Author Topic: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes (Read 17016 times)

billybobobrain · « **Reply #75 on:** April 10, 2009, 09:31:52 AM »

I'm running out of time here, I am going to have to put this thing together as is and copper plate one peice at a time. This sucks, I have to be riding before may 11th.

Industrial Rat400f Killer · « **Reply #76 on:** April 10, 2009, 07:27:07 PM »

Join the club, my wiring is currently held in with zip ties until I get my new compartment built just so I can ride in between rain drops.

BeSeeingYou · « **Reply #77 on:** April 10, 2009, 09:21:41 PM »

Quote from: billybobobrain on March 26, 2009, 06:46:55 PM

Sorry Havoc,

Aluminum is very reactive with the first solution, It dissolves it and creates hydrogen gas, also sulfuric and hydrochloric acid will dissolve the aluminum so I don't think it would be a good idea to use my solution for plating valve covers as it has to be in the first solution for about 30 minutes and the second for about 3 hours. There would be nothing left to call a valve cover. But your local plating shop could probably do that, they have all the closely guarded secrets.

Aluminum in a caustic soda (lye) solution, this is the first bath I would use to plate steel or nickle.

Lye reacts with,

Aluminum
Magnesium
Zinc
Tin
Chromium
Brass
Bronze

To create hydrogen, in the process it dissolves the metal. Some it takes longer then others, the electricity speeds up the process.

For aluminum you want to anodize it. It is a very similar process and can be done at home. I have an article detailing this in a boatbuilding magazine but it is buried at the moment. It works the same way, a sulfuric acid bath, DC current and a piece of scrape aluminum for the cathode. The neat thing is the oxide coating is porous till it is heated and can be colored using regular clothing dye in a solution at a low temp, around 140 degrees. Afterward the part is sealed at a higher temp, around 180 degrees. You can also get dyes specifically for anodizing though I am sure they cost more. All the details can easily be found on the web, I am just remembering this from reading the article many years ago.

billybobobrain · « **Reply #78 on:** April 11, 2009, 11:25:12 PM »

So Krixxer gave me a list of stuff to try, some of which I am not capable of at this time and some that I was. So thanks to some great advice from Krixxer (Thanks), here is the end result on the clubmans. And to think I was on the brink of givving up on the copper plating until winter comes again..... patiance I just needed some patiance and to give it another try.

rachet · « **Reply #79 on:** April 12, 2009, 07:35:08 AM »

Those turned out Great Brain! I can only imagine how frustrating it can be, but with results like that

Keep at it, you'll get it.

Rach-

Porscheguy912 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 12, 2009, 08:45:04 AM »

Quote from: billybobobrain on April 11, 2009, 11:25:12 PM

So Krixxer gave me a list of stuff to try, some of which I am not capable of at this time and some that I was. So thanks to some great advice from Krixxer (Thanks), here is the end result on the clubmans. And to think I was on the brink of givving up on the copper plating until winter comes again..... patiance I just needed some patiance and to give it another try.

My Idea:
I Have a F3 with the black Motor. I Had Planned to get my Tank and every other chrome piece on my bike Copper plated this winter, Run Spoked wheels, Copper the rims and black the spokes with white walls. I called the plater with my tank at the last minute and changed my mind on the project and decided to go chrome on this bike and get my hands on another bike to do my "Black and Copper bike" The reasoning was that i didnt have the time or the money to get every thing copper'ed and clear coated before riding weather. I was also skeptical of how the tank would look copper with all the other parts Chrome til i could get the money and time to finish it.
Surprisingly enough your bars look pretty good next to the tripple trees.
Well done!

syth82 · « **Reply #81 on:** April 12, 2009, 11:30:06 AM »

Nice job on those bars.... Seems like there's another build going on right now with a copper theme. Cool look.

cdoggy81 · « **Reply #82 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:02:41 PM »

SWEET!!!

billybobobrain · « **Reply #83 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:07:49 PM »

Disaster strikes!!!

The beginning

Something is not right!

Anyone want some corroded 33mm fork tubes?

?

What the EFF!

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #84 on:** April 14, 2009, 10:31:58 PM »

Did you strip the chrome off them first??

billybobobrain · « **Reply #85 on:** April 15, 2009, 08:22:03 AM »

Yeah! There's supposed to be copper under the nickle and the exposed steel is supposed to be platable. After about an hour and a half the caps were nicely plated but the tubes were grey, corroded an a lot smaller then the are supposed to be. Where the mickle stayed on the tubes there was a deep ridge and deep pits. It also looks like my solution is contaminated.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #86 on:** April 15, 2009, 08:29:13 AM »

Quote from: billybobobrain on April 15, 2009, 08:22:03 AM

Yeah! There's supposed to be copper under the nickle and the exposed steel is supposed to be platable. After about an hour and a half the caps were nicely plated but the tubes were grey, corroded an a lot smaller then the are supposed to be. Where the mickle stayed on the tubes there was a deep ridge and deep pits. It also looks like my solution is contaminated.

Damn dude I'm sorry.

I have a set of 750 forks if you need em. I'll trade you straight up for plating my risers??

Hope it works out for you.

billybobobrain · « **Reply #87 on:** April 15, 2009, 08:34:27 AM »

Let me see if I can get the solution cleaned out and we'll make a deal

billybobobrain · « **Reply #88 on:** April 24, 2009, 12:06:09 AM »

Its 1:00am just got in from the garage, got the tank painted, handlebers shortend, controlls put on, mirrors on, swing arm painted, and installed. Pictures another day.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #89 on:** April 28, 2009, 04:41:16 PM »

Hi Billy, thought you may be interested in this...
http://alsacorp.com/products/ghostchrome/ghostchrome.htm

have a look at the "copper" finish.

Mick

billybobobrain · « **Reply #90 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:03:55 PM »

Looks good, I have thought about doing that on the wheels. Thanks for the link!

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #91 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:15:41 AM »

I have GSXR rims on my project and i am thinking of using the "mirror chrome on them, i was going to get them polished so it would save me having to polish the alloy all the time.

Mick

billybobobrain · « **Reply #92 on:** June 20, 2009, 12:52:45 PM »

Hey, a few people have pm'd me wondering where i'm at. I'm still here.

After a few trips with no seat... its very fast!

Some of you may remember a few months back when some doctors told me my hand wasn't broken, well they were wrong. I had surgery a few weeks ago and have not felt like typing on the computer all that much. The good news is I think it will be well enough to finish my seat next weekend... I hope.

It feel a lot better then it looks.

rachet · « **Reply #93 on:** September 20, 2009, 08:53:27 AM »

I've been going through all the threads and rediscovered this one. Why is Billy a "guest"? Did he ever recover from his surgery? Did he get a seat for his bike? So many unanswered questions!

Frankenkit · « **Reply #94 on:** September 20, 2009, 10:09:15 AM »

I think he's been on as 'billybob' since then...

rachet · « **Reply #95 on:** September 20, 2009, 04:34:22 PM »

thanks Kit!

going4speed · « **Reply #96 on:** December 31, 2010, 09:35:10 AM »

Looks great

Skipped a few steps on the build log

Quote from: billybob on December 30, 2010, 08:45:47 PM

just in case anyone cared...

Zaipai · « **Reply #97 on:** December 31, 2010, 12:45:53 PM »

Nice, love the clubmans, they seemed to have turned out very nice.

.: Scott :.

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