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Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« on: August 19, 2008, 06:40:50 PM »
I truly despise going there for anything.
     I have to wait for all the drag racers to do their bench racing and leave. I've never seen those guys buy anything...And here I am ready to spend my money for parts and I have to wait on freeloading idiots with nothing better to do than sprawl out on the parts counter and talk about reaction times, ET's, buy-backs, dial-in's, etc...
     When the racer guys leave I get the "I really don't want to wait on you" attitude. I think this attitude is exacerbated by the fact that my requests are for 30 year old parts that may require a little extra time and effort to look up and confirm availability. 
     Then the prices are usually 1/3 more than I can get online. The local dealers advantage is they can get the parts within a week whereas online usually takes 2 weeks.

     Thanks for letting me vent.... Does anyone else have a similar OEM dealer?
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 06:43:28 PM »
Thankfully, I don't. The guys at my local Honda shop are really cool to work with and they go the extra mile to help me out. I give them a lot of business, and they appreciate it. I still have yet to qualify for the "frequent flyer" parts discount, but I'm workin' on it...
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 06:45:10 PM »
It's time to look up the district or regional manager for the Honda dealers in your area and bend his ear a little.  They don't like having to hear that kind of stuff.  And tell him you posted your gripe on a world-wide-web Honda forum  ;)  It would also help if you had names, dates and the times you were there.
I generally have no problems at the service department or the parts counter at my local dealer, but more times than not they either can't get or have to special order any parts.  You get kinda used to the little "beep" the computer makes when there isn't any part available.  ::)
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 07:14:59 PM »
I used to work at the dealer I frequent.  The racers like the ones you describe usually hang out in the accessories dept.  I realize that most dealers don't separate the two.  Also, the philosophy there is  geared towards the customer and doing so  in a quick and efficient manner.  And Steve is right.  Talk to the district manager.  They do listen.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 07:39:41 PM »
Manager at my dealer rides a 74 CB750...nuff said. ;D
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 07:44:53 PM »
My local Honda shop sucks.

They just want to sell you a new bike and don't want to double check parts for older ones.

I have a great small shop around a few miles away, small parts counter, friendly service.  Sometimes the same as I can find on the web, often an even bet when you factor in shipping.

They're the best.

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 07:46:43 PM »
I'm a DRAG RACER so I'd best keep quiet ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 07:47:03 PM »
I get awesome service ; the wait times are well worth the service. There are a few guys on the counter I can count on to dig into the microfich and all are willing to help keep my old machines alive ...couldn't get by without them and their assistance (plus u guys at this forum). Prices are good too...
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 07:48:01 PM »
Parts guy at the nearest dealer had never heard of a CB550 and had no clue about how to look up parts for one.


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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 08:04:48 PM »
My dealer is just fine.  I like to do my homework and walk in with the part numbers ready.  I give them the list, a week later the parts arrive.  I tend to use them when I need a few things-  If I'm ordering a mess of parts, I'd rather have it shipped to my house from service honda.

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 08:06:00 PM »
Oh and I get a 15 - 20% discount  ;D
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 08:06:54 PM »
I used to work at the dealer I frequent.  The racers like the ones you describe usually hang out in the accessories dept.  I realize that most dealers don't separate the two.  Also, the philosophy there is  geared towards the customer and doing so  in a quick and efficient manner.  And Steve is right.  Talk to the district manager.  They do listen.
I too used to work at my local Honda dealer as a service writer part time, many moons ago, and we were always on our toes and didn't dare "kick back" as that really doesn't go over well with the customers (or the manager).  My manager always said to us the we are to treat the customer like they're the most important thing in the world.  That dealer has been around for maybe 40 years now(?)
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 09:26:47 PM »
I have a bunch of great guys at the Ecklund Honda dealership in Oshkosh, WI.  All the way from Chuck the service manager to Tony and Ian in parts and Dan in service.  They always treat me good and will go out of their way to take care of my old bikes.  Of course, I never forget them at Christmas with some cheese, sausage, crackers and popcorn.  They appreciate the snacks at the shop for sure.  Give it a try... ;D
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 09:29:50 PM »
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 03:35:21 AM »
I havent had much problems other then wait times with parts ordered from my honda dealer so far though it has been parts for the Interceptor and not the CBs. However i may have issues in the future since the dealer i used to frequent has closed its doors and has been replaced by a full line honda dealer.
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 06:02:07 AM »
the guy by me is just a old motorcycle parts dealer
never had a problem with the way i get treated
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 07:13:01 AM »
I love my honda dealer!
Anything I've needed so far he's had in stock, and by the time you factor in shipping costs - it's about dead even with internet purchases.
My only gripe is they have hired a kid, and if he answers the phone you're screwed.
The other two guys are deep into their 50's, and super knowledgeable.
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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 07:38:45 AM »
Parts guy at the nearest dealer had never heard of a CB550 and had no clue about how to look up parts for one.


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+2.  There are only two people who work at the parts counter that I will talk to anymore, one of them is a member of this forum so knows his sh*t about cbs (I think he has a 500 or a 550...)  and the other probably owned one back in the day but is a GHOF that I trust.  EVERYONE else has either expressed incredible difficulty in understanding about older models, gotten the wrong parts, or given me the BSD (Blank Stare of Death). 

My favorite is one of the new chicks who, when my gf asked for an exhaust gasket for her LS650, argued and argued *with my partner* that the model name couldn't possibly be 'LS650P' if it was a savage! It had to be a SV650 or something, which, of course, she couldn't find.  Then she pulls out a little paper part and says "Oh! It's in stock."
...the hell it is, and the hell that's an *exhaust gasket*. 

I went back to the counter and verbally slapped the woman, and got us what we were looking for- the little metallic exhaust crush washer.  What a pain.  This all took over an hour, too.   The dealership primarily focuses on dirtbikes and their accessories.  There's a tiny, tiny corner in the back with saddle bags, sissy bars, etc.  No footpegs to be found, and most accessories are cheap crap.  The women's sections are limited to one row of leathers and a tiny section near the bathrooms (between the bags and the gloves) of wall to wall rhinestones and pink.  Where is the utility? The only good part about their clothes section is Jennifer, an older biker chick who knows her stuff about leathers and pointed us both in good directions for our gear. 

With those few exceptions, I hate that store and only go in to pick up the necessities, which I can buy cheaper ordering online and having shipped there, than actually going in and having them order from the counter (?!) I have no idea how that works.  Sometimes it's a $5.00 difference. >:(
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 08:02:16 AM »
We used to have a pretty good Honda Shop here in town.  Parts counter persons were attentive, and eager to get what you needed, whatever year the bike was.  I did so much business with them, the parts manager offered a 15% discount, too.

About eight years ago, business was so good, they moved about a half mile down the street to a building at least 5 times the size of the oil one.  Same great service for about a year, when it was sold to new owners.  Over the next year, all the parts counter personnel were replaced with dullards.  Who would tell you the parts were available before even trying to look it up.  If you insisted, they would reluctantly glance at the computer screen to find they were wrong.  Of course, the discount I had was rescinded.
I reasoned with the part manager that I could buy the same parts over the internet or phone for less than what he sold, PLUS I had to pay sales tax, and the delivery times weren't that different.
He said they didn't need to have discounts and were just cutting their own throats with that practice.  And, that they had rescinded discounts on 95% of the prior customers that had them.  Out and Out stated that the real money was in selling new bikes and servicing, rather than selling parts for old ones. 

I found other sources for parts.

Two years later they filed for bankruptcy.

Six month after that they reopened.  Exact same policies.  But, they cut back on staff.  The ones with knowledge, left for other jobs, and were replaced with newbies, that could operate their computer's search function only on rare occasions, and were quick to denigrate any bike older than 5 years, as "relics and dinosaurs".
I didn't return for more abuse and disappointment.

Last year, they closed their doors for the last time and sold all the service tools as part of the business liquidation.

I order parts through the local MC shop here in town now.  It does take a bit longer ti get than the old Honda shop.  But, I get a discount.

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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 05:07:06 PM »
We used to have a pretty good Honda Shop here in town.  Parts counter persons were attentive, and eager to get what you needed, whatever year the bike was.  ..... it was sold to new owners.  Over the next year, all the parts counter personnel were replaced with dullards. 

I found other sources for parts.

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That's pretty much what the local independent guy said about the dealer down the road, when I asked him about the twit at the Honda store.

It took the local guy 2 days to get me a chain without o-rings(had fancy stuff in stock of course). I could have got one off the net and plopped on my porch for a couple bucks more.

I would add that the aforementioned "nearest dealer" is a 60 mile round trip. ... too much traveling to deal with idiots.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 06:07:04 PM »
Art,

I'm one of the few I know in Bham who actually likes ICON.  The guys at the parts counter there know me, and are great.  I ride one of the old bikes out there every now and then and they all ooh & ahh.

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 06:10:06 PM »
Art,

I'm one of the few I know in Bham who actually likes ICON.  The guys at the parts counter there know me, and are great.  I ride one of the old bikes out there every now and then and they all ooh & ahh.

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Re: Do you dislike your local Honda parts counter as much as I?
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 06:13:14 PM »
I truly despise going there for anything.
     I have to wait for all the drag racers to do their bench racing and leave. I've never seen those guys buy anything...And here I am ready to spend my money for parts and I have to wait on freeloading idiots with nothing better to do than sprawl out on the parts counter and talk about reaction times, ET's, buy-backs, dial-in's, etc...
     When the racer guys leave I get the "I really don't want to wait on you" attitude. I think this attitude is exacerbated by the fact that my requests are for 30 year old parts that may require a little extra time and effort to look up and confirm availability. 
     Then the prices are usually 1/3 more than I can get online. The local dealers advantage is they can get the parts within a week whereas online usually takes 2 weeks.

     Thanks for letting me vent.... Does anyone else have a similar OEM dealer?

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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 07:53:36 PM »
Boy.. some of these posts are making me very thankful my local shop is a good one. I happened onto them by pure accident, as I was in a local auto parts store looking for NGK plugs. They didn't have the ones I needed, but they referred me to this dealer.

As for dealing with "kids", I have a couple stories (I first listed these in the "CB Quotables" thread:

(Scene one, service department, local Honda dealer)
Me- "I need this chain cut and riveted."
Kid in shop- "OK, I can take care of that."
Me, back later after finding out the chain was only cut- "I said I needed this chain riveted."
Shop manager, old timer who knows these bikes- "No problem."
Kid who cut the chain- "He needs to bring in his bike before I can do that."
Shop manager- "Why?"
Kid- "It has to go through the swingarm. If it's riveted together, he won't be able to put it on the bike. "
Manager- "No, He has an old CB750 with a simple U-shaped swingarm. The chain will simply loop over it."
Kid- "Honda never made one like that..."
(Argument between them continues for about 10 minutes, I finally get my chain riveted and leave the service department happy...)

(Scene two, powersports shop on a trip 300 miles from home)
Conterman- "Can I have the VIN number please?"
Me- "Sure. CB7502222***."
Counterman- "Are you sure?"
Me- "Yes, that's what the VIN plate says. Plus, it's also stamped on the other side of the steering neck."
Counterman- "Wow... I've never seen one like that before..."
Me- "That's how they used to do it.." (While praying they will know how to properly remove the front wheel without breaking something and leaving me stranded..)
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 09:10:18 PM »
We used to have a pretty good Honda Shop here in town.  Parts counter persons were attentive, and eager to get what you needed, whatever year the bike was.  I did so much business with them, the parts manager offered a 15% discount, too.

About eight years ago, business was so good, they moved about a half mile down the street to a building at least 5 times the size of the oil one.  Same great service for about a year, when it was sold to new owners.  Over the next year, all the parts counter personnel were replaced with dullards.  Who would tell you the parts were available before even trying to look it up.  If you insisted, they would reluctantly glance at the computer screen to find they were wrong.  Of course, the discount I had was rescinded.
I reasoned with the part manager that I could buy the same parts over the internet or phone for less than what he sold, PLUS I had to pay sales tax, and the delivery times weren't that different.
He said they didn't need to have discounts and were just cutting their own throats with that practice.  And, that they had rescinded discounts on 95% of the prior customers that had them.  Out and Out stated that the real money was in selling new bikes and servicing, rather than selling parts for old ones. 

I found other sources for parts.

Two years later they filed for bankruptcy.

Six month after that they reopened.  Exact same policies.  But, they cut back on staff.  The ones with knowledge, left for other jobs, and were replaced with newbies, that could operate their computer's search function only on rare occasions, and were quick to denigrate any bike older than 5 years, as "relics and dinosaurs".
I didn't return for more abuse and disappointment.

Last year, they closed their doors for the last time and sold all the service tools as part of the business liquidation.

I order parts through the local MC shop here in town now.  It does take a bit longer ti get than the old Honda shop.  But, I get a discount.

Cheers,Hey Lloyd....are you talking about Milpitas Honda? I went to high school with the old owner,Tom Krueger. When he first started out,its like you said....great place to do business with. That was late 80's.I don't know what happened after that cause I moved to Redding.He did tires and a Kerker 4to1 on my old Kawi 1000 right before I moved north and did me a good job at a decent price. The last dealership I did business with was Modesto Honda/Kawasaki and all I wanted to do there was poke the dumb a$$ kid behind the counters eyes out!!!


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