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Offline medic09

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Orbitz and refund failures
« on: June 12, 2008, 01:50:36 PM »
In January we booked flight to Israel.  A little over $4500.  Less than three weeks before the trip, the airlines changed schedules and now couldn't make our connections.  We spent three aggravating days with Orbitz trying to get rescheduled.  When that failed, we canceled the flights and booked a new set of flights, also through Orbitz.  That was the beginning of April.

We still have not had our money returned (to credit card) for the canceled flights.  We have logged *hours* on the phone with Orbitz.  Almost a month ago, I finally got a supervisor who said he would follow through on the problem.  The next day he left a phone message saying that the airline (BMI in England) wasn't available, but he would see this through.

Today, I called Orbitz and they started the run-around all over again.  I finally spoke with a supervisor, named Ann.  Ann tried calling the airline, but the appropriate dept. was closed due to the time difference.  She said that she'd have to try calling them tomorrow, and would call us back.  At that point I pointed out that this is exactly the ground we had already covered.  I pointed out that *I'm* the one who's out over $4500 and paying interest on it to the credit card, that they basically had a free loan at my expense.

Her reply was that it isn't really Orbitz's responsibility, that the airline had to refund the money.  I responded that since Orbitz had taken the order and processed the credit card, I held them responsible.  She repeated the excuses.  I told her I recognize that technically her excuses are correct, but it is bad customer relations to take someone's money (even if to just pass it on) and then give excuses about not refunding it.  She repeated AGAIN how it isn't up to them.  I told her she was making a mistake passing the buck, and that I was going to give them free publicity.

So, there it is folks.  If you buy airline tickets on Orbitz you may save money, BUT if you need a refund due to their changes you cannot count on seeing your money.  It has now been so long, that credit card dispute departments won't handle a complaint like this.

So, bottome line:  Orbitz took $4500 of my money.  The flights were cancelled, so they did not provide the service.  They have not seen that the money is returned in anything near a timely fashion.  They keep promising, but I keep paying interest to the credit card.

Next stop, the State Attorney General's Office, Consumer Fraud Division.
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 02:38:51 PM »
I hear you bro,so many businesses today operate the same ..behind a wall of lawyers..good luck and thanks for the warning with this particular company Joe
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2008, 01:40:49 PM »
Well, they've had time to call England at the proper time and let us know what was resolved.

I'd say so far, Orbitz has stiffed us for $4500!  >:(
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 01:48:37 PM »
Next stop, the State Attorney General's Office, Consumer Fraud Division.

A very wise choice. I hope everything goes in your favor and you get your money back in full! Also, demand free tickets for a weeks vacation in Fiji  ;D

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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2008, 04:57:19 PM »
Man, what a hosing. I wish I had some good advice, but I'm plum out.
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2008, 10:04:54 PM »
Maybe we should get Firecracker hammering orbitz?
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2008, 09:06:24 PM »
Maybe we should get Firecracker hammering orbitz?

That, my friend, is a scary thought!
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2008, 09:40:39 PM »
 :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2008, 10:03:55 PM »
Someone suggested over at TriumphRAT.net that I find the corporate email addresses for Orbitz and start a complaint campaign.  So far, I haven't come up with them; but I'll keep trying.

Anyone in?  ;)
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008, 11:04:09 PM »
http://www.orbitz.com/

Theres a contact button near the bottom of the page that seems to be what your looking for.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=orbitz_blows

Your not alone but your worse off than this bloke.

http://whois.domaintools.com/orbitz.com

Might be a bit of help


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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2008, 11:18:20 PM »
Well, this is the best contact I've come up with so far.

Jeanenne Diefendorf
Director, Consumer PR
Orbitz Worldwide
jdiefendorf@orbitz.com

I would have liked some bigger officers like the CEO, but if this lady gets enough email maybe they'll get a message.

All we wanted was our $4500 refunded in a timely manner... ::)
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2008, 03:40:04 AM »

We still have not had our money returned (to credit card) for the canceled flights.


Have you contacted your credit card issuer??
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2008, 04:02:24 AM »
Yup.
Calls to your credit card, the airline, and the BBB.
Follow up with hardcopy letters to each.  (I don't really think most businesses take e-mail all that seriously.)
If that doesn't work, many local TV stations have consumer "news" departments that will try to help for the publicity- to show off what voracious bulldags they have working there (he typed while trying to keep from throwing up)
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2008, 01:38:22 PM »
So, is anybody writing to this lady?

Jeanenne Diefendorf
Director, Consumer PR
Orbitz Worldwide
jdiefendorf@orbitz.com
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2008, 02:15:37 PM »
Done!

Hope this meets with your approval:

Hi Jeanenne,

It has come to my attention recently that Orbitz may not be very prompt in resolving problems.  Although I'm sure most transactions occur with no issues, when they do, I would like to be assured that the company I deal with will treat me fairly.

You may wish to visit this forum to learn details of the specific problem to which I'm alluding:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=36154.0

Please let me know how you will be resolving this, so I may feel confident using your services, and referring others to your site as well.

Thank you,
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2008, 07:03:56 PM »
Heh...now begins the pain.....im starting to think that a lot of businesses will start to hate to hear the name SOHC/4 forums..
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 07:17:13 PM »
done.

I'm recalling Lazlo Toth "And why is the food so bad?  It's not just me, everyone thinks so."



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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 07:52:45 PM »
So, is anybody writing tothis lady?

Done:
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Dear Ms. Diefendorf,

I am writing you regarding a friend who has yet to receive a refund
for a scheduling change made by an airline for a trip booked through
Orbitz. For the full details of his claim, please read the desciption
he posted in an antique motorcycle forum of which I have been a member
for several years:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=36154.0

It saddens me that Orbitz would fail to issue a refund for a
cancellation that was forced by the airline. It would seem very
reasonable that if Orbitz can collect funds to be paid to an airline,.
then Orbitz should be able to collect a refund from the same.
Furthermore, one can understand that my friend would be on uncertain
ground in attempting to collect from an airline with which he has
not directly conducted any business.

The actions of your organization all but inspire confidence. I have
been satisfied with Orbitz in the past; however, neither I, nor my
friends can be expected to do business with Orbitz again until this
matter is satisfactorily resolved.

Regards,

[name withheld to protect the innocent]

Medic, does Ms. Diefendorf have a way to contact you through this forum?
 
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2008, 05:27:46 AM »
This looks good guys!  The wife and I appreciate it!  Keep those emails going!
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2008, 05:41:37 AM »
What did your credit card co. say? They usually will intervene for goods/services charged by a merchant but not received.
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Re: Orbitz and refund failures
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2008, 06:47:36 AM »
What did your credit card co. say? They usually will intervene for goods/services charged by a merchant but not received.

Originally USAA said we were past the 90 days we had to  complain, since the tickets were purchased in Jan.  Once we pointed out that the refund was only due from the beginning of April when the flights were cancelled, they said document it and fax it in.  My wife is going to call them today to follow up now that they've had about a week to look at it.

Meanwhile, Orbitz still hasn't initiated any efforts on their part, including 'Ann' never called back after she supposedly was going to speak with BMI (the airline).

One of our kids called yesterday, needs some $ for a flight.  I said sure, just stay away from Orbitz!

Keep those emails going guys and gals!  ;)
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