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Offline tom8Toe

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Assistance need regarding electrical issue on my CB400/4:
« on: August 09, 2008, 02:56:31 PM »
Can anyone tell me if running too high of wattage bulb in the tail light can create more of a draw on the battery then what my charging system can keep up with and hide what would other wise be an easy diagnosis?

The bulb attached is the bulb I pulled out: Model seems to be 1157KLF (I'm not sure but...) S3A 38 Some of the characters seem to have been rubbed off.
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Re: Assistance need regarding electrical issue on my CB400/4:
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 03:23:22 PM »
standard bulb is a '380' 5w for tail light 21w for brake light, pins will be offset for correct alignment with contacts. I believe that would be the same for US market.
Watts are a unit of power so yes if you try to run a higher wattage it would use more power and also be brighter.
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Re: Assistance need regarding electrical issue on my CB400/4:
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 03:35:09 PM »
Go buy a new bulb!
Cheapest way to tell if it is causing you grief. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

Offline tom8Toe

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Re: Assistance need regarding electrical issue on my CB400/4:
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 03:47:35 PM »
Thanks guys. I appreciate the info.

Go buy a new bulb!
Cheapest way to tell if it is causing you grief. ;D

Yeah, I probably should have before I started replacing the regulator, rectifier, fuse box, stator unit, and brand new wiring harness (which by the way wasn't exactly cheap. But hey, I can rule out the wire harness for the most part).  ;D ;D ;D
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"A model built for comfort, really built with style Specialist tradition, mama, let me feast my eyes" - Led Zeppelin

Current:
2014 Triumph Scrambler

Past Rides:
'89 Kawasaki EX500 (Crashed)
'72 BSA A75 Rocket3 (Sold)
'65 Honda CB450 Black Bomber (Stolen, never recovered)
'89 Honda GB500 (Sold)
'75 Honda CB400F (Sold)
'08 Triumph Bonneville T-100 (Sold)
'14 Triumph Scrambler

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Offline TomC

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Re: Assistance need regarding electrical issue on my CB400/4:
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2008, 03:53:34 PM »
Hi tom8toe
     The difference between an 1157 and a "380" is 3 watts as a tail light. Big deal if 3 watts is a problem you have a bigger problem.
     I am currently running a 55/60 watt headlight. And did so before I started playing with the voltage regulator. The headlight draws 20 watts more on low beam than the stock headlight.
     I do not remember what your original problem was. There is a basic problem with the charging system. On my CB400F1 which has as I said a 55/60 watt headlight and a non stock voltage regulating system at 1200rpm the alternator is producing 2 amps, better than nothing, but the the lights and ignition system are drawing almost 8 amps. Some were between 2,000 and 3,000 rpm the alternator is producing more than the lights and ignition are using. Above that rpm the alternator can start charging the battery. Clearly any reduction in the current draw is going to help. With my current system if three quarters of the time my engine is running it is above 3,000rpm my battery stays charged but if it is a idle more that a quarter of the time the charge goes down hill. I live out out in the country so I am OK. But if I go into a city I see my battery voltage go down. 
          TomC in Ohio
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