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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 04/14/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2775 on: April 30, 2013, 02:35:32 PM »
Couldn't wait. I thought they would take a section out of the legs. But the welder would druther take it off at the feet, and weld them back on. 1.5" shorter.







All the angles and such appear to be right. We'll hook it up this weekend and if it does the job, off to Brown's for chrome.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 04/14/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2776 on: May 06, 2013, 10:58:14 AM »
Well the darn CS is too short! Dang its hard to judge these things. Its because the bike rises as the stand high centers then falls back down as the stand goes past high center to rest on its stops. It's difficult to guestimate the amount of that fall. I asked for 1.5" shortening. The tire was a good 2" off the floor.  But, it should have been 1.1" or so.

Had the same problem with the sidestand.

Anyway, we'll weld some strap to the feet, shouldn't be too hard. May even make it easier to lift with a bit more radius on the leading edge of the feet.

Still waiting on engine parts and finding details to sort in the meantime.   :D

Film at 11.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 04/14/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2777 on: May 09, 2013, 03:33:57 AM »
Well the darn CS is too short! Dang its hard to judge these things. Its because the bike rises as the stand high centers then falls back down as the stand goes past high center to rest on its stops. It's difficult to guestimate the amount of that fall. I asked for 1.5" shortening. The tire was a good 2" off the floor.  But, it should have been 1.1" or so.

Had the same problem with the sidestand.

Anyway, we'll weld some strap to the feet, shouldn't be too hard. May even make it easier to lift with a bit more radius on the leading edge of the feet.

Still waiting on engine parts and finding details to sort in the meantime.   :D

Film at 11.

If it's not one thing its another, eh Ron?  I'd say you're truly in the final stretch now though.  To bad we can't shove an extra month between now and June 1st! I'd love to see Phaedrus at the show all dressed up for the ladies :)

BTW.... Indy Powder Coating was awesome!  They did a great Job on my parts and the $$ was pretty reasonable considering I had almost 2 hours of blasting required  :o .  I'm desparately trying to get the XS done in time for the show.  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=119593.0   Wont be 100% perfect, but I think I'll have it running in a couple weeks.

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 04/14/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2778 on: May 09, 2013, 10:31:57 AM »
Well the darn CS is too short! Dang its hard to judge these things. Its because the bike rises as the stand high centers then falls back down as the stand goes past high center to rest on its stops. It's difficult to guestimate the amount of that fall. I asked for 1.5" shortening. The tire was a good 2" off the floor.  But, it should have been 1.1" or so.

Had the same problem with the sidestand.

Anyway, we'll weld some strap to the feet, shouldn't be too hard. May even make it easier to lift with a bit more radius on the leading edge of the feet.

Still waiting on engine parts and finding details to sort in the meantime.   :D

Film at 11.

If it's not one thing its another, eh Ron?  I'd say you're truly in the final stretch now though.  To bad we can't shove an extra month between now and June 1st! I'd love to see Phaedrus at the show all dressed up for the ladies :)

BTW.... Indy Powder Coating was awesome!  They did a great Job on my parts and the $$ was pretty reasonable considering I had almost 2 hours of blasting required  :o .  I'm desparately trying to get the XS done in time for the show.  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=119593.0   Wont be 100% perfect, but I think I'll have it running in a couple weeks.

Cheers, Joe
Thanks Joe. Its going to be the world's most expensive centerstand, especially with the chrome. But it'll be nice. I'd always said that if I changed the ride height I would change the stands to match. How else could it be?

I didn't mean to change the ride height, but I did and now it seems like it will suit me better anyway.

If we miss the Rockers, I'll try for something else yet this summer. Maybe a local VJMC or County Fair.

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I'm going to your link now to see the Excess!

Bought some cool stuff from Yamiya. I'll wait till it gets here to disclose.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2779 on: May 09, 2013, 01:28:55 PM »
Here's the 2 side by side.


I just dropped the short one off to have some pads welded on the feet. That should do it.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2780 on: May 09, 2013, 03:04:52 PM »
If you want to sell me the longer chrome one Ron Ill take it off your hands!

Looks good!
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2781 on: May 09, 2013, 03:08:22 PM »
Did you check the position of the support bar, in relation to the exhaust pipe when in the up position??  It's got more angle & is welded on further up the leg.  Better to make sure now, before it's chromed. ;)
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2782 on: May 09, 2013, 04:51:26 PM »
Did you check the position of the support bar, in relation to the exhaust pipe when in the up position??  It's got more angle & is welded on further up the leg.  Better to make sure now, before it's chromed. ;)
A few posts back I mentioned that we had refabbed the CS stop. That was to accomodate either the long or short CS, depending on the shocks I wanted to wear that day.   ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2783 on: May 09, 2013, 04:52:24 PM »
If you want to sell me the longer chrome one Ron Ill take it off your hands!

Looks good!
Andy
I'll be keeping it, so I have options.   ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2784 on: May 09, 2013, 08:23:08 PM »
Guess I missed that,.....there's only 112 pages to remember. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2785 on: May 10, 2013, 04:29:53 AM »
Guess I missed that,.....there's only 112 pages to remember. ;D ;D ;D ;D
No problem, it was just a one liner buried in some other stuff. But...
try to keep up.   ;)
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2786 on: May 10, 2013, 11:09:41 AM »
How about an index of the highlights, for us memory challenged. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2787 on: May 10, 2013, 11:13:32 AM »
How about an index of the highlights, for us memory challenged. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh sure, I have it right here...somewhere...  ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2788 on: May 11, 2013, 07:29:55 AM »
Yamiya is unbelievable! I ordered at 11P EST Wed night. IT arrives Fri 2P afternoon! I did not pay for spec handling, just the regular $16+ they always charge. 2 days from Japan, 10 days from Illinois (next door).

So: I needed the lower tree clamp bolts. My build calls for all new hardware: chrome or Stainless, pref Allen or buttons. No reason, just because.

The longest OEM chrome bolts I could find just weren't long enough. Those that were, from ACE, were 10 x 1.5 inst of 1.25. I remembered that the caliper clamping bolts were Allens of the 10 x 1.25 variety. And that Yamiya carried them in stainless and they are Allens. So I got some.

Then the chrome fork lock cover caught my eye, so I got one of those.

I was thinking I'd have my shift pedal rechromed and that Brown's could buff out the nub that holds the rubber on. It has a major flat spot in it from contact with the pavement, memento of my racing days.  But the damage was too severe and Yam has the pedals smooth chromed on both sides, OEM is just polished on the outside, so I got one of those. About what Brown's would have charged.

Finally Yam had a magnetic drain bolt, with a metric hex. The one I have has some odd sized maybe ASE hex. So I got one of those.

Yam is giving rewards points now which take the bite off.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2789 on: May 11, 2013, 07:37:28 AM »
Foreign Speedo called me (always a good sign) that they were close to finish with the clocks, and asked me some details. Hope to get them back soon.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/06/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2790 on: May 12, 2013, 06:39:32 PM »
Keep finding things to do while waiting on engine parts.
The new one is noticeably shinier. more shiny = more better. For me anyway.

Cool mag drain plug, center milled out and drilled for safety wire. A bit overkill:

SS Bolts for fork clamps and chrome fork lock cover. Found a SS 3mm x 8 x 50 buttonhead at ACE to hold it on.


Little shop work today, Mother's Day and all.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/12/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2791 on: May 13, 2013, 01:09:47 AM »
Some nice jewellery there Ron, I like that new shift lever, I might need to buy one............ ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/12/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2792 on: May 13, 2013, 06:32:11 AM »
Where'd you get the drain plug?
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/12/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2794 on: May 13, 2013, 07:13:57 AM »
Some nice jewellery there Ron, I like that new shift lever, I might need to buy one............ ;D
They are on sale. The beam is much thicker than stock, if one cares. But the chrome is all around and very nice. No one can see the engine side I know, but it makes me feel good.   :D

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/12/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2795 on: May 13, 2013, 06:42:03 PM »
Just got a call from MRieck. Nice progress on the sweet engine. Souped up engine parts with a certain finesse, my style. ITs going to have plenty of ooomph without an edge. Really excited about the addtl head work and OS intake valves. I can hear it now.

In the meantime, continue to collect parts. I went back to Soupy's site and this caught my eye:
http://www.soupysperformance.com/products/soupys-oversize-sidestand-foot.html
The oversize foot. So I bot one and it came today. Nicely made and surely won't sink in the soft asphalt or gravel.

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/12/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2796 on: May 13, 2013, 07:38:35 PM »
As to my valves kissing the pistones, originally I had degreed the cam. Then as a result of a head gasket leak, we disasssembled the top top end (documewnted in the build thread, page ??) and retorqued the head nuts. I had marked the cam sprckt for position so we wouldn't have to re-dgree it. Then finished reassembly. That fixed the leak BTW.

However, according to Mike this NEVER works. My shortcut is the likely culprit. So we jointly decided not to cut anything more off the pistons, and to spend the time to degree the cam. Follow that up wth a clearance checking trick.

I'm scanning eBay for a large diameter degree wheel. Larger than the 7" RC wheel I've got which is difficult to use.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 05/12/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2798 on: May 13, 2013, 07:51:11 PM »
tweakin bought this big boy. Its pretty sweet.
http://www.amazon.com/Moroso-62191-18-Degree-Wheel/dp/B000COS5AG
Exactly the one I've been looking at. So you can vouch it worked OK? Turned towards the rt side of bike? Center hole rt size?

Thanks!

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No I can't but I am pretty sure Mike said its the one he uses and tweakin used it on his.