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       Since my Dad has been diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure, I've looked it up on line, but I'd really like to hear some first hand info, if no one minds. I don't want to bring up any bad experiences or anything like that, it's just that sometimes I don't get much from some of those technical type articles, as I do from someone who can be pretty much straight forward and put it into language that I can understand, you know?

                                       Thanks for input,  Bill ;)
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it is by no means at all "terminal" my best friends father had congestive heart failure when i was 17 or so and carls dad is STILL going strong 23 years later. congestive heart failure isnt good but it could be ALOT worse Bill.

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Chronic heart failure (CHF) is a condition where the heart is weak and can not pump the blood up against gravity like from the leg areas.  The result is swelling of the ankles from pooling of blood and fluids.  There is medication that can help to reduce the fluid build up.  If not treated it can be fatal in the later stages.
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Legs swell from bad circulation which causes fluid to "pool".  He should wear compression socks to keep it down.  Personally, I like the ones without toes, but with heels.  I forgot why it's bad for fluid to collect in your legs- something about heart attack maybe.  He's not moving oxygen, so he gets tired easy.  A little listless.  Laying on his back may cause chest tightness because fluid will build up in his chest and put pressure on his heart and lungs, so he may feels more comfortable trying to sleep sitting up.  Not a huge panic- jillions of us old fu- uh- farts go through this.  He'll probably be prescribed some diuretic, blood pressure, maybe a cholesteral pill- who knows.

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One more thing;  I have known several people, including my mother, who died of a heart attack after complaining of pain in the back and shoulders.  NOT the usual symptoms they show on TV.  If he develops this kind of pretty intense pain, don't talk about manning up, or whatever. Get him to an ER.
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Can't offer much on this one Bill save to say maybe a PM to Medic09 may help...also I am not sure but I know Kitsune referenced an incident that occurred in the ER so I sorta assumed she was in the medical field (although I saw alot of ER things happen when I was merely a security guard at a Hospital so maybe my assumption was wrong).

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Bill,

As others have said bottom line is heart is not pumping strongly enough creating the congestion. Puts more of a fluid load on a weakening heart. Doesn't mean a "total failure" but rather weakening leading to eventual failure if not dealt with properly. Swelling ankles, etc and gurgling sound in chest due to fluid backup. Diuretics such as furosemide to help the kidneys remove more fluid and cardiac meds to strengthen/regulate the heart beat. Potassium supplements to replace the potassium the furosemide flushes out with the water. Steal all your dad's table salt. More salt = more fluid buildup to reach the normal saline content of body fluids. Watch for the ankle swelling and listen for chest gurgling/congestion especially if his breathing is becoming labored.   
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         Well, I was just looking to see what you all might be able to tell me (in a way that I understand, and you did) and I DO appreciate the info that was provided. Gives me a better understanding. I'm going down there Wednesday evening for the evening visiting time and stay in the area so I can be there for the next morning's visiting time also.


                            Thank you, one and all,  Bill ;)
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Bill, it is a syndrome that left unchecked is fatal. Sorry Bill, you wanted the truth and improperly treated that is the result.

The Heart fails to move fluid from the lungs. That is why they use drugs to remove the fluid.

If the fluid continues to build up in the lungs it further weakens the Heart and hampers and also the lungs ability to oxygenate the blood.

The Blood does not circulate well and that which does circulate carries a lower amount of oxygen which deprives the organs of oxygen.

The organs that are most sensitive to lower oxygen and poor circulation are the Kidneys whose job it is to remove fluid from the body among other things.

The kidneys begin to shut down and they fail to remove fluid which causes a further buildup of fluid which ultimately causes the heart to completely fail.

This is of course the worst case scenario. I know this syndrome since I watched a very close friend of mine go through this process. It was his 6th time in a 5 year period so his case was extreme.

Dad will be fine Bill, give him your love and your power to see him through.
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