Author Topic: rustoleum paint job (Read 16403 times)

andy8190 · « **on:** September 30, 2008, 02:27:08 PM »

ok so i let the first coat of rustoleum dry over night and wet sanded it down, then i rinsed off with water and applied a new coat, well that coat started cracking and looked scaley, is that because i didnt let it dry long enough after rinsing?

WFO · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2008, 02:45:39 PM »

Try spraying lighter coats each pass let it dry a few seconds and apply another light coat let it dry a few seconds you may be putting it on to thick.

andy8190 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2008, 02:56:35 PM »

ok, thanks, i will just let that one dry and sand it down some and will try lighter coats from here on out.

Steve F · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2008, 06:06:44 PM »

Some Rust-o-leum paints require that you either A) let it dry completely between coats, which could take several DAYS, or B)apply several light coats with just a few minutes between coats to allow it to "tack" slightly, and apply a heavy coat as the final.
I think that what happened with your experience is that the paint just below the so-called dry top surface wasn't dry, and when the solvents from the subsequent layers of paint were applied, it attacked the soft paint beneath which allowed the "dry" paint to raise and lift off.
I've alway had good luck with the stuff, and was able to totally paint an object in one step using several light coats and a heavy final coat with just a few minutes to a half hour between coats. Unless you get a run, you have to let it completely dry so you can sand it out and try again.
Another thing is to let it dry for a week or more before handling, if you can wait that long.

Bodain · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2008, 07:45:13 PM »

Quote from: andy8190 on September 30, 2008, 02:27:08 PM

ok so i let the first coat of rustoleum dry over night and wet sanded it down, then i rinsed off with water and applied a new coat, well that coat started cracking and looked scaley, is that because i didnt let it dry long enough after rinsing?

I've been playing with applying rustoleum with a roller and brush. Thus far I'm amazed at the results. I may never spray paint again. The key is to get it thinned exactly right, such that it self levels. Once you get it thinnned correctly and the paint flows right. You could apply it with a stick, and the end result will look like spray.

andy8190 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2008, 08:49:25 PM »

hmmm i may do the tank that way, how much did you thin it would you say? you also have more color options with it in a can i noticed

Bodain · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2008, 12:58:17 PM »

I can't really tell you how much to thin it. It's just somthing your have to find for yourself.
With this process I actually use a dense foam type of brush. I suppose a regular brush will work equally well. You apply the paint and there may indeed be unevenness in the paint. Within 60 seconds the paint will start to self level, leaving a glass finish that looks like it was sprayed. Too thick and it doesn't level. Too thin and it runs everywhere.

Bodain · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2008, 02:42:09 PM »

This is the tank I painted with a roller and foam brush using Rustoleum gloss black. I smile abit everytime I look at it. This was just a test to see how it would come out. I didn't even bother removing dents. No waxing, no buffing, just raw gloss paint.

WFO · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2008, 02:57:42 PM »

Amazing...

andy8190 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2008, 06:08:13 PM »

i agree.

mikethejeepguy · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2008, 09:56:34 PM »

That IS amazing.... I found that POR15 does the same. It is really good at self leveling. For the other issue, also humidity and ambient temperature will play a role. The colder the weather, the longer the curing time. Which means that at a lower temp, even if you follow the instructions, you may end up applying it too soon and too heavy for the coat to adhere to the previous. Just an idea.

andy8190 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2008, 10:02:47 PM »

yeah i thought about sticking the side covers in the oven at like 150 or 180 for a while. might do that when i have the day off. yeah i hear great things about por-15 but i dont think that would work for the side covers and i didnt want two different colors. im having some bike starting issues. one day it will kick start one day it wont, one hour it will kick start the next it wont. haha frustrating. i am buying a trickle charger tomorrow though. seems like a good investment

andy8190 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:04:28 AM »

due to my retarded assumptions i will be needing some new side covers for a 74 550 four. if anyone has any or knows a good website to buy some let me know please. they dont have to be painted. also i ordered a petcock off of ebay and the guy hasnt shipped it yet so anyone know a website to get one that wont jack me on shipping cost.

mikethejeepguy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:23:20 AM »

Hey! I would suggest POR-15 for the frame or metal parts only... I have never used it on plastic, but it keeps the frame of my Jeep scratch free from rocks and stuff when I take it out to play so flying stones should be child's play on a bike frame for the stuff. From what I hear, side covers are not easy to come by but maybe someone here has a source. For the petcock, I was also looking for a new one and was ready to pay $50 plus an adjuster nut at $15 plus shipping, and then found that my local Honda dealer had it complete for $40. Sometimes it's good to check with them first... If need be I have some links to online vendors I'm sure from my search. And electrical... well... sigh... that is an issue with these bikes. TONS of posts. Sometimes the problem is as simple as the wrong bulbs being installed by a previous owner. OH for painting, also a heat gun sometimes helps with curing time if used from a distance. Gotta be careful though or the paint will boil and bubble OR the heat gun may end up blowing dust and debris at the wet paint. I sometimes heat the inside of the part with it instead... at a good distance.

andy8190 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:26:56 AM »

i found some side covers on this denniskirk website. i am gonna order them today, they are 33 a piece. not to bad. by the way mikethejeepguy my girlfriend live in toronto, she was living in oakville but recently moved to down town. i got a petcock for 49 and shipping was 8 but they have yet to ship it so i am looking for another and if i find it im telling them to cancel my order bc they are taking too long.

andy8190 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 02, 2008, 12:26:01 PM »

i was able to find a left side cover but not a right one, anyone out there have a place to buy one for a 1974

Johnny5 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 02, 2008, 12:51:24 PM »

andy8190 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2008, 12:52:26 PM »

ebay doesnt have any right now it seems. just left side or a different year

Johnny5 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 02, 2008, 12:58:19 PM »

Keep checking. It'll turn up.

Also, call around some local salvage yards. They'll want your leg nut for the side cover though. At least the yards around here do.

Post something on the "Parts Wanted" section.

Be patient. One will turn up.

andy8190 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:04:42 PM »

yeah i posted on wanted. i also placed an order on denniskirk.com. i got a left side cover but the right side cover are on backorder maybe one will come available soon.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:20:56 PM »

Lots of people here saying good things about LPM Motorcycle Plastics in the UK. Here's a link to their eBay store:

http://stores.ebay.com/L-P-M-Plastic-Motorcycle-Parts

They say that they have panels for just about anything, may want to email them if they don't have what you need listed at the moment.

I've never bought from them but I intend to get some 750K0 panels from them soon.

mystic_1

andy8190 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:40:06 PM »

thanks again mystic 1 you sure do help me out a good bit haha

mystic_1 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:48:01 PM »

Glad to help when I can, the more of these old girls on the road the better IMHO. I've benefited a lot from others' posts on this site, least I can do is try to give back a little.

cheers
mystic_1

Sporkfly · « **Reply #23 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:12:58 PM »

Have fun finding the right cover.

I know I have been having loads of fun finding it

cadaver · « **Reply #24 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:22:07 PM »

I'm thinking about this rustoleum thing....weather is starting to go to crap though.. and today i went to a autobody and paint shop today just to see how much they would spray my tank and covers, IF i could find some. hey said around 500$

. is that crazy or is that how much it would really cost me ? so this hole rustoleum stuff i may do ..but did you guys use a gun or the can ... I guess some just used a brush ...what would be best ?

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