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Offline Hinz

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750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« on: September 24, 2008, 09:25:27 PM »
Has anyone ever taken a super sport tank, removed the hatch and replaced with a different filler neck?  I KNOW I've seen a site where somebody started doing it but I can't remember where.  My eyes are sore from the 3 days of searching.
I'm in the process of building a cafe and I'm thinking of taking a F tank, welding up a basic filler off to the side and then making a leather strap to hold the tank down.

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Re: 750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 03:40:36 AM »
It could be done for sure.
Depending on who you talk to it would be either easy or bloody hard, but either way it would be damned expensive.....
To do it yourself you would have to be VERY confident in your welding skills and have a few pretty good metalworking skills, thin metal+compound curves+heat= a lot of work to get right.

Never done that myself, and though i have the confidence in my welding i dont have a lot of experience with the thinner gauge material (most of the stuff i do at work is 1.6mm min.)

You have to remember that the weld has to be perfect or you will have fuel leaking through ANY pinhole and destroying your paint and if bad running down onto your hot motor.

I`m not saying dont do it but i am saying be careful, fuel tanks can explode if not treated carefully when your using a welder.
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Re: 750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 04:40:30 AM »
It can be done. And I think it could look pretty cool if done right. Like troppo says, though, just be careful in your welding to get everything sealed up without warping the metal.
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Offline Hinz

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Re: 750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 05:56:17 AM »
good points.  I'm not that confident in my welding skills or equipment but I do have a few friends that are.  I can at least do the mock-up and let them take care of the hard part.  Now....all I need to do is cut up the tank without blowing myself up.  ;)
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Re: 750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 06:08:36 AM »
good points.  I'm not that confident in my welding skills or equipment but I do have a few friends that are.  I can at least do the mock-up and let them take care of the hard part.  Now....all I need to do is cut up the tank without blowing myself up.  ;)
OK first up wash out the tank with plenty of warm (hot is better ) water, follow with an acetone wash straight away and then leave it in the sun or a warm spot for a while (helps everything evaporate out of the tank).
to be safe start your car and connect some hose to the exhaust pipe, put the hose into the tank through the filler neck and let it run for 5 or 10 minutes. Your tank is now about 95% bang proof, you`ll never make it 100% once its had fuel in it for any time.
Theres a quick and easy method that does the same thing, but theses about a 30% chance you`ll distort your tank. Take a length of wood or metal, fiw a short length of coat-hanger wire to the end, wrap some toilet paper around the wire and light it. Insert the burningg paper into the tank and pray it doesnt distort when it goes WHOOSHBANG

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Re: 750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 06:10:55 AM »
yehhhh...WHOOSHBANG is bad.  :D
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Offline dp2275

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Re: 750F gas tank filler relocation mod?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 09:01:30 AM »
i just finished doing something kinda like this.  ive got a k4 and i didnt like the "latched" gas cap.  i wanted more of a classic look, and while id really like a side fill, i settled on keeping the stock fill location but lengthing the spout a bit. 

what i did was dump the fuel out and let it sit for the day.  then i stuck an air compressor in the spout and blew the tank out for about 5 minutes.  next i threw a lit peice of paper in the tank and itll burn for a bit while it uses all the oxygen in the tank.

after all that, the stock latch and assocaited brackets were cut from the tank.  then i sanded where i was welding and it just happens that the harley bung i was using was the same size as the stock spout..i butted one to the other and TIG'ed around it.  the metal is thinner than i thought..ive got a high frequency inverter tig and i ended up using a very thin tunsten and a max amperage of about 30amps.  i was still burning little holes so i turned the frequency down and "pulse" welded.  the main thing here is that butt welding sheetmetal is pretty damn hard unless you have a sheet of copper you can use for backing.

all in all, it came out just like i planned.  now ive got a 2" tall spout with a simple, round 53-76 harley spin on cap powdercoated black!  its hard to tell much, but heres a quick picture after i finished welding.




PS, if youve got the welding skill to do it; id cut the stock latch out, use a pnumatic flanging tool and put a flange around the hole, throw a peice of sheetmetal on and weld away.  that would prevent any buttwelding and definently cut back on any chance of burn through.