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Dumb things - what have you done?
« on: June 21, 2008, 07:13:35 PM »
Well I didn't know whether to laugh or cry yesterday. You see, about 2 months ago, my son was complaining that the old GM Holden Apollo (Toyota Camry) that I gave him recently was running real bad. "I'm not surprised", I thought to myself, "I've had that car for years and nothings gone wrong with it, and  you have it for a month and you kill it." To be fair though, he had it parked in our sloping driveway, pointing downhill, and had spent the afternoon cleaning and polishing it, so he was trying to look after it, I guess.

It would start, run for a minute or so, then conk out? Weird! The fuel gauge was showing a 1/4 of a tank full of fuel, and it was pointing downhill, but it still seemed like a fuel issue, so I told him to call the auto club as I had to get to Army reserve training.

When I got home he told me that the auto club mechanic confirmed that it was a fuel issue, he'd traced the wiring to the tank mounted electric fuel pump, and it had power to it, so he surmised that the pump was shot. Damn. I rang the auto parts store and they told me a non-genuine pump would set me back 360 bucks, and as my son still owed me 600 bucks for some other things (and was in no rush to pay me back either) I loaned him my car (I've got a company car, so rarely drive it) until he could afford a new pump.

I got talking to a mate of mine, an old car racer, and he suggested that I just use an accessory type electric fuel pump, he'd used them for years with big V8 twin carb set ups etc, and said that he had a good US manufactured "Purolator" electric fuel pump sitting in a box if I needed it, for 20 bucks. Bargain! I took it home and tested it by attaching a couple of 4 feet long hoses, sat the pump on the driveway attached to a battery, shoved the hose down into the Camry's filler neck, and it pumped fuel out into a 4 gallon fuel drum, no worries. I then disconnected the fuel filter in the engine bay between the tank and the carb (it's not injected) but the pump wouldn't draw fuel thru, no matter what I tried? "Damn", I thought, "The siezed OEM pump must be blocking the fuel flow!" I gave up.................

I'm going away on an Army exercise the end of this week, so I need my car to get there, (the company I work for aren't that generous that they give me the company car when I'm on leave, but they do pay me to do Army stuff, so it's not all bad) so yesterday, I decided to pull the tank out of the camry and chuck the buggared OEM pump, and do whatever mods I need to use the accessory pump that I was going to mount in the engine bay, so I could have my car back to go away.

Now it's winter here, and although there was weak sunshine, it was cold, and the concrete driveway was slightly damp from a little rain we had earlier in the morning, so crawling under the car was pretty damn miserable. I disconnected the power to the pump and the fuel gauge sender unit and drew out the sender so I could pump the fuel out of the tank, to save tipping it all over myself when I pulled the tank out from under the car. Surprisingly, only a couple of gallons of fuel came out, but I couldn't get the hose into all the corners. It was about now that I should have started asking some questions, but I was too focussed on getting the job done, I guess.

Anyway, I soldiered on and after unbolting the tank, cutting 3 hoses that were too hard to wriggle off and struggling, upside down, to remove the rubber connecting pipe for the filler and tank breather, the exhaust heat shield and couple of other bits, I was able to drop the tank out. I put a jack under it to help lower it, but that proved to be more of a hindrance than a help, so I eventually man-handled it out from under the car.

Interestingly, the fuel pump is mounted at the rear of the tank which is a pity, if it was mounted where the fuel sender unit is at the front of the tank, (anyone worked it out yet?) I'd have been able to draw it out from inside the car. I Pulled it out and was 1. Surprised at how clean the inside of the tank was and 2. How good the pump looked. Hmmmmnnnn...........

I took the pump into my garage and connected it up to 12 volts, and it spun up, with no problems, so I remounted it into the tank, tipped the couple of gallons of gas that I'd taken out back into it, and connected it to 12 volts, but nothing came out, so I tilted the tank so that fuel would run to the BACK of the tank, and woohoo! Gas came out at a fair rate of knots! I then realised that the reason that it wouldn't go, even though the fuel gauge was reading 1/4 full, was because the fuel sender is at the front of the tank, but the electric pump and pickup, is at the REAR. Fark!

I had spent 6 hours lying on my back working mostly underneath a car on a wet concrete driveway in winter, because my sons car was just out of gas..................... Now on the bright side, I've learned a lot about how electric fuel pumps work, and i can use that pump I bought as a fluid pump for my lathe, but I don't know if that's any reward for the embarrassment, not to mention the aches and pains I'm feeling as I'm typing this. Has anyone else got an "I just f*cked up" story they'd like to share? Surely I'm not the only one? Ha ha, Cheers, Terry. ;D   
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Re: Dumb things - what have you done?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 08:10:21 PM »
Ha ha, that sucks, but at least you didnt, for example, grab a hot exhaust pipe in the process lol!

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 08:40:47 PM »
I always park front "down" at home and I know that if it says I'm out of gas when I start it, I know when I get on the flat road all will be OK.


I skipped most of your post from "para #2 " as I had it figured out and then at the end your figured it out ;D ;D


I suppose if your regular parking faces up hill, you will always think you have more gas than you really do ;)

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 08:54:02 PM »
In answer to your question: oil change and forgetting to put the drain plug in then wondering why the crankcase seems to need waaay more oil than the manual calls for. Only realising said mistake when the drain pan underneath overflows with old and new oil.....fark indeed. ::)
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 09:15:14 PM »
Yup.

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 09:39:49 PM »
dumbest thing i've ever done...........get married ;D

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 09:53:06 PM »
The only mistake you made Terry was listening to the Auto Club mechanic that wanted to sell a fuel pump.  Shame on you. jk :)
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 04:17:12 AM »
A little over a year ago, coming off the freeway, the sidecar rig suddenly developed mechanical trouble.  I was able to drift into a parking lot, though.  Couldn't find anything, so I went looking for a phone.  Pay phines are a thing of the past.  Finally, I talked a shopkeeper into letting me call a tow truck.  Hours later, the rig in back in the driveway. 

Long story short- I forgot to turn "Reserve" on.  I completely missed Oprah.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 05:59:36 AM »
I completely missed Oprah.

.....and it was the one where Dr.Phil counsels a guy who has a motorcycle addiction.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 06:03:19 AM »
I completely missed Oprah.

.....and it was the one where Dr.Phil counsels a guy who has a motorcycle addiction.

Hondaman was on oprah??????????

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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008, 06:12:08 AM »
I was over at a buddy's house who has an older brick paver driveway. The gaps between some of the bricks are fairly large, and I selected the one that was just large enough for my kickstand to fit into. The bike waited until I was 10 feet away before it fell over and broke off the clutch lever....

More recently at the beginning of last season, I pulled the bike out to fire it up for it's maiden voyage of the new year. There was only a hundred miles on the trip odometer, so I was certain I had plenty of gas.  ::) The bike had a hard time starting and when it finally did it was balky wouldn't stay running. I start popping off the carb bowls, checking for spark and the like when it finally dawned on me that the last time I filled up last season I didn't fill the tank all the way up- I'd only put in a couple gallons! I flip the petcock over to reserve and magically, now all 4 carb get fuel and it starts up and runs like a top!

I feel your pain, Terry...
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 06:21:29 AM »
If I have any doubt of fuel level I always use reserve.

Tery it may not work as a coolant pump, as they are often tuned off during use and must be able to bypass when that happens. Also lots of water passing through and the pump is not designed for that..
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 08:19:01 AM »
Keep them coming!!!

I feel smarter already :D

Did I mention I drove of with the disk lock still on my bike this week?  The lock was twisted so it didn't open anymore, had to grind it off. Then as I finally got the thing off, I went outside to  leave and locked myself out of the house. I had to climb two stories and get in throught the bathroom window.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 08:57:41 AM »
Saw a disc lock the other day had a bright ORANGE coily cord going up to, and clipped on the right hand bar.

 And I thought..hmmmm.. now that looked like a great idea..
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 01:25:13 PM »
Cheer up Terry, your days are getting longer and warmer. We know how rough winter can be on you folks. :D
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 02:08:27 PM »
Ha ha, well my bloody neck and back still hurt from all that contortionist work under that little red car Bob, but I must admit it was nice driving it again yesterday when I took the wife to the movies. Of course my son was nowhere to be found in my car.................  ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 05:07:58 PM »
We have been given the use of one of these: http://www.wolfbmw.com/F800ST.html  as an instructor bike by the local BMW dealership. Very nice of them, I must say. Anyhoo, I rode it from work to my overnighter location last night. Took it out of the garage this morning and parked it on a slight downhill outside the garage. As I did it I was thinking "bad move, it's downhill and might roll off the side stand (which incidentally would also make a good popsicle/lolly stick)". But I started to walk back to close the garage door anyway. The bike started to move and I just managed to catch it before it came crashing down. Duh.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 02:03:25 PM »
Hey that's a very nice bike Nick, if I was in the market for a mid sized sport/tourer with a realistic seating position, I'd jump at one of those, although if I could afford it, I'd go for the new K1200S, BMW build quality and ergonomics with Hayabusa power, woohoo!

You gotta watch BMW stands though, I've nearly let my K1100LT fall off the stand on an incline, and although the PO never crashed it, it fell off the center stand 3 times in the 13 years he had it, first time it got so hot here in summer the blacktop melted underneath it ($2500.00 damage) second time a bum kicked it over when the PO refused to give him a handout for "a cup of coffee", ($2900.00) and third time when the rotor downwash from a Blackhawk helicopter knocked over all the bikes in the carpark at the barracks. ($3200.00) I'm very careful where I park it now................  ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 06:21:25 PM »
......third time when the rotor downwash from a Blackhawk helicopter knocked over all the bikes in the carpark at the barracks.

Dashed inconvenient. You just never know when a Blackhawk helicopter is going to materialise and blow your motorcycle over.....
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 08:12:18 PM »
Well it worked well for the PO. He claimed it on his insurance, then put in a "claim for compensation" from the DOD, and actually made some money out of it, ha ha!  ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2008, 10:50:39 AM »
oh yes, pulled the rear shocks and the second one was a little harder to get off. so I tapped it with the palm of my hand and wham. down comes the rear frame and fender just scarying the crap out of me.
The other is when all the wieght of the front end is on and that last bolt on the tripples gets loosened up.   :o
Another I'll never do again. LOL

Funny Terry, I was thinking of starting a thread like it for awhile.

I was thinking I'll never do that again. for mine.

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2008, 12:23:22 PM »
A few days ago I pulled the cables to replace them, I was working outside and it got dark real quick.

Took the old ones off and set them on the ground. Went inside for a drink and came back out and put the cables back on.

The old cables. I just grabbed the old ones and put them back on without noticing.

Not that big of a deal but still a brilliant way to spend my time ::)
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2008, 12:52:21 PM »
I did this just the other week.  I'm out riding with my girlfriend.  I'm coming up to a stop light and my bike sputters and dies.  woops, forgot to get gas, I better put it on reserve.  So I put it on reserve and it still won't start, I walk it to a nearby parking lot to fiddle.  theres some gas in the tank, so I shake it back and forth and it kind of starts up then dies.  The fuel filter I have on has air and a little gas in it, so I figure maybe my reserve isn't working.  So I send her to grab a gas can and fill it up.  Later, at home when I go to see why my reserve wasn't working, I realized that I hadn't put it on reserve....I put it on stop!   DOH!

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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2008, 01:01:00 PM »
A few days ago I pulled the cables to replace them, I was working outside and it got dark real quick.

Took the old ones off and set them on the ground. Went inside for a drink and came back out and put the cables back on.

The old cables. I just grabbed the old ones and put them back on without noticing.

Not that big of a deal but still a brilliant way to spend my time ::)

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