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Re: Spring has sprung! Terry's first K0 ride today!
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2007, 01:47:35 AM »
OK mate, you're on!  ;D
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2007, 08:15:13 AM »
Well I woke up this morning (geez, that might be a good start for a blues song!) with the intention of doing some chores, then more engine parts painting, (my 836 engine is rapidly coming together) but the wife went out early to visit her Mom, so the chores were forgotten and as soon as she drove out of sight, I fired up my beautiful K0 to go for a quick blast.

As it was a tad over 90 degrees F, my first stop was the Beveridge pub, for a pint of my current favorite beer, "Pure Blonde". I rode by SteveK0's place to see if he was home, but couldn't raise anyone, so I continued on. I remembered that last time I'd ridden the K0 I'd sworn that I'd never wear my open face helmet again, but of course I hadn't taken my own advice, so as punishment I was peppered with suicidal bugs, some dry like little stones, and some quite wet, like sloppy turds. 

After 75 miles or so, I pulled into a "Hungry Jacks" (Aussie "Burger King") and washed the bugs off my face and neck in the bathroom, then chowed down. I gave Steve a call, apparently he'd been down in his cavernous barn at the bottom of his property first time I dropped by and hadn't heard me, so I rode back over there, enjoying the ride, but not so much, once again being spattered with bigger, wetter bugs.

When I pulled into Steve's driveway, the bike "conked out" and refused to start, so I figured I'd leave it for awhile and try again later. It did this once before hand, but fired right up the next day, so I knew it wasn't anything serious. Steve took me for a tour of his collection of bikes and his enormous stash of K0 parts, it was that "kid in a candy store" thing for me, ha ha! Anyway, we yacked for awhile and drank some beer, then after he politely refused a ride on my bike, we decided to see if it'd go again.

It took awhile to fire up, and "conked out" again, then finally started, and we both decided it was a fuel issue, so I gingerly rode off, but it didn't give me anymore trouble on the 25 mile ride home, but then "conked out" in my driveway again. Tomorrow I'll take the tank off and clean out the petcock, and replace the fuel lines. (like Andy suggested when I bought the bike back in March.............)

Apart from that minor issue and of course, the bugs, (I've gotta hide that open face helmet somewhere so that I'll never find it again) the bike ran magnificently. I need to change the exhaust gaskets as they're leaking quite badly, and of course clean out the tank and petcock, and replace one blinker globe, but apart from that, it was a great ride, I did around 125 miles, and Hondaman's ignition seems to be working perfectly, allowing the engine to happily rev to 10,000 RPM on at least one occasion, with no ill effects.

I saw 80 MPH in third gear at one stage, and the bike was very well behaved at that speed, although the rear shocks feel pretty useless, allowing the centre stand to scrape on the left side at only conservative  lean angles. On the plus side, it's getting close to 48 miles per imperial gallon, or 39 miles per US gallon, which I think is pretty good, about what I remember getting from other CB750's over the years. I took some roads I've never seen before, and the scenery was quite beautiful, so next trip I'll take my camera! Cheers, Terry. ;D       

I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Spring has sprung! Terry's first K0 ride today!
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2007, 09:47:54 AM »
  Woohoo! Glad to hear that K0 didn't make it all the way to Australia just to become somebody's Garage Queen ;D ;D ;D

   I've had a few experiences with bikes dying at idle after some spirited riding( a lot of carb fiddlin' this year) so when I read your post the first thing that jumped out at me was the leaky exhaust gaskets. Cylinders heating unevenly at high rpms due to unequal exhaust pressures, then dropping down to rich(lean?) or unbalanced idle mixture and the bike just doesn't want to stay running until things cool a bit.

   Of course, you know how to wrench a bike good as anyone else here and probably have a good handle on where to start seeing as the bike is just a few steps away from where you're reading this (as opposed to the thousands of miles from which I am typing). But I've still got your address, mate, and can have a set of copper rings in the mail lickety-split if it'll help ya get them in any quicker ;) ;D
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2007, 06:13:20 PM »
G'Day Sean, thanks for that mate, that's a great offer, but surprisingly, I've actually got a set here. I was going through all my gaskets trying to find a complete set for my 836 rebuild (almost there now!) and I found a set! I'm torn between getting the 836 engine together today or fixing the exhaust leak, but I think the 836 might win, and I'll do the K0 after work tomorrow. Thanks again mate! Cheers, Terry. ;D   
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Spring has sprung! Terry's first K0 ride today!
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2007, 09:20:34 PM »
(I know CA is pretty good all year round, but I want to see a bit of the US, including places where snow falls in winter, which is no good for this ol' crocodile.........)
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2007, 04:10:04 AM »
Hey thanks Paul! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Spring has sprung! Terry's first K0 ride today!
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2007, 02:14:49 PM »
G'Day Sean, thanks for that mate, that's a great offer, but surprisingly, I've actually got a set here. I was going through all my gaskets trying to find a complete set for my 836 rebuild (almost there now!) and I found a set! I'm torn between getting the 836 engine together today or fixing the exhaust leak, but I think the 836 might win, and I'll do the K0 after work tomorrow. Thanks again mate! Cheers, Terry. ;D   

  I'm doing the same thing over here. After only 18,000 miles the Daily Rider is pissin' so much oil from the head that it's getting a teardown/inspection/rebuild this winter and I'm goin' through all my leftovers for gaskets & seals. Fortunately the Sumbich is running pretty damn good so I can take my time with the Daily Rider :)

   Do you have a good head gasket layin' around for the 836? I've got a decent spare that's been torqued down but never run.

    Enjoy your day of twirlin' wrenches, mate :)
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2007, 04:11:34 PM »
Hey thanks mate, I'll take you up on that offer, I've got one for the engine I'm building now, but I got lucky and won another set of 836 pistons, cylinders, flowed head with big valves etc and monster cam for only $100.00 on EBay, and when that arrives in the next couple of weeks, I'm gonna rebuild the leaky F2 engine with that top end, so I'll need another 836cc head gasket.

I've got a heap of standard head gaskets here, so if you need one for the daily rider (or is that an 836 too, I can't remember?) let me know Sean? Is the daily rider running standard Honda cylinder studs, or heavy duty items? I just fitted those APE studs you sent me last year to the 836 engine, geez they look massive compared to the stockers? I think I'll order another set for the F2 engine from Z1 Enterprises, and another Tsubaki cam chain too. Thanks Sean! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2007, 04:56:35 PM »
   The Daily Rider is the first 836 I put together, the one you did the killer paint job on (complete with aussie bug #$%* in the clear, remember :D :D). I used the APE studs in it and did everything "by the book" so not sure why it blew apart so soon, but I suspect that I may need a better torque wrench, at the least. I borrowed a pricier wrench from a mate when I put the Sumbich together, so far so good(fingers crossed) ;D ;D

   The Sumbich is running great. Joe (joeb on the forums) and I went for a morning romp through the hills today and we ate up the roads pretty good. Joe's got a '78 836 just like me, including a nice ported head with big intake valves and hot cam. The only real difference between our bikes is that he has stocker carbs and I have the CR's. Overall it was a well matched ride for us with Joe pulling far out front through one section of twisties and me becoming a small red dot on the horizon when we hit the straights ;D

   Have a good week, Terry.No worries on the Cometic gasket, I'll put it in next Saturday's mail ;)
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2007, 05:09:52 PM »
Thanks Sean, it'll be interesting to compare my F2 with the 836 kit and similar mods, to the engine I'm building now, but with the F2 carbs as opposed to the 29mm CR's I've got on this engine.

I found that when I had the F2 carbs on my K1 last Christmas (we're almost there again!) the thing howled! I'll have to rebuild them though, I could never get the K1 engine to idle properly with them, compared to with the stock K carbs.

Hey and don't mention that custom "Australian native fauna" paint scheme I did for you mate, everyone will want one and I'll be up to my asss in tanks and side covers with "Dunny Budgies" stuck in the paint! Ha ha, Cheers, Terry. ;D

I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2007, 05:30:20 PM »

Hey and don't mention that custom "Australian native fauna" paint scheme I did for you mate, everyone will want one and I'll be up to my asss in tanks and side covers with "Dunny Budgies" stuck in the paint! Ha ha, Cheers, Terry. ;D


    :D :D  I will also NOT mention that the DB's seem to be the secret ingredient in protecting the paint. I've been everywhere in all kinds of weather on the Daily Rider these past couple years and it still only takes a damp rag to get the tank,sidies, and seatcowl looking fresh out of the box. The geysers spewing forth from the head has kept the rest of the bike well preserved under a coat of oil as well ;) ;D
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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2007, 09:32:55 PM »
That's good to know Sean, that 2 pack paint is expensive as hell, but definately worth it, in my opinion.

Of course, when I'm dying of lung cancer from breathing it I may change my mind, but hey, live for the present, I say! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2008, 06:45:26 PM »
Well on Friday I thought Spring had sprung again, it was warm and sunny for what seems like the first time in months, so I dragged the poor old K0 out and as usual (thanks to Hondamans' ignition) it fired up right away, which was pretty good since I hadn't ridden it (or even charged the battery) since May the 5th.

There was just enough gas in the tank to get me to my local Mobil service station, where I paid $28.00 (about 25.00 US) to fill the tank with 98 octane, I could have used cheaper 92 Octane gas but I'll steal some to fire up my 836CC K1 "Power Kruiser" and my BMW, as they both prefer high octane gas.

I rode out to Steve K0's place, Steve has just put down a concrete floor on his huge garage, so (apart from the fact that it doesn't have much in the way of lighting) it's starting to look very nice indeed. I didn't hang around long because Steve was up to his elbows in car transmission, but we had a yack and he showed me some more of his many K0 "treasures" and I had a great ride, all up I did another 50 miles, and I'm continually surprised by how smooth that K0 engine is, it really is a pleasure to ride.

Once the weather warms up I'll give it a coat of Candy Gold paint and some new decals etc, and it'll look as nice as it goes, it's cold and wet again today, but now I've had a hint of spring, I can't wait for summer! Cheers, Terry. ;D

I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2008, 06:51:22 PM »
Send some of that sunshine over this way can you terry, its been overcast, wet ,cold and today its blowing a bloody gale in adelaide.
So please send some good weather my way :D :D
Good to hear you had a good ride, my old girl is currently in a million pieces spread across the shed floor :'(

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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2008, 11:31:59 PM »
Yeah, it seems to be coming along Tell..Nice ducktail, mate. Where did that come from?  More pics....K
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2008, 03:12:30 AM »
Yeah, it seems to be coming along Tell..Nice ducktail, mate. Where did that come from?  More pics....K

G'Day TC, thanks for that, I've been lucky and since I bought it from Andy Morris last year when it was missing most of the "hard to find" original parts, I've scored the correct OEM forks, caliper, airbox, a better left sidecover, a new R/H switchblock with the correct black kill switch, (courtesy of Andy) correct plastic chain guard, rear shocks etc, and I've also bought some good new repro parts, namely sidecovers and airbox, and that ducktail seat off EBay.

I'm yet to order some Yamiya bits I'd like, (guage covers and dials, reflectors, tank trim etc) but no hurry mate, I'm not looking to make it "museum quality", just a neat daily rider, so I'll just pick them up as I can afford it. Anyway, I don't want to pull it apart for a full resto, it's getting too close to summer to even think about that, ha ha! How's that beautiful Z1 going? ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2008, 02:19:56 AM »
Yeah, the Zed...Stuck spark plug in the head which meant it had to come off have an insert tapped in. All good, as that was an opportunity to replace the valve stem seals, lap the valves and check the bores and shims etc etc.  A new camchain and guides and bits and pieces. The latest hold up is that the carburettor needles are bent so I'm waiting for some NOS replacements to reach me.

Like any project, I know my credit card number and expiry date off by heart and I have a letter from Mastercard sitting on the mantlepiece unopened........All credit to Z1enterprises who can process an order and have it on my front doorstep six days later. That's bloody good service from the USA, it doesn't get any better. Thanks Jeff. Avoid speedsupplies.com they are effing useless.

So the short answer is that I'm pretty much looking forward to getting her on the road. Had her up to 90 MPH and it was still pulling, prior to breaking into the engine so I know that the "bones are good" as they say in the real estate game.

All the parts that come off for re-zincing will be done "half-arsed" and not too shiny as I want the bike to look its age and not over-restored. As I have said before, a renovated bike shouldn't look like some middle-aged bint with silicone titties and a bad eye job, it has to look its age and show a bit of history, including a few cuts and scratches.

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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2008, 02:59:56 AM »
Awwww...you guys had to go and bring up the Z bikes again!!!Ya know I love my 750 and won't part with it but I still have a yearnin' for an old Kawi. Today in the paper is a 900 for $1800 and a 1000 for $700. That doesn't happen very often but it don't matter to me anyhow cause I couldn't afford either one of them at this time. Maybe one of these fine days though....
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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2008, 03:13:41 AM »
So what was the worlds' first superbike. Brough Superior, Vincent Black Shadow, Aerial Square Four, CB750 K0, or Kawasaki Z1...??

Who knows?  and who cares?

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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2008, 04:03:45 AM »
Yep, that's true TC, I had a Z1(E) in the 1980's, had only 8,000 Km on the clock when I got it and original everything, apart from rusted out pipes and another seat. (the PO's pet Cockatoo ate the original seat)

It was a 1975 model and purportedly the best handling 900, but even though I installed Marzocchi rear shocks, Pirelli Phantom tyres, progressive front springs, taper roller steering head bearings, S&W air kit, fork brace and adjustable steering damper, it still handled like a pig?

I sold it and bought my Suzuki GS1000S "Wes Cooley Replica", and saw God at 145 Mph, in a straight line, and I coulda taken one hand off the bars, if I wasn't frightened that I'd get sucked off the back. As much as I loved that Z, it had the original "hinged frame", ha ha! ;D 
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2008, 08:21:23 AM »
I remember that 'hinged frame' bit on the Z1, and we did lose one rider (and broke up another) on those bikes. The swingarm's mounting method was to blame, and as far as I know, no one ever came up with a way to fix it until the KZ1000 Police bikes came along. Not the best combination: 75 HP and bad handling...
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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2008, 11:25:32 AM »
I didn't realize that. I guess I had one of each then....74 900Z1(limp spaghetti) and a 77 1000LTD(hard noodle!!!).......still love those bikes although I'd bet that its alot easier to get parts for the Hondas nowadays.
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« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2008, 06:12:53 PM »
That's all true Fishy, a lot of Honda people don't know that by 1973 the Z1 had decimated the CB750's sales world wide, race success was the stick by which all bikes were measured back then, (and I've no data to suggest much has changed) and Kawasaki was winning everything, so there were a lot more aftermarket Z1 performance parts available than for any other make.

Even though the Suzuki GS bikes were a better "mousetrap", (they blatantly copied the Z1 engine design, but improved it, and made a beautiful frame to install it in) they never had the "Cult Status" of the Z1, and once again, after-market race parts aren't as readily available. I've seen a Z1R MK2 frame alongside a GS1000S frame, and the Kawasaki frame looks like it was designed for a small commuter engine, and not a 1015cc road warrior.

Don't get me wrong, if I see a cheap original Z1 I'll snap it up, but I'll ride it a lot more sedately than my GS1000S. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2008, 05:27:04 AM »
It was the spindly design at the steering head that made it flex the most. It has tubes (with no bracing) butt welded to the steering stem and the whole front part of the frame has very few gussets (swingarm foward) and the frame seamed to be made out of speghetti.
   Heres a pic of the frame, with the added on parts to strengthen the frame shown. This strengthens up the frame alot and makes for a better handling bike.
   When Kawa changed the Z-1 to the KZ in 1976 is when the frame was improved. It was made of a harder speghetti noodle.

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was this a 'kit' for fixing up the Z1 bikes? Interestingly, they essentially made it into a 750 frame up top...
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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2008, 06:00:36 PM »
And those "bracing points" in the diagram will work equally as well on a CB750 too. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)