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American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« on: September 11, 2008, 10:05:35 AM »
Guess that chopper thing really is over:

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/836438572.html


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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2008, 11:01:47 AM »
hm wish i had the extra money for a frame, they had really nice, high quality builds.

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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2008, 11:35:51 AM »
I never got the idea of buying a custom chopper.  Much like the made to order cafe's, they seem to entirely miss the point of having a custom motorcycle in the first place.

Regardless, it's always unfortunate to see a company go under.
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2008, 12:27:39 PM »
Cant say I was surprised. The chopper craze died a couple years ago really and besides that, only the people with more money than brains seem to get them. Plus those people were usually huge #$%*s since they figured they were better than anyone else.

besides, we know what it is like to try and find parts for our bikes, now imagine trying to find one for a custom ride.

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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 12:30:40 PM »
I had heard they were not very well built.
Once news of their closing got out I started
seeing them almost daily on Houston Craigslist.
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 02:02:47 PM »
how can you argue against a 113 cube motor
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 02:47:52 PM »
how can you argue against a 113 cube motor

I think it would be quite easy IMO with any jap 1000/1100 cc engine or a duck 1098 or a triumph speed. I'm sure there are more that a lot of people would prefer over the big twin.
But then I wouldn't want a chopper regardless of the engine it had, but thats just me.
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 05:47:52 AM »
I saw a 100 inch Sportster, last week that ran 200mph.....














without a fairing!.............. ;D
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2008, 10:05:27 AM »
But not around corners.

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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2008, 05:25:06 PM »
yes, any decent metric bike will blow these things into the weeds, but that's not the point.
the chop isn't mine but a friends who is silly enough to let me ride his toys.
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2008, 11:33:35 PM »
Eldar, I think you should start racing against Sportsters and show them who is BOSS!!



 ..make them look real bad, then report back on here..
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2008, 08:34:10 AM »
 
 Unfortunately I believe there's going to be alot more companies going tits up. Some of these companies were only in it for a quick buck. Other businesses run by people who actually really care about motorcycles and riders will probably still be around, companies that were well established before Hugh King  started exploiting motorcycle enthusiasts. Whats next, OCB (Orange County Baggers)

 One thing out of this that would be beneficial is maybe prices will start to drop with companies looking to sell off stock no longer selling.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2008, 10:24:58 AM »
do we need to start this crap again? A sportster is not going to go 200 around corners. Neither a cb from the 70s. In a straight line, sure but not hanging a corner. Fact is, they are not built for that in anyway and without serious mods, and even then, they will not go 200 around corners. But then I am not sure you even go around corners. Maybe you only ride in areas where once you are done going straight, a platform turns you so you can go another direction! :D

If a sportster could go 200 around corners, then maybe we might see one a road race.

there is nothing wrong with a sporty but they are just not made for 200 around a corner. Straight lines a completely different matter.

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2008, 11:03:07 AM »
Our local Indian shop just closed down here in WI. 
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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 11:28:01 AM »
the economy of the nation is not the best and thats going to have a lot of small busness shops closing their doors. i work at for and see so many executives getting fired every day and i know that some thing that they were over paid and i won't argue that i'll only say they took the job for what was being offered to them and add that the pay cuts affect not only the workers but the buisnesses  they ( you ) do buisness with. you have less pay you have less to spend
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2008, 11:53:57 AM »
Things in some areas are pretty crappy, thats for sure. In my area, we have not been affected much. We have but not like a lot of other areas. Of course we get the crappy gas and food prices like everyone else though.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2008, 06:58:53 PM »
Micron exhaust just folded....I guess they didn't make enough Sportster "go around corners" units. :D
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2008, 07:45:16 PM »
Eldar, who said the thread was about cornering??

besides I already mentioned Lucifers Hammer and the BOTT bikes..


Seems  a few Magazine testers dont agree with Eldar :o on the new Sportster sold in Europe....


.. and where is the 200 mph cb750 Eldar?
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2008, 07:50:28 PM »
If Anyone on here has a documented 200mph bike, please tell us about..

A guy from town here took a crack at it last week, came up a bit short.. ran 191mph with his ZX-10
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2008, 08:22:33 PM »
You said you saw a 200mph sportster, I said it was not going around corners. You predicatably have to get you panties in a bunch like you always do. Did I not state that a straight line was different than a corner? Pretty sure I did. I also said that a cb could not corner at 200 either. DO you actually read these posts? It sure does not seem like it.

As for a bike going 200, it happened in minnesota.

http://board.uscho.com/archive/index.php/t-41802.html

If I remember correctly, it was a honda liter bike.

So I just told you about it.

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2008, 08:47:32 PM »
Yeah, I remember that Honda.. bet it wasnt going around a corner!.. .quite a bit of controversy about the speed as I recal..

So, look up Lucifers Hammer daytona... you asked about a Sportster than can be roadraced, so I told you..
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2008, 09:15:20 PM »
not everyone builds their bikes to corner fast..

.. but if you ran against that sporty rider & you were both on sportbikes.. you may be in for a surprise...


 he roadraced for Big D Triumph out of Dallas tears ago, and I believe he ran at Daytona.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2008, 04:58:01 PM »
 That bike was an RC-51 and it isn't capable of those speeds....that cop was full of sh**. Harley was roadacing XR-750's for years....late into the 70"s. I think Jay Springsten was the last one I saw race one at Loudon in 78 or so. They were complete piles at that point but you could get points for the Grand National title in either road or dirt tracking. At least the 250 was still a bit competitive back then.....I guess. ::) Gene Church and Lucifer's was quite a bit later in a new class that catered to that bike. I believe Don Tilly was building the engines and he was a real smart guy which certainly didn't hurt the cause. Anyway the Ducati's blew them out of the water after several years. 754....... riding a Harley is like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer....it only feels good when you stop. :D ;D
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2008, 08:03:37 PM »
Mike, I haven't found the article yet but the bike was not stock. there were some mods, I think NOS might have been one. SO it could probably do 200 with the mods. After all, look at the performance a cb can get with some work ;)


Here is your BS about the sportster.

Motorcycle: Racers - Lucifer's Hammer, 1983
Date: Sunday, October 31 @ 15:26:35 PST
Topic: Motorcycle

Lucifer's Hammer, 1983

In the spring of 1983, Lucifer's Hammer was the first big twin for a decade to carry Harley-Davidson's famous black and orange racing livery on to the Daytona speed bowl. It certainly did so with distinction, taking the great Jay Springsteen — better known as a dirt-track rider but certainly no slouch on tarmac — to victory in the Battle of the Twins event. In October of the same year, Gene Church began a love affair with the same machine when he rode it triumphantly in the BoT finals, also held at Daytona.


The Hammer represented one of those bouts of enthusiasm and expertise with the big twin that were often typical of Harley-Davidson. The germ of the project began when Dave McClure rode a prototype XR1000 street bike at Daytona the previous autumn, which suggested that a full-on racer project might succeed. Once race-boss Dick O'Brien got the go-ahead to build what would become the Springsteen machine, he set his hand-picked team into action. Engine work was put in the hands of Don Habermehl, while racing legend Carroll Resweber (four times AMA champion for Harley, 1958 to 1961) put his considerable talents into the chassis, and Peter Zylstra oversaw the design. To some extent, the machine was also a test-bed and publicity statement for the XR1000 roadster unveiled at the same Daytona meeting, another project which very much carried the O'Brien imprint.

The engine consisted of a modified competition XR750 bottom end and light alloy heads mated to iron Sportster barrels. Twin 42mm smoothbore Mikuni carburettors took care of induction, feeding exotic 110 octane aviation fuel-for nothing less would handle the engine's giddy 10.5:1 compression ratio. To improve combustion, each cylinder boasted twin spark plugs, fired by a total-loss racing ignition system.

In dyno tests, this device had put out a brutal 106bhp at 7,500rpm, but fears about reliability caused Habermehl to impose a rev ceiling of 7,000rpm, at which point the big twin was pumping out 104bhp. Since even this equated to a dizzying mean piston speed of 4,430 ft/min (l,350m/min), the precaution must have been wise. Not only was power prodigious but the spread was enormous, too, coming in strongly by 4,000rpm. A four-speed gearbox was more than adequate. Resweber's chassis employed the very XR750 frame comprehensively crashed by then-AMA champion Mark Brelsford at Daytona fully ten years before the Hammer's 1983 win. The basic single spine and twin tube cradle was heavily reworked with extra gussets and bracing, mated to an all-new box-section swing-arm.

The rest was essentially an Italian affair: front suspension was in the hands of a pair of 1.57in (40mm) Forcelli Italia forks, with twin Fox gas shock absorbers at the rear. Brembo supplied the brakes: twin 11.8in (300mm) floating-front disc brakes, with a 9.8in (250mm) disc at the rear. These ran on Campagnolo magnesium wheels, 16in (406mm) front wheel, 18in (457mm) rear, both shod with Goodyear racing slick tyres. Dry weight was a remarkably lean 2851bs (130kg) and top speed an even more impressive 158mph (254kph).

After its winning Daytona debut, Gene Church went on to take the HOG-sponsored Hammer to three AMA Battle of the Twins titles.

All of this success was not really too bad for a bike that began its life as a ten-year-old scrap!



SPECIFICATIONS

Engine: ohv V-twin

Capacity: 60.9cu in (998cc)

Transmission: 4-speed

Power: 104bhp

Weight: 2861bs (130kg)

Wheelbase: 56in (1,420mm)

Top speed: 158mph (254kph)

As you can see, yes it was a road racer but NO it did not go 200 MPH. When you mean KPH you should say so.

Again you try to sidestep. First you talk about a 200 MPH sportster. You do NOT say what type of racing. I merely said it was not doing it around corners.

THEN you backpedal and try a different route. NEVER did I say HD has never roadraced. Everyone knows they did. But I have never heard of 1 going 200 around a corner.

You list an HD like you are showing an example but it does NOT go 200 MPH.

So what is it? There was a BUELL that succeeded this hd but it is NOT a sportster.

It appears I am still on track here.

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Re: American Iron Horse closing it's doors
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2008, 10:10:48 PM »
I am thinking I read this wrong..


You were actually meaning the Sportster would not take corners at 200 mph? that was not my intent to say that it did.

 but if you know of any bikes doing 200mph while cornering, please tell us more about it..

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