Topic: Helmets, Again!

[Caaveman82]

    I wouldn't mind. I only wear a full face. I don't buy the argument that a full face is too hot because mine is all black and it's probably the cheapest POS helmet HJC makes and those little air vents are plenty for me.

    Like I said, my tax dollars are already being thrown away on a meaningless war, a department of education that doesn't work, and re-phaulting the same road on my street every year. I don't need to add uninsured motorcyclists to that list. You want to be an organ donar fine, don't expect me to pay for it, and until you have the situation under control or worked out so that if you become one we the tax payers are not the ones picking up the bill don't expect me to take your side on not wearing a helmet.

    I'm all about freedom and keeping big brother as far away from making every day decisions in my life, but until everyone can become responsible for themselves he's going to keep sticking his nose in your business...

[medic09]

And here I thought to myself when I started this 'Self, you're just going to present the interesting latest findings.  No opinions or advice from you.  That'll avoid trouble, and folks might just find this interesting."  Sort of like saying, "I'll just throw this grenade into that room..." 

[Caaveman82]

Haha, let's move on to something lighter shall we? How about abortion?! Any takers? No? ....

[Operator]

Realistically it is a non issue, I live in Canada, I don't have a choice as to whether or not I wear a helmet...I have to. The only places helmets are not required is when we are at a Rally and you are inside the grounds. And where I live, the cops randomly stop people to check if their helmets are CSA (Canadian Safety Association) approved. If not, you lose your helmet on the spot, and you get a $300.00 fine. Good luck finding a taxi on the side of the highway......

[333]

And here I thought to myself when I started this 'Self, you're just going to present the interesting latest findings.  No opinions or advice from you.  That'll avoid trouble, and folks might just find this interesting."  Sort of like saying, "I'll just throw this grenade into that room..." 

We could start an oil thread.  Or combine the two.  "What kind of oil should I use on my helmet?"

How many of the PRO HELMET  folks out there would be happy to be told they were REQUIRED to wear a full face rather than their comfy Sunday afternoon half helmet???

Just how many "Pro Helmet" folks do you think wear anything but a full face helmet?

[BobbyR]

From a bicycle accident I found out a long time ago, the pavement is harder than your head. That is all I need to know.

I also found the pavement is harder than your face. Road rash hurts like hell on the face and chicks don't dig it either.

[DammitDan]

I also found the pavement is harder than your face. Road rash hurts like hell on the face and chicks don't dig it either.

Only if she's not into that kinda stuff 

[Caaveman82]

If she is, it's probably cause she has it too!

[tramp]

i wonder who pays the hospital bill for all the rework that those free people rack up for not wearing a helmet
seatbelts are mandatory

[Rocking-M]

Gear from deer incident. Helmet scuffed all the way round.

[Rocking-M]

jacket pretty good after the slide



one wear through but ce armor in the shoulders fine



seams did seperate behind the shoulder

[medic09]

I am glad and grateful you were WEARING that gear!

[SD750F]

My response to anyone who goes down the "My Choice" line with helmets is...

I respect your choice, as long as I get to have the choice too! The choice to tell my health insurance that NONE of my premiums will go to pay for traumatic brain injury care, and that not a penny of my taxes paid will do the same. That should be my choice too...


Scott

[Stixxy]

I wear a fullface, leather jacket, bike jeans, elbow pads, knee pads and armoured boots. The thought of my 7 year old son with no dad scares the crap out of me. I just try to protect myself, be vigilant and be as visible as possible.

If others want to not wear a helmet (which is illegal here) and wear tee shirts, shorts and sneekers, that's their choice. It's not my job to protect others from their own stupidity.

[DarkRider]

Im going to throw into this thing now...I was holding off and paitently waiting for this thread to die a slow death due to everyone saying what they needed to say in it. Those of you who know what i do can imagine what i see on some shifts...for those of you that do not...i work for a security company and im posted in the hospital E.R. . Now to get to my point....and i know im gonna offend with this....For those of you who support riding without a lid at any time....YOU ARE ALL GODDAMN IDIOTS!!! Wear your gear all the goddamn time!!...Heres a choice for you...Be uncomfortable wearing a helmet and armor....or be prepared to have someone else choose your suit for the funeral when you screw up.

Im sorry for being harsh like this today...normally im not this vocal about something but i seen something last night that made me think twice about being on two wheels....A kid my age was killed as an end result of a confrontation between his Harley and an 18 wheeler...He was not wearing a helmet...The last memory a lot of the staff in the ER has of him last night was him being covered in so much life support gear all that hinted was human was the fact there was a heavily bandaged head between support blocks...Do not start thinking oh he was a harley rider so he deserved it....ANY OF US COULD BE TAKEN OUT LIKE THAT!!! I would rather hedge my bets of survival by having a lid between my skull and what ever i hit....

[fuzzybutt]

i wear a half helmet myself, but only because i get kind of claustorphobic in my full face one. i ALWAYS wear my armor jacket amd good boots though, not like alot of the sport bike rider-morons around here that i see in shorts, tee shirt or tank top and flipflops on motorcycles with enough horsepower to change the weather.

[heffay]

motorcycles with enough horsepower to change the weather.

awesome!  yes, please.

[fuzzybutt]

i got that expresssion from an old Hunter S Thompson book.. the great shark hunt possibly

[Hush]

Its compulsory here in Godzone (NZ) but even if it wasn't I'd wear mine.
I prefer a flip face just cos the normal bell helmet makes me claustraphobic and I like to flip the face bit up as soon as I get off a bike, fresh air freak.
My work mate put his Harley into a car that U turned on him coming to work one night, he was travelling at 100kph+ and only got his foot mangled (still walks with a limp and probabaly always will but still rides) his helmet bounced on the car but he stayed upright.
Ambulance guys couldn't believe he survived with such little damage, not a mark on his bike!!!
Helmets.......not a hard choice is it?
Even my Jaffa wears an open face on her plastic Chinese scooter so why not hardened riders?
There is not a bikie (all gangs included) in NZ who does not wear one, they might have those silly chrome German style ones or those half a walnutshell Harley part lids but they still all wear them.

[DarkRider]

Ok...in hindsight...that last post of mine...yea...just a lil on the harsh side...sorry guys...

[Operator]

Darkrider, I am sure we are all adults and in time....we'll get over it!!! You make a good argument for helmets, personally I don't ride without my gear, but I do only wear a half helmet, simply because I find a fullface distracting as I do not feel as aware of everything going on around me. That is a risk I choose to take. The other risk I choose to take is riding a motorcycle in the first place.

In my opinion, the final word is that we have to live with the choices we make and in reality, a horrific crash with bad results would do a lot more damage to my wife and children than it would ever do to the medical system.

That's it.....my rant is over!!!

Now I'm going to ride my 750 K3 home. 3 km's away and I will be wearing my CSA approved helmet, gloves, boots and Joe Rocket ballistic jacket.

Ride Safe, Ride On

Operator

[tom8Toe]

seatbelts are mandatory

Not in New Hampshire unless you're under 18. No helmet law either. The fools kill themselves off quickly. Gotta love natural selection. 

Well you know what they say in NH... "Live free or die" 

I myself beleive ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time).

[Caaveman82]

Ok...in hindsight...that last post of mine...yea...just a lil on the harsh side...sorry guys...

No way man. I'm with you 100%. Choice, choice, choice. We don't live in a democracy (speaking for those of us in America), so why should we have the choice? I can list off a hundred and one stupid laws, but they are there because some idiot ruined it for everyone else. I am all about freedom, but if your choice infringes on my ability to make choices then screw your choice. You become a veggie because you "chose" not to wear a helmet and your laying in a hospital with no insurance and my tax dollars are keeping your lungs going, guess what? You just took money out of my pocket, which in turn takes away from my Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness. Argue that how ever you want, it boils down your an idiot and I, a helmet user, has to pay for it. No thanks man. No sympathy, pull the plug.

[Rocking-M]

Ok...in hindsight...that last post of mine...yea...just a lil on the harsh side...sorry guys...

No way man. I'm with you 100%. Choice, choice, choice. We don't live in a democracy (speaking for those of us in America), so why should we have the choice? I can list off a hundred and one stupid laws, but they are there because some idiot ruined it for everyone else. I am all about freedom, but if your choice infringes on my ability to make choices then screw your choice. You become a veggie because you "chose" not to wear a helmet and your laying in a hospital with no insurance and my tax dollars are keeping your lungs going, guess what? You just took money out of my pocket, which in turn takes away from my Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness. Argue that how ever you want, it boils down your an idiot and I, a helmet user, has to pay for it. No thanks man. No sympathy, pull the plug.

Are you old enough to have a 401(k)? Has your job been outsourced or are you laid off because of the poor choices of executives in the auto industry or the banking sector? I suppose you want to shoot them next because they took(are taking) your money also? If money is what your "right to happiness" hinges upon, you'll find plenty of people to blame.  You want to pull the plug on the handicapped who get assistance from your state or federal government, too? How about the elderly? Cap them, too? Where does it end? 1939 all over again. Our democracy that you dismiss so readily is what allows you to blather on without the Black Shirts coming to stifle you. You haven't seen REAL oppression obviously, or you wouldn't speak as you do. I resent you saying you are speaking for me as an American, because you aren't.

John, we're so far from the intentions of the founding fathers it ain't even worth discussing; we as Citizens don't enjoy the government they envisioned and set up.
Nope, that ideal has been so thoroughly messed over that it's beyond repair. Chickens are coming home to roost. By the way, democracy was never what they intended, it is to be a representative REPUBLIC. I hope some of the secession movements popping up, such as in the New England States, are successful. 
This has a bit to do with helmet laws, I've always worn one and will, but should it be law, I don't think so. I'm all for freedom and don't think the government is here
to support us, protect us, or instruct us.

[eldar]

caave, everything someone does affects someone else, no matter what it is. Given your line of logic, a bike should be banned because as we all know, you can get just as hurt wearing all the gear you can get. Using your logic, you still made the CHOICE to get on a 2 wheeled machine that is MUCH more dangerous than a car. Lets take it further. Hunting a dangerous activity. You can accidentally shoot yourself or someone which can incur medical charges hoisted on the public.
CRAP! We can all get mashed up in cars too!!! HOLY $H!T!!!! OMG! I can get hurt WALKING!!! AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
See where this goes? And it ALL follows your line of logic.  The true mark of a society is how its people care for each other.
NOT how much money people have.