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Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« on: October 29, 2008, 07:02:03 AM »
clutch has been slipping, now it is slipping badly... i can break it free pretty much in any gear... not sure if i should even make another run up the mountain to work in it for fear of it finally giving up.


is it like replacing clutch plates in a bike?  or are they constructed entirely differently?
i know it won't be as simple as the 1,2,3 of the CBs. 
am i really looking at $500+ if someone does it for me?
270k on the truck and only paid 300 dollars makes me not want to put much money in.


any advice would be great!  thanks in advance.
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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 07:17:31 AM »
Not knowing what year/engine in your trooper I couldn't tell you how much it should cost but doing the job isn't that hard. The parts store will sell you a clutch kit which comes with everything needed to fix it and all you have to do is have the flywheel resurfaced and bolt the new parts on. Removing the tranny/transfer case sucks but it's not difficult, just clumsy and time consuming. Clutch kits usually cost around $120 and the flywheel resurfacing is another $60 or so. At 270K I wouldn't replace the clutch unless the engine and driveline are in real good shape. I would hate to go to all that trouble just to have the engine or diff or t-case give out a month from now.
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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 07:30:14 AM »
At a glance it's hard to justify putting a new clutch in a vehicle you paid so little for......but think of the replacement value of the vehicle.

Another drivable trooper would surely cost more than the $300 steal you got in the first place so I say it's worth it.

.......And Heffay  ???      I thought you'd know by now that we need a little more info than that. Like year/engine/drivetrain layout (logitudnal like a truck, or transverse like a Front Wheel drive car?      ;D ;D ;D

All in all, a clutch job isn't that hard.....but the parts are much heavier than on our bikes. Unlike our bikes, there is only one friction plate and two 'metal' plates. The friction plate is attached to the transmission via a splined shaft and the two metal plates are the flywheel and the pressure plate. That pretty much sums up automotive style clutches.

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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2008, 07:31:35 AM »
its a 94 running the sohc 3.2v6

that is the issue i have as well... parts are old on this beast, its taken me 12,000 hard mountain miles since i got it from my stepmom in january but who knows how much further it really wants to go.

just like my parents opted not to get a top end / valve job done on it for fear of killing the bottom end... i'm wishy washy on whether it can handle new parts... its handled 270K just fine though!  at some point you have to stop discrediting it for its incredible amount of miles and start commending it.   ;D
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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 07:35:01 AM »
Like year/engine/drivetrain layout (logitudnal like a truck, or transverse like a Front Wheel drive car?      ;D ;D ;D


don't you mean like a tree?   ;D ;D ;D

yea, the driveline runs down the center of the truck, to the rear... auto locking hubs on the front.  other than that, i'm not much help... i don't especially like working on cages therefore, i don't have much experience or know how.

put a manual in front of me and i could get the job done though... w/ some more muscles and jackstands.   ;)
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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 07:45:48 AM »
 :D :D ...tree.

Yeah, so it's build like my brothers pathfinder. We pulled the engine a while back on his to do and engine job, which is probably easier than dropping the transmission out.

Although I've never worked on a trooper, I bet the underside is pretty tight.

I just pulled this off the net: http://www.clutchcityonline.com/products/09-021.shtml

..clutch kit for about $270, but I bet you can find it cheaper.

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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 08:50:51 AM »

put a manual in front of me and i could get the job done though... w/ some more muscles and jackstands.   ;)

I can send a snap of the pertinent pages if you want.... kinda big to post.


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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 09:07:58 AM »
that'd be awesome... i have a big inbox and fast internet so no worries on this end.
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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 09:59:16 AM »
Done.

Good luck.

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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 11:11:24 AM »
Another option is to lurk around a trooper forum ;)

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Re: Clutch is fried in my trooper and i don't know cages
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 11:13:06 AM »
they suck with responses in the single digits for months and months... we are the only decent forum on the internets!
Today: '73 cb350f, '96 Ducati 900 Supersport
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