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Honda CB900 Questions.
« on: September 15, 2008, 06:58:15 AM »
I have learned of a Honda CB900C for sale cheep ($200) however it has a problem that could very easily be a deal breaker unless its fixable. From the sounds of it one of the bearings on the connecting rods wore out allowing the con rod to make contact with the block. Now im not exactly sure if it put a hole in the block or not. The question is this...Is this repairable or would i be better off looking for a complete engine to replace the damaged one? Yes i know the bike is a DOHC but its a problem that could easily befall an SOHC as well..
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 08:33:24 AM »
There would be no way to know without a complete teardown and inspection.  Anything is fixable with enough parts and time.
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 08:34:16 AM »
Any Honda that takes a rod bearing will need as a minimum:-
Crank
Rod
Shells
gaskets etc

So to be honest a different motor would be the easiest way to go
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 02:01:54 PM »
But it's a ten speed!  Worth it.
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 03:51:35 PM »
But it's a ten speed!  Worth it.

Thats how im looking at it..I do have access to a Honda CB1000 engine but im not sure if it was from a CB1000C or not. If it was that would make life a heck of a lot easier...Does anyone know if many parts interchange between the CB900 and the CB1000?
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 07:12:18 AM »
The top end should be the same but I think the 1000 had a different trans and maybe was chain drive, not shaft. I don't know if it would bolt into the 900 frame, due to the lack of sub-transmission. CB900s are very nice bikes and they are worth some money too. I've been looking for one for some time and even the non-running ones go for a grand around here. :'(
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 09:44:08 AM »
I have found out there is a one year only CB1000C with the same sub trans as the CB900..I gotta check out the spare engine we got in the shop because there is a CB1000 engine there..though i dont know if it is a C...
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 10:02:31 AM »
You might check into the swingarm requirements for the CB1000 engine to final drive.

A buddy of mine here at work is on his 3rd CB1000 rebuild (all in the last couple years) and is quite familiar with the differences betweent the two bikes.  He says that most everything is interchangable, but he remembers something wierd with the swingarm between the two.  Best bet is to use Service Honda or other resourse to compare part numbers.

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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 05:29:43 PM »
I have learned of a Honda CB900C for sale cheep ($200) however it has a problem that could very easily be a deal breaker unless its fixable. From the sounds of it one of the bearings on the connecting rods wore out allowing the con rod to make contact with the block. Now im not exactly sure if it put a hole in the block or not. The question is this...Is this repairable or would i be better off looking for a complete engine to replace the damaged one? Yes i know the bike is a DOHC but its a problem that could easily befall an SOHC as well..

Here is a sad fact about Japanese motorcycles.  They are rarely worth fixing if they have a serious problem.  Even if you don't pay much up front (even free), by the time you have it going you could just as well found another one in sound condition for less than you have in the repaired one.
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 07:20:13 PM »
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Here is a sad fact about Japanese motorcycles.  They are rarely worth fixing if they have a serious problem.  Even if you don't pay much up front (even free), by the time you have it going you could just as well found another one in sound condition for less than you have in the repaired one.
And yet here we all are rebuilding and restoring 30+ year old bikes that cost more to fix now than the sold for new. Kind of makes you wonder about our motives, don't it? ???
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 09:36:57 PM »
[And yet here we all are rebuilding and restoring 30+ year old bikes that cost more to fix now than the sold for new. Kind of makes you wonder about our motives, don't it? ???

I understand your point, but I'm not talking about the same thing.  Darkrider has a line on a bike that apparently the conrod is hammering the case.  Lots of expensive damage is likely.   If he want a CB900, there are still decent ones around that have sound engines that would likely cost less than repairing the one he is looking at. 
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 08:38:13 AM »
I wasn't talking about the 900 either, I was suggesting that your statement about jap bikes might not apply to the SOHC4s we all hold dear or that there are some jap bikes where cost isn't the only determining factor for repair.

For the 900 in question I would look at the cost to repair versus what the bike would sell for when repaired. A good running 900 Custom in my area is worth $2000-2500 unless it has a Hondaline fairing and luggage. I have seen dressed 900s go for up to $3600. If the bike could be bought as-is for $400 and an engine for another $400 (Two Wheel Heaven, a nearby yard has 2 of them for $325 each) You would have $800 invested. Let's say the engine can be changed in 10 hours (more likely 4-6 if you are skilled) and your labor is worth $40 per hour then your labor cost would be another $400 for a grand total investment of $1200. That gives you an $800 clear profit if you sold at $2000, and a $1300 clear profit at $2500. That's a possible return on investment of 60% to 100% after you get paid $40/hr to fix the bike. It's a gamble, for sure but it's a gamble I would take.
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Re: Honda CB900 Questions.
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2008, 12:20:17 PM »
The 1000C and 900C are both shaft drive and will interchange.

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