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #44 on:** June 02, 2008, 03:54:07 PM »

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #45 on:** June 02, 2008, 05:59:22 PM »

I couldn't get the number 8 between the 2 brackets!? It kept coming ip that way?! Damn computers.

Sam,

I can make you number 8 if you wish BUT YOU NEED TO BE ON THE ROD LIST!! (

JLeather · « **Reply #46 on:** June 02, 2008, 06:23:42 PM »

Hey man,
They're nice rods, but my project isn't far along enough to justify a set (and I can't afford 'em yet). I might be in for one at some time, but not this go 'round. Thanks though.

kpier883 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 02, 2008, 06:43:14 PM »

In the interest of my edumucation, can someone explain what this means:

If it ain't XC or....even better XA forget about it.

What does this mean in relation to the rings?

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #48 on:** June 02, 2008, 06:44:42 PM »

Quote from: RxmanGriff on June 02, 2008, 05:59:22 PM

I couldn't get the number 8 between the 2 brackets!? It kept coming ip that way?! Damn computers.

Sam,

I can make you number 8 if you wish BUT YOU NEED TO BE ON THE ROD LIST!! (

As you know Jerry, I don't have a bike to put them in

Chris's bike isn't under enough stress to need them...I built it that way

Sam.

MRieck · « **Reply #49 on:** June 02, 2008, 06:48:17 PM »

Quote from: kpier883 on June 02, 2008, 06:43:14 PM

In the interest of my edumucation, can someone explain what this means:

If it ain't XC or....even better XA forget about it.

What does this mean in relation to the rings?

It has to do with the ring thickness. XC are common for medium to large pistons . The XA's are thinner for less friction.

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Author Topic: Connecting rods (Read 39904 times)