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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2900 on: July 05, 2013, 09:14:17 PM »
+1 Enjoy the R&R....I'm sure that you'll come back ready to dive in again.

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2901 on: July 05, 2013, 09:43:47 PM »
Ron,
Bring your rain gear as the smokeys get lots of rain to give them that "smokey" reputation...it has been a wet summer so far here in NE Tennessee.
Enjoy the time recharging your batteries. Hope you enjoy some good barbeque while you are down along with some honey and good music and sights and sounds.
Depending on where you are, you should have a decent connection or access to one.

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2902 on: July 18, 2013, 11:10:42 AM »
David et al: Got back on Sunday. Had great weather, rode the go-karts, World's second largest Ferris Wheel (42 enclosed air conditioned cars), saw some shows, even went into the Park for a day. The cabin was up a single (barely) lane wide "road" that went up so steeply, when it leveled off you couldn't see where to go. About a mile long with switchbacks and covered with a dusty gravel slurry. Our new to us Honda CRZ took it in stride, but I had my doubts. A 4 wheel drive would have been better. Maybe the weight of the CRZ batteries helped.   ;)

So I'll be back in the shop this weekend. It's like an archaeological dig in there, layers of parts and assemblies on the bench separated by towels and shop rags. We'll just take them one at a time, what ever's on top gets first attention, till we work our way down to the engine parts.

Till then...  :D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2903 on: July 18, 2013, 11:31:27 AM »
There are some nice restaurants around the newly built ferris wheel and it's shopping mecca. My sister was down there with her BF the weekend it opened. More very nice restaurants are slated for that area and are under construction.
Glad you had a good time and it was a safe one for you.
Welcome back and good luck digging through the layers... Pictures or it didn't happen as they say here...

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2904 on: July 18, 2013, 11:58:50 AM »
There are some nice restaurants around the newly built ferris wheel and it's shopping mecca. My sister was down there with her BF the weekend it opened. More very nice restaurants are slated for that area and are under construction.
Glad you had a good time and it was a safe one for you.
Welcome back and good luck digging through the layers... Pictures or it didn't happen as they say here...

David
Thanks. We hit a few, but with a full kitchen and grill at the cabin, the wife brought her usual fare of fish and turkey and low fat items. She would have brought that stuff had I had my "cardiac event" or not. Diet/weight was not one of my risk factors. 5'11' x 155lbs.  In fact, the only risk factor I had was family history. Luck of the draw.

I'll be embarrassed to show what the shop looks like now, nearly a month of neglect. But I will, as the "after" shot will be like old times, neat and proper.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2905 on: July 19, 2013, 05:13:49 PM »
To satisfy Rafster: The project:



The skeleton:


The stubby centerstand:


Instrument bases from Brown's:



So that's the proof of the g-dawful mess.

NExt will be the cleanup, reassembly.   ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2906 on: July 19, 2013, 05:17:20 PM »
Whats your workbench top made out of?

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2907 on: July 19, 2013, 05:19:42 PM »
Ron, not so bad...me to be satisfied, no one else worried about satisfying me, why should you?
Really...it doesn't look bad at all.
I have found that MAAS polish gives very good results and keeps parts looking fresher longer. Side covers are looking a little cloudy compared to the new chromed centerstand.  Very nice looking work from Browns, but you expect nothing but top notch work from them as is their usual.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2908 on: July 19, 2013, 05:26:57 PM »
Whats your workbench top made out of?
I bot that bench at a garage sale, OE had passed away and widow was selling, for $10. 30 years ago.

The top is 2x6s covered with a one piece steel plate, probably 1/16th or so, galvanized I guess as it doesn't rust. The edges are folded over and tacked in place with wood screws and fender washers, stainless, with hospital corners. Somebody really put some effort into it.

The inner space was all open, so I just found plastic drawer sets to fit.

I added about 6" to the legs so its a stand up station.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2909 on: July 19, 2013, 05:33:19 PM »
Nice score then. That's a great bench. My Dad was visiting a few weeks ago and stumbled on an estate sale. Picked up a HUGE workbench made of solid Maple. Beautiful table all laminated together and a 6" thick worktop and looked like it could have been a butchers table. $20!

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2910 on: July 19, 2013, 05:34:52 PM »
Ron, not so bad...me to be satisfied, no one else worried about satisfying me, why should you?
Really...it doesn't look bad at all.
I have found that MAAS polish gives very good results and keeps parts looking fresher longer. Side covers are looking a little cloudy compared to the new chromed centerstand.  Very nice looking work from Browns, but you expect nothing but top notch work from them as is their usual.
David
Just kidding around of course.

Yeah, the biggest problem with the time its taken is that the polished aluminum pieces are clouding as you say. They actually look better than the pictures, but still cloudy. They'll get a rebuff after its up and running.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2911 on: July 19, 2013, 05:36:24 PM »
Nice score then. That's a great bench. My Dad was visiting a few weeks ago and stumbled on an estate sale. Picked up a HUGE workbench made of solid Maple. Beautiful table all laminated together and a 6" thick worktop and looked like it could have been a butchers table. $20!
That's nice too! Workbenches are like pianos. Too big and heavy to sell for what they are worth.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2912 on: July 19, 2013, 06:10:43 PM »
The adjustable sidestand was slightly polished aluminum, It looked out of place, so it was sent to Brown's. The finished piece is MIA for now. In the mess, we'll dig it out Sunday.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2913 on: July 23, 2013, 11:26:12 AM »
Got a little bit done this weekend. BEsides general cleanup, reassembled the instruments and mounted. Baseplates held on with cute little Stainless buttonhead screws courtesy ACE Hardware.

This should be the last fiddling with the instruments.

K1 clocks/ new bodies from Lecram, bases rechromed from Brown's, K0 faces from Lecram, (no hash mark on the speedo, higher redline on tach) cleaning, recalibration, and assembly by ForeignSpeedo, (I'm repeating myself, often, from pages back by describing these, but I do so for the benefit for new readers who may have missed previous pages.)

On a whim, years ag0, I had the instrument rings powdered gold. At the time I was feeling a budget pinch. I've since scored some new OEM chrome rings from eBay. But I kinda like the gold.

Got the rear brake stay back on with new chrome and SS hardware, no pics.

Got the sidestand back on:


Feels good to be going forward again.   ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2914 on: July 23, 2013, 11:35:43 AM »
Very PIMP Ron, just like you like it!
Good progress, little stuff eats time just like or morethan some of the big stuff we do.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/23/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2915 on: July 23, 2013, 09:31:31 PM »
Looking good MC.  How do you like the CRZ?
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 06/21/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2916 on: July 24, 2013, 05:51:50 AM »
Very PIMP Ron, just like you like it!
Good progress, little stuff eats time just like or morethan some of the big stuff we do.
PIMP? I prefer "70s sheik"   ;)   :D 

Yeah each little thing takes an hour or so, but we'll get there.

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/23/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2917 on: July 24, 2013, 06:00:00 AM »
Looking good MC.  How do you like the CRZ?

Thanks.

The wife was due for a new car, and her all time favorite was a CRX she had years ago. So she wanted another 2 seater. She settled on the CRZ not cause of the HYBRID, she didn't even know what that was. But because it was a 2 seater with good mileage.

She loves it. The CVT trans has 3+ settings: economy, standard and sport. She like to push sport and floor it. ITs not lightening but its fun.

Gets about 42mpg city and highway.  Thing is, some bigger vehicles are getting near that now. But it is a low emissions vehicle besides, so I guess that's green. All the features and instrument cluster etc are really cool. Not for big people though. I'm 5'11" and have to wiggle to get in and out. Perfect for her at 5'6". Plenty of room for groceries and she takes her bike to the park on a hatch rack. We had luggage, cooler, misc for 9 days on board.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/23/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2918 on: July 24, 2013, 06:27:38 AM »
Very PIMP Ron, just like you like it!
Good progress, little stuff eats time just like or morethan some of the big stuff we do.
PIMP? I prefer "70s sheik"   ;)   :D 

Yeah each little thing takes an hour or so, but we'll get there.


Sorry Ron, very 70s Shiek then.
Groovey, psychedelic and other terms being more 60s...?

Looking forward to the photographic adventure continuing.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/23/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2919 on: July 29, 2013, 06:49:42 PM »
A short but productive day. Reassembled the Kickstarter. Anyone else ever have one of these apart? Really no reason too unless you're refinishing it, as we did. A little tricky, what with the spring loaded ball. Cleaned the spring and treated it for rust. Bought a new 1/4" ball from ACE.

Useful tool: Craftsman ROBOGRIP with padded jaws. It adjusts itself to the work as you squeeze the handle.

Inserting the flat spring:

New KS Rubber, OEM:

Not exactly for the restorer, did the originals actually say "Kickstarter"? I don't think so. Beefy piece:

New out of bag OEM Dipstick on left. My original DS, with hole for safety wire, back when I was racing, but re-chromed from Brown's. Can't beat Brown for gooey wet chrome.

Reassembled the pegs with new rubbers:


A few more details and we'll be on the engine.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/28/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2920 on: July 29, 2013, 07:00:23 PM »
Nice, chrome is so hard to photograph well, it just pales in comparison to the deal in person.
Liquid chrome...gooey shiney liquid reflection goodness.

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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/28/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2921 on: July 29, 2013, 07:12:36 PM »
Nice, chrome is so hard to photograph well, it just pales in comparison to the deal in person.
Liquid chrome...gooey shiney liquid reflection goodness.

David
The dipsticks are really different in Photobucket, but less so when linked in to the forum. 

I had great expectations for the OEM dipstick, and a OEM speedo base I'd bot as well. But beside a Brown's product they just don't hold up.

The OEM bits will be for sale.
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 07/28/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2922 on: August 05, 2013, 09:30:17 AM »
Finished up the peg install, polished up the covers and smudge prints.



This time around not only the pegs are chrome but the springs, washers, pivot pins and nuts.

Rewire the instruments in the hlite bucket and start on the engine next.   ;D
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 08/04/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2923 on: August 05, 2013, 11:45:54 AM »
Looking better and better every time Ron! Your points cover from Frankenstuff is it metal or plastic? Looks very good - can you take a side shot of it when you have the chance?

thanks
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Re: Phaedrus II: CB750 "Super Standard"-Update 08/04/13 w/ new pics
« Reply #2924 on: August 05, 2013, 06:46:10 PM »
Looking better and better every time Ron! Your points cover from Frankenstuff is it metal or plastic? Looks very good - can you take a side shot of it when you have the chance?

thanks
Andy
ITs plastic. Barely a prototype. Teeny imperfections, but the chrome is very nice. One with flash, one without.

Thanks for looking Andy. Really envy your mileage. I was hoping I could catch up to you, but with recent health issues, it will be more in spirit then reality.

everyone, get out there and ride!
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