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Offline cleveland

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Re: Who has a 16 inch rim? I am having trouble getting a tire.
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2008, 08:15:23 PM »
What suspension issue are you talking about?  :-\

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ratio

Note the end of the first definition.  "5/2"  Dividing the first aspect by the second aspect.  ;)
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Re: Who has a 16 inch rim? I am having trouble getting a tire.
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2008, 10:26:13 PM »
There were a couple of posters here talking about 77-78 750's. I think they will take a bigger tire because they have wider swing arms than the 76 & earlier. They also have the bigger 630 chains.

Not to mention I have a 1974 CB550.   ;)

The topic asked about 16" rims & tires. You will probably have clearance problems with your chain unless you are going to get offset sprockets with a wider tire. Bridgestone list several good size 16" tires in their "Spitfire"  S11 series of tires.
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Re: Who has a 16 inch rim? I am having trouble getting a tire.
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2008, 06:15:57 AM »
What suspension issue are you talking about?  :-\

In regards to the joke:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ratio

Note the end of the first definition.  "5/2"  Dividing the first aspect by the second aspect.  ;)
The suspension issue is "unsprung weight". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsprung_weight

(There is also the issue of using a rectangular auto style profile on a single track vehicle. But most 16" have more rounded profiles now)

The weight of the wheel, part of the drivetrain and swingarm, lower part of the shock are unsprung, below the halfway point of the shocks. From an engineering standpoint this weight should be kept to a minimum to provide traction for braking and acceleration.

Imagine, the rear wheel hits a bump and is moving up, inertia wants it to keep moving up and the spring is trying to push it back down. If its heavy enough it overpowers the spring and the tire leaves the gound or lightens up considerably losing traction. For the rear, especially loses traction during braking causing a pogo effect.

The 16" wheel/tire combo is a holdover from days of hardtail chassis where the sidewall of the tire was part of the suspension.

Racers and performance builders eschew unsprung weight. Aren't cafes supposed to be performance bikes of a sort?

But in the final analysis, its to each their own in this area. Cafes are also style execizes. 

I prefer the ride quality of light wheels. I do like the look of the low profile 16" tires. But one would have to cut down their sidestand.
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Re: Who has a 16 inch rim? I am having trouble getting a tire.
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2008, 06:49:09 AM »
I had a 16x3 rim laced to my 550 hub.  Problem is that the guys at the local shop don't know what size tire to sell me.  They said we could guess until we get it right, but I would have to pay for each tire.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks guys.

Back to the original question, here's a chart I found. http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/rim_and_tire.htm

Seems I've read here that the 500/550 will accept up to a 5.00 without interference. Searching the forums may come up with it.

Found this in the FAQ. Scroll down to a discussion of tire size.

Still not the definitive answer to your question, but closer.
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