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Stocker?  Cafe?  

triffecpa
8 (7.9%)
bgfootball67
18 (17.8%)
charlieT
18 (17.8%)
Johnie
32 (31.7%)
tsflstb
25 (24.8%)

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Voting closed: September 01, 2008, 07:17:19 AM

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September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« on: August 18, 2008, 07:17:19 AM »
I don't believe bgfootball got seconded and I will sure help out on that one!
Now, lets get down to it.


triffecpa's race bred 400...


bgfootball67's gorgeous 750 cafe...

The build thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=28346.0

CharlieT's sweet little repli-racer...


Johnie's beautiful stocker...


tsflstb's custom 400 that deserves a win too... hey, down here, look here.   ;D


all right guys, if you want to add more pictures, story or links... please feel free.
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 01:11:35 PM »
Darn it. I am at work and can only see SOME image hosting sites. Then only bike I can see is Johnie's. Granted, I have no problems looking at Johnie's bike...   ;D ;)  but I'll have to wait until I get home to vote... just to be fair...
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 01:46:45 PM »
While I can appreciate the work that went into all the bikes.  Johnie's is the only one I would enjoy riding farther than a few blocks.  I just kinda feel that a bike should be able to have some serious saddle time rather than oggling time.
Now, if some of the race type bikes had trophies next to them, I might be more impressed and swayed.

I guess I'm too old to have a desire to punish myself during a ride.

Just sayin'...

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 02:23:59 PM »
TT's got a point. But being a visual sort I just can't help myself. :-\

Is it a completely ridiculous idea to have categories? Just a thought.



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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 03:16:28 PM »
BG does it for me , stripped down, polished up and all business  8) 8)

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2008, 08:39:29 PM »
While I can appreciate the work that went into all the bikes.  Johnie's is the only one I would enjoy riding farther than a few blocks.  I just kinda feel that a bike should be able to have some serious saddle time rather than oggling time.
Now, if some of the race type bikes had trophies next to them, I might be more impressed and swayed.

I guess I'm too old to have a desire to punish myself during a ride.

Just sayin'...

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Sorry, tt, but I would disagree. I put araound 16k miles on my Valkyrie the last two years, maybe 25 miles on my Beta Techno and probably a couple of hundred on my CRF200R. Does that mean only the Valkyrie is a worthy bike? COme to think of it, the Beta doesn't really even have a seat, so I guess it would automatically be out of the running for serious seat time validity. As for the CRF, well 200-300 miles of tight single track is far more taxing and chanllenging than rolling up the numbers on the valkyrie.

One reason I have such a variety of motorcycles is that I like them all. My GoldWing tourer, the Valkyrie cruiser, the old RWB INterceptor sportbike, THe CRF trail bike, the Beta trials bike, the Old Penton Six-Day enduro bike, the Elsinore MX'er, they each have their own personalities and their own purpose. Maybe some can't appreciate the variety and varied purposes a motorcycle can serve. Maybe some cannot appreciate that a single model of bike can be turned into many different things.

Maybe ecosse is right  about categories. I've done stock OEM style restorations, I've done swaps (CRF450 chassis + XR200 motor = CRF200R), and I've modified bikes for a number of "looks. Each has its own merits and values. Personally, doing the stock to OEM restore , though chalenging, was the least rewarding to me. Once done, it was like any other return to stock, like "new" restoration. The bike had no personality, no individuality, there was no "soul" put into it. Now that's not saying a stock OEM restoration is easy. Not by a long shot, in fact it can be much more difficult than simply modifying a bike, but still, it does not give the bike any soul. It does not reflect the creativity and vision of of the owner, but instead reflects only the original design.

I guess that's why we see so many different styles in this forum. From the purists to the radical and anywhere in between. Bikes can mean a lot of different things to different people. Even the very same bike can mean something so dissimilar to two different people.

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2008, 08:55:55 PM »
Heffay, I do believe I seconded bgfootball's bike right before I nominated Charlie's.

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2008, 09:52:28 PM »
Great selection this time around as usual!!! I ain't tellin' who I picked :D
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 10:22:41 PM »
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While I can appreciate the work that went into all the bikes.  Johnie's is the only one I would enjoy riding farther than a few blocks.  I just kinda feel that a bike should be able to have some serious saddle time rather than oggling time.
Now, if some of the race type bikes had trophies next to them, I might be more impressed and swayed.

I guess I'm too old to have a desire to punish myself during a ride.

Just sayin'...

Cheers,

Aw come on...it's not punishment - just heightenend awareness.  Clip ons bolted firmly to the more rigid forks - feels like you're steering the bike by the front axle.  Firmer rear shocks and a thinly padded seat let you feel the bike squirm over that loose asphalt in the last corner.  Less weight and changes to steering geometry let you flick it back and forth with little effort.  If it's too loud, you're...well you know.

That being said, if it's more than an hour away I'm taking the Beemer. ;)

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 11:06:44 PM »
TT's got a point. But being a visual sort I just can't help myself. :-\

Is it a completely ridiculous idea to have categories? Just a thought.

I like the tough competition.  I think if we divided them up, we'd end up with one bike in each category. 
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2008, 11:13:01 PM »
TT's got a point. But being a visual sort I just can't help myself. :-\

Is it a completely ridiculous idea to have categories? Just a thought.

I like the tough competition.  I think if we divided them up, we'd end up with one bike in each category. 

Good point and I hadn't considered that; maybe if the number of nominees grows significantly larger it might be worth considering.
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 06:14:16 AM »
I like the tough competition.  I think if we divided them up, we'd end up with one bike in each category. 

its been discussed, no its not ridiculous, and we may do the occasional "specialized category" bike of the month but this is SOHC4 of the month... not _____ sohc4 of the month. 

don't use excuses like "there's too many kinds, i can't pick."   :P ;D
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 06:48:15 AM »
I kind of like having to make a decision between several types or styles,and I have voted for cafe',stock and bobber,depending on how a particular bike affects me at that time,I have only done semi-restores myself ,and that is my prefrence for now,but i think that any bike that has been *built mostly by it's owner*,not by a custom shop or factory,is a work of art/love,

but I personally would like to see bike of the month limited to 3-4 entries a month,and no catagories 
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 07:58:30 AM »
Aw come on...it's not punishment - just heightenend awareness. 
Well, that IS the function of pain; heightened awareness.
One thing I've learned over the years is that you can make machines more rugged and last longer.  But, the human body components have basic design limits that can easily be shortened in duration of use.  I don't need physical damage and/or pain to feel "more alive".  And, I'm glad I didn't trade extreme thrills at 30 and 40, for mobility at 50 and 60.  ( I was just danged lucky at 25 and younger. ::) )

Clip ons bolted firmly to the more rigid forks - feels like you're steering the bike by the front axle.
And, the increased pressure on hands wrists elbows, shoulders, and spine, transfer every bump in the road to the cushions in each bone joint.  Don't you think these body parts might be of more use when they are pain free?

Firmer rear shocks and a thinly padded seat let you feel the bike squirm over that loose asphalt in the last corner. 
Loose asphalt is one thing.  Pot holes, uneven pavement,  an road debris are quite another.  Guess where the firm shocks and thin padding allow road shock to transfer?  The riders back/body.  Might as well mount a seat on a jackhammer with the punch power turned low.  Bikes built specifically for the track are unsuitable for ordinary and poorly maintained roadways.

If it's too loud, you're...well you know.
Yes, I do know.  You put the TV volume at 60 instead of 30, even in the dead of night when there is no other sound, so you can hear the dialog.  "Closed captioned" is always enabled, but you wonder what LASER BLAST really sounds like.
You can only notice that the neighbors are arguing, but can't make out what the yelling is about.  When their baby cries, it doesn't keep you awake.  You can live in low rent areas next to railroad tracks and airports, cause the noise isn't that bad. You learn to live with everyday ringing on your ears that never stops and leaves you in agony on the edge of madness.  See: Tinnitus

That being said, if it's more than an hour away I'm taking the Beemer. ;)
Gee, I wonder why?   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 08:49:34 AM »
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Clip ons bolted firmly to the more rigid forks - feels like you're steering the bike by the front axle.
And, the increased pressure on hands wrists elbows, shoulders, and spine, transfer every bump in the road to the cushions in each bone joint.  Don't you think these body parts might be of more use when they are pain free?


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Firmer rear shocks and a thinly padded seat let you feel the bike squirm over that loose asphalt in the last corner. 
Loose asphalt is one thing.  Pot holes, uneven pavement,  an road debris are quite another.  Guess where the firm shocks and thin padding allow road shock to transfer?  The riders back/body.  Might as well mount a seat on a jackhammer with the punch power turned low.  Bikes built specifically for the track are unsuitable for ordinary and poorly maintained roadways.


Quote from: tsflstb on Today at 01:22:41 am
If it's too loud, you're...well you know.
Yes, I do know.  You put the TV volume at 60 instead of 30, even in the dead of night when there is no other sound, so you can hear the dialog.  "Closed captioned" is always enabled, but you wonder what LASER BLAST really sounds like.
You can only notice that the neighbors are arguing, but can't make out what the yelling is about.  When their baby cries, it doesn't keep you awake.  You can live in low rent areas next to railroad tracks and airports, cause the noise isn't that bad. You learn to live with everyday ringing on your ears that never stops and leaves you in agony on the edge of madness.  See: Tinnitus

1.) Stay loose - try to use trunk muscles and grip the tank with my knees to take weight off my wrists.  Reserve weight on the clip-ons for steering inputs only.

2.) I keep the balls of my feet on the pegs and rear end resting lightly on the seat when not cornering.  Use knees and thigh muscles to absorb larger shocks.

3.) Earplugs   ;)

It can be done, I just have to approach riding the 400 as an involving physical activity.  Riding is a good workout and rewarding if I concentrate on doing those things above.  A twisty road or racetrack is more fun, but even commuter traffic is tolerable if you're in the right mood. 

I do realize those moods will be fewer and farther between as I age though - hence the R80RT in the garage.  I find it just as rewarding to sit in comfort and watch the scenery sometimes.

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2008, 10:35:52 AM »
First time I've voted.

But what a choice, all great bikes everyone one of em.

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 07:25:46 PM »
Johnie gets my vote.  I love the cafes and appreciate the work that went into creating them, but after a while they start to look the same to me.  Maybe next month I'll vote for one of 'em. ;)
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 08:10:32 PM »
Johnie gets my vote.  I love the cafes and appreciate the work that went into creating them, but after a while they start to look the same to me.  Maybe next month I'll vote for one of 'em. ;)

+1. A certain red 400 is one of my favorites but I voted Johnie this month- a real (and beautiful) time machine!


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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2008, 10:00:41 PM »
I gotta go for another Cafe! Nice and clean and all adrenalin!
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2008, 09:35:47 AM »
The sweet thing about this is that we have to nit-pick to make a choice.   ;D   Do I like the seat on that one? How about the rims on that one? Is the restoration, in my mind, cleaner than the cafe? Did he do a good job on the bobber?

For me, it came down to a choice of Aesthetics. The way a seat looked on my second choice didn't quite move me as much as my first choice. I love having to make that hard decision... as much as I complain about it...  ;)
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2008, 08:29:40 PM »
tsflstb... FTW.  I will continue to vote until this damn guy wins... You're bike makes certain parts of me go crazy ;)

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2008, 10:44:40 AM »
well at least that last comment wasn't wierd

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2008, 11:02:32 AM »
Man, something about tsflstbs bike is just right.

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2008, 02:28:32 PM »
Man, something about tsflstbs bike is just right.



spikey... refer to the above.  it was my way of saying if I had a 400, it would look identical to that and I would be 100% please with it.

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2008, 01:58:52 PM »
I look at Johnnies bike and say to myself.."Yeah, that is what I want mine to be like".  I love that bike!

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2008, 02:29:08 PM »
I look at Johnnies bike and say to myself.."Yeah, that is what I want mine to be like".  I love that bike!

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2008, 10:51:15 AM »
Yyyyeeeesssssssssss! Stockers rule once more!!!! Well done Johnie!!

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2008, 12:17:08 PM »
Great stuff Johnie, congrats.

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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2008, 12:19:15 PM »
Well done Johnie well deserved!

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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2008, 02:23:27 PM »
Congrats Johnie!!!  With this win, the people's choice award at that show, and the many more I am sure you will win, you are going to need to use that patio as a trophy room. :) :)
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2008, 02:57:57 PM »
Gee...thanks a lot guys!!!  I am humbled by your messages and being in the company of so many outstanding bikes.  Thank you again...  ;D
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Re: September SOHC-FOUR of the month for 2008
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2008, 07:39:35 AM »
tflstb's little rocket has got my vote.

It looks to me like a little red pit bull, just rarin' to go

After looking at some of the member's bikes done like this, I am leaning toward going the rest of the way with my K3 to cafe it out but I'm not sure where to start, on a good note I just rented the garage next to my house. The bonus of being Canadian is that I have from late Oct till early March to get it ready for the next year.

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