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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2008, 04:20:14 PM »
The main reason the bus was evacuated the way it was was because the kid was already a goner by the time the screams were heard. The first strikes were at the throat...So instead of risking everyone elses lives it was better to get them off ASAP. The ones that did go back on to try to stop him were attacked for their efforts. If i recall right from the articles i read it was the guy that was sitting in front of them, the driver and a trucker that went back on to attempt to stop him. Besides not everyone is trained as a fighter and it would be a fools mission to attempt to stop something like that unless you are properly trained. The thing i dont get is that the RCMP didnt drop him right there. Nor do i get why the guy was only charged with second degree murder.
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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2008, 06:26:41 PM »
The main reason the bus was evacuated the way it was was because the kid was already a goner by the time the screams were heard. The first strikes were at the throat...So instead of risking everyone elses lives it was better to get them off ASAP. The ones that did go back on to try to stop him were attacked for their efforts. If i recall right from the articles i read it was the guy that was sitting in front of them, the driver and a trucker that went back on to attempt to stop him. Besides not everyone is trained as a fighter and it would be a fools mission to attempt to stop something like that unless you are properly trained. The thing i dont get is that the RCMP didnt drop him right there. Nor do i get why the guy was only charged with second degree murder.

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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2008, 06:32:52 PM »
Hopefully you were not bein sarcastic with that one lol...Sorry for the info overload there..been reading pretty much every article i can find on this.
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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2008, 07:04:42 PM »
The amount of damage you can do with a knife in seconds is pretter severe.  If passengers were to come to the aid of the doomed young man, the attacker would have the advantage of being able to fight only one or two guys at once, because the aisle doesn't provide much room.  I hate to say this, but I think I would of run off the bus with the other folks.  I think I would of assessed the situation, realized it was hopeless, and got out of dodge as quickly as possible. 

This story reminds of a question I still haven't found the answer for.

Is there really pure evil in the world?  Or are evil acts the by products of chemical imbalances and poor upbringing/abuse.  Society seems to want you to believe that evil acts are done by insane people who can't help what they are doing.  Could it be that there is no reason behind these acts?  Could it be that there is pure evil in the world? 

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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2008, 07:20:28 PM »
first degree murder has to be premeditated.  It's doubtful he was aiming at killing that specific kid in that way on that bus.  My guess was that he had a history of violence and should have been [more heavily] medicated.

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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2008, 08:07:37 PM »
Hopefully you were not bein sarcastic with that one lol...Sorry for the info overload there..been reading pretty much every article i can find on this.

No sarcasm at all. My apologies. I was thanking you for bringing a very informed perspective to the thread. I should have said, "Spot On, DarkRider."
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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2008, 10:31:46 PM »
What is this world coming to?

Just as a matter of perspective, this kind of stuff has happened from time to time for as long as you want to go back.  A certain percentage of the population has always been aberrant.  No doubt you have heard of Jack the Ripper.  Many people are not familiar with the details of the crimes attributed to ol' Jack.  You might check it out if you are curious, but they involved mutilation, among other things.  So what is the world coming to?  Looks to me like what its always been.  People have been hacking each other up for a long, long time.  I don't know if that is reassuring to you or not.
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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2008, 11:27:32 PM »
Just look at what Victorian culture has made us into!  ;D
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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2008, 11:30:30 PM »
Just look at what Victorian culture has made us into!  ;D

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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2008, 11:36:30 PM »
 ;D  ;D  ;D

You bunch of criminals ain't half bad, troppo  ;D
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Re: Greyhound bus tragedy
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2008, 07:02:30 AM »
Hopefully you were not bein sarcastic with that one lol...Sorry for the info overload there..been reading pretty much every article i can find on this.

Seems theres all sorts of nutballs out there...had a guy completely snap in the ER last night..that was nerve racking...came in on the ambulance unresponsive..he came to..and completely flipped out...

No sarcasm at all. My apologies. I was thanking you for bringing a very informed perspective to the thread. I should have said, "Spot On, DarkRider."
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