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Interesting Carb issue - CB750 K0
« on: November 17, 2008, 07:15:32 AM »
I have 2 sets of carbs for my Jan 1970 CB750. 1 set are the original ones & the other is a spare set from ebay.

They have booth been cleaned using Berryman's Chemdip.

The original set give slightly pale plugs when set as per the manual - 26mm float height & one turn out on the idle mixture screws. Runs OK though. Turning the air screws in half a turn or so will speed up the engine at idle but then she hesitates on acceleration

When I move ALL the internals (Jets, needles, needle jets, floats & valves) over to the spare set, all 4 plugs are a bit black, and turning the idle screws half a turn either way doesn't seem to alter the idle speed.

Perhaps one of our experts would know if the carbs had changes made early on. I have read that the early float levels were 24mm. Is this what I should use on the original set?

thanks

David

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Re: Interesting Carb issue - CB750 K0
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 08:46:20 PM »
David:
It sounds like blocked air passages in the "other" carb set. The most likely: the tiny one that goes from the itty-bitty brass hole at the air horn end, down and forward to the emulsifier tube. These get blocked from non-use, mostly, and from other debris, especially if they were run without air filters.

To clean them, remove the emulsifier tube and the jet needle (that's the brass hole in the middle of the carb throat, where the needle slides in & out), by tapping gently down with a plastic something-or-other to avoid damage. Then, use a small (22 AWG or smaller), flexible mechanic's wire and push it in the little brass opening, then down about 3-4mm, then forward to the emulsifier tube area. You'll see it arrive in there, with a strong light. Run it back & forth to scrape out the deposits, then pull out the wire and spray some carb cleaner through the hole, watch your eyes! It will go everywhere...

When these tubes are partially blocked, the midrange runs real rich and the idle screws have little or no effect on the low speed mixture, pretty common.

The carbs: check on the top of the front flange of each carb set, see if the stamped-in number is the same, at least before the final letter (which indicated mainjet changes). With the exception of the cable-type carbs, almost all "K" series carb parts will fit all other "K" series carbs. Within the early K0, the first few months of production had some different cable mount nipples on top, different cable (shorter #4 cable, and even the 4-in-1 and 4-2-1 arrangement cables). All floats should be set at 26mm after the sandcast cases disappeared. The sandcast ones did have some 24mm settings (like my friend Jim's bike), but Honda's reps told us to lower it to 26mm to reduce the plug fouling tendencies of the K0. We were required to do so on all bikes that came in for any warranty work, and got paid for it, $8!  :o

So, then, we racers immediately went to 24mm to get the extra high-end HP and low-end torque, heck with the sparkplugs!  ;D
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Re: Interesting Carb issue - CB750 K0
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 04:59:49 AM »
Thanks....Dipping in solvent helped, but I'll give them a scrape. I need something to do over the winter, since apart from the carbs the bike is fine and needs no tinkering.

David