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the sohc4 store
« on: June 29, 2008, 07:29:38 PM »
Why is there no sohc4 store? With the skills and ideas that different members have, why not start the sohc4 store?
I was looking at fabricating some pipes for 650's, since there are few available and offering them up for sale to members, when i thought of Hondaman and his ignition and all the other members who fabricate parts, lets get them all in on place. A virtual store, Ebay store, etc.

Each member involved will be responsible for their own parts offered. Orders taken will be directed to that member who stocks the part (if they wish to do so) or have an estimated lead time to fabricate then ship the parts. Since the parts will already be prototyped, accurate shipping estimates can also be offered from the members location.

A bonus to lead time, funds are available to finance the fabrication.

Parts can also be developed by forum members, purchased by other members at next to cost for testing purposes, input shared and changes made before marketing.

Have a one off but can't fabricate it yourself? An exhaust you had welded up for you? look at outsourcing the fabrication and selling it, though the profit would be less.

with the knowledge in the forum, any modifications required, jetting for example, may already be figured out and that is also included with the part. Sohc4 total technical support.

Offer a service, polishing for example, but have limited supply of parts to polish? Get together with someone who has lots of parts but doesn't polish and share the sale between you. Create a list of parts the forum has available, even charge a core for the old one if you want!

Somehow (legaly) got your hands on surplus parts? offer them for sale through the store. Bags of NOS parts sometimes go up on ebay and if you picked them up, take what you need and offer up the extra.

% of sales goes to support the forum and the rest to that member!

Great way to finance that next bike build!

A blend of CylcleX, Rice Paddy, you get the idea.

This forum is pretty freindly so I imagine parts poaching will not happen (steeling someone elses prototype idea)

Anyone interested in this venture? Thoughts, input appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 06:46:27 PM »
Sounds like a plan. We have a lot of skill here, but their skills are scattered across a lot of threads. One place would be a very good idea. Some people that come to mind would be MReick, Hondaman, some fellow that does micro welding. If you can fab up replica or near replica pipes, wow.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 10:26:51 PM »
A CB-specific version of Mike's XS is something I've bemoaned the lack of, as well as some other members here, apparently. I'd love to see that, I know there's plenty of talented fabricators here and even more people who know people that can score rare parts!

I'd love to help out in any way possible; I'm a pretty experienced web designer and I'd provide my skills for that.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 10:48:26 PM »
Good call.
I have had a friend devlope CAD prints for mounts for a Dunstall tank on my 750. These I would share. Tweaked per individual basis.

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2008, 01:31:16 AM »
Sounds like a great idea! I'm not really very good at anything in particular but i would be more then happy to help in any way possible. Might have some used parts to offer eventually. Might be able to get a good deal on some members only jackets!
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 04:26:13 AM »
I like the idea man...I will chat with my roommate and see what between the two of us at S&M Customs here can throw into the ring..
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 05:32:23 AM »
We have considered this idea in the past but always stumbled on the effort required to set it up and manage it.

We already have Cafepress and Zazzle where you can get t-shirts etc.

Ground rules would have to be developed with regard to legal status, profit (?) etc.

Wasn't it Hope that offered to set up an online store in one of the Hondaman threads?
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 05:36:59 AM »
With the know-how and ability on this forum it would be a damned good thing....
But with the organisational and freight/postage prices i reckon it would be a nightmare.
We have a services offered section, isnt that what its for?

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 01:27:15 PM »
I can drink beer.  I'm not sure that is marketable on the SOHC store, but I'm just sayin'.  It's my skill.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 03:04:49 AM »
You`ve really thought this through havent you weird beard?
Damned good thinking it was too!
We have members offering everything from new gauge faces to oil filter adapters, could be a winner

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2008, 06:28:44 AM »
The Forum has a For Sale section which could act as the framework. Maybe segemnt it by specilaity?
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2008, 08:05:15 AM »
There is a shopping cart for the patches here:  http://www.geauxwebdesigns.com/SOHC/

I also made a shopping cart for the SOHC donation here (FREE CB items with a donation to SOHC4): http://geauxwebdesigns.com/SOHC/donations.html

I have offered to build a shopping cart for Hondaman just like the patches & the donation page, but that never came together.

This is the closest that we have to an SOHC store.

If you guys can get your products together & send me pics & prices, I can build a checkout for the SOHC goods & make an SOHC store.  Consider it a favor to my SOHC buddies who help me keep Cassandra on the road.  I won't charge a dime, but if I find that there's something that you list in the store that I think Cassandra might need, I might ask for an item in trade for my web designing services.  (Fortunate for you that I like Cassandra pretty much the way she is!)

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Re: the sohc4 store
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2008, 09:20:53 AM »
By profession a woodworker and electrician, if you need any help in those areas give me a PM.

Also I can't remember if Hondaman still sells his ignition kits or not, but if he needs some help making them I can do them for cost.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2008, 11:05:58 AM »
So far I see this as a good idea!

Hope, it's people like you who make this a stand out community. SOHC4 has utterly changed my view of forums. If I ever can do anything for the collective it'll be my pleasure.

I like the drinking beer idea although I'm more of a Scotch guy. Sleeping and watching TV... oh, and complaining about any number of things I be real good at! ;)


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Re: the sohc4 store
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 04:09:49 AM »
I don't want to split any efforts.

I think we need to talk to Hope and see how we could structure such a shop; then we need a volunteer to run it!
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 02:27:21 AM »
You've obviously thought about this and it all looks convincing. More of a "Shop Front" than a store as it relies on PMs to do any deals.

Have you checked out Hope's SOHC "store"?

Maybe some amalgam of the two
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Re: the sohc4 store
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2008, 07:21:32 AM »
To date, the problem with building one unified shopping cart is that each service/item is offered by a different SOHC member...  so if I build a cart there you can put items in the cart, I don't know if it will function correctly if item 1 is an item that is being sold by member cb750 (made up just for my example), and item 2 is being sold by member cafeparts (made up just for my example), and item 3 is being sold by sohcpins (just made up just for my example).  I guess I can build a test checkout to see if I can make it work, but if I send anyone any money while I am testing the checkout, the SOHC member will have to refund it back to me!

I will need the following information from each of the sellers who choose to participate in the store if I build a checkout:
1. Your Paypal email address
2. Description of the item you're selling
3. Picture of the item you're selling
4. Price of the item you're selling
5. 1 flat shipping cost of the item you're selling (this cart will not calculate shipping)

I doubt this cart will work with the PM system that is suggested.  This cart will rely on the buyer to add the item to the cart, then check out.

If this is what you guys had in mind, please let me know and I will try to build the test shopping cart that will make payments to multiple sellers.  I will report back with the results of whether or not this can be accomplished later, after you guys have agreed that 1 unified shopping cart is what you want.

The mods here can probably create the SOHC Store discussion that you have suggested so that you will see it from the 1st page of the forums.  I don't have the ability to do anything like that.

Pertaining to the store, we can break it down like this:

SOHC STORE>
                        engine>>
                        exhaust>>
                        electrical>>
                        rebuilt>>
                        new>>
                        pins>>
                        patches>>

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Re: the sohc4 store
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2008, 10:00:39 PM »
I'm not quite sure how to "weigh in" on this particular topic.  ???
I think it was Hope who first approached me with this, but I can't figure out a way to field all the questions and sometimes-tech-support that goes with the ignitions and custom ignitions, the Resistor Packs and customs of those, the Swingarm rebuilds of everything from 125 twins to 750s...every single one of them, save a couple of repeat customers on "Basic" ignitions, has been a one-off custom operation. I've done it this way, so far, to prevent problems that can arise with this sort of device. (Not to mention the upcoming LED timing lights, the EFI I'm working on, the 350F Power Booster that's about to be prototyped...it's a long list! I'm also working on the LED taillight system (not just a bulb), halogen lighting for the 350F and 400F, etc.)

Here's an example, and I'm open to any help here, BTW...someone writes me and asks "How much is the Transistorized Ignition, and what options are available?" I've currently reduced that response to this:
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1. The "Basic" module, a no-frills unit that is 2" x 4" x 0.9" in size, mounts anywhere in the middle of the bike, runs the stock coils. These are $68 right now.
2. The "Dyna capable" unit is the one with fins: it's really made for racers and those who want to run the Dyna or Accel coils directly, without resistors. These are $72 in this "batch" (not really the hot setup for daily riders, though, see "Resistor Pack" below for use with Dyna coils on the street).
3. Optional colored cases: add $15 and your choice of color in red, green, blue, black, gold or silver. These units are also Dyna-capable, because they are larger at 2.5" x 4.75" x 1.1", so they dissipate the extra heat, like the fins on the smaller one.
4. Optional "Security Switch": this has a 3-position lever that locks into the selected position so road potholes don't switch it for you while you ride. The middle position is OFF, and up or down is ON. It was done this way so it can be fumbled in the dark easier, and OFF kills the coils so there's no spark. This option is $15 extra on any model.
5. For larger bikes only, or if you have room for special edgewise mounting, another switch option is the "Points-OFF-Electronic" switch. This one lets you switch between the 3 modes without swapping wires, if you're worried about the unit failing (no one's ever hurt one yet, though...). This unit must be mounted on edge, because the lever does not lock into place: a big pothole shock could switch it to OFF while riding on smaller bikes, especially. This option is $25.
6. The "Resistor Pack" is designed to reduce the peak currents of the low-ohm Dyna (or similar) coils down to something these older bikes can handle better, while still preserving increased spark voltage. If you use this "Pack", you don't need the finned "Dyna-capable" type of unit, as the coil currents are closer to normal. If you order this item, you must specify the terminal type on your Dyna coils: screw or tab."


(This combination results in 24 possible Ignition units.) The prices vary up or down a few $ with each shipment of parts, because I'm trying to keep costs to minimums for everyone at SOHC4.

Invariably, this response generates at least 2 more e-mails back & forth, while the rider gets a clearer picture of what's really wanted and/or needed (sometimes not the same things!). Somewhere along the way, I find out where it will be shipped, which varies from $6.40 to $18 in postage. If something special arises, I order parts, and we e-mail some more. Typically, 1 day to 3 weeks later, we figure it out exactly, and I build it, test it thoroughly, and ship it. No one gets disappointed this way (although I did misunderstand someone once who's first language was not English, and we had to ship back & forth again: my fault, the way I see it...).

...and, this is just the Ignitions. Electrics can be like that.
The swingarms are a little more complicated.
I can hardly wait for the day I offer EFI...  ::) (Mine first!)

This just seems complex enough to defy much simplification...   :-\
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Re: the sohc4 store
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2008, 01:45:41 AM »
I'll be in with the gauge faces and other graphics. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2008, 07:47:15 AM »
If a unified shopping cart can be done it would make it a lot easier than multiple PM's, would the cart place the order with the manufacturers or would someone manually have to contact them?

I gave a few members a poke regarding the store, see how many are on-board with it.

The cart should send the money to each of the retailers (sohc members who sell stuff), and they will each be individually responsible for checking their email/Paypal to see if any orders have been placed.

Yes, it will place the order & the money will go to the seller.

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2008, 10:00:28 AM »
If it would work with whatever you are using for a store, I can set up the url store.sohc4.net to point at your pages directly.

Also, if there is interest in SOHC/4 sellers providing more detailed product descriptions, I encourage you all to check into sites.sohc4.net where anyone with an sohc4.net email address can create a web page.

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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2008, 08:39:18 PM »
If it would work with whatever you are using for a store, I can set up the url store.sohc4.net to point at your pages directly.

Also, if there is interest in SOHC/4 sellers providing more detailed product descriptions, I encourage you all to check into sites.sohc4.net where anyone with an sohc4.net email address can create a web page.

Wow, I didn't even know about this! Everyone always asks me for pictures...
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2008, 10:27:31 PM »
I'd just be willing to make a donation to offset any costs involved in setting up a store like this.  It is completely valuable to me to have some centralized "clearinghouse" for odd parts or custom member-produced parts.  Maybe there could be a discount for people who donate?  As long as they donate more than the dollar value of their discount.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2008, 12:57:36 AM »
I'm in.  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2008, 08:22:58 AM »
I cant offer goods, but like bung i`d be willing to offer a little to aid in the development of this clearly wonderful little shop......
The talent here, once it got going would become known outside the forum i`m sure.